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Monterey County deputies probe shooting of sex offender

Monterey County sheriff’s deputies grappled with a mysterious double homicide followed by the shooting of a convicted sex offender late Sunday and early Monday.

Around 10:30 a.m. Monday, sheriff’s deputies and Salinas police officers found convicted rapist Donald Crisp, 58, seriously wounded by gunshots near the address listed as his residence on the state’s registered sex offender website. Full Article

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This is a tragedy! No one had to die or to be hurt in any way. The fact that anyone can be denied mental health counseling is also a tragedy which may have led to the murder of two people as well as to serious injury to a third person. This must be stopped! Mental health services need to be provided to those who require them regardless of their label as a “sex offender”. I mourn today for those who have died as well as those who continue to be harmed due to their labeling as a sex offender.

I know it sounds almost impossible to accomplish, but I wish you (Janice) and/or others in CA and even in other states could file for a TRO against the public online registry and get it shut down. It seems like these vigilante killings of registrants are escalating lately. In my opinion, public registries are tantamount to online hit lists! Before Nicole Para and Governor Terminator made the registry public online in 2004, CA seemed to have a good system of checks and balances of having to go to the police station and give your ID, etc. It made attacks like… Read more »

Wow! But quite the misguided story. Newspapers being what they are, that could be because it was too rushed to be better. But inthe eh4adline, ir purports to be about the killing of a sex offender folowing to othere killingns. But the story simoply mentioned the two other killingns int heelade, but then went on and on and on about all the sex offense background about this guy. Only at the very end does it finnaly mention the other two shooting deaths. What the faeld to talk about here was whether this was a possible drive byshooting, maybe a gang… Read more »

How many have to die to get people to wake up and see what’s happening in their own country?

Wow, another person dead because of their Sex Offender Status. I mean, if Detectives aren’t putting two and two together, they are retarded. There is no doubt this man committed a crime, but he paid his debt to society and was obviously viciously gunned down! THis is getting serious. How many times does this have to happen? I mean, this isn’t funny. I think its a great reason why we need a Tiered System here in Ca.

I have to disagree…this is not a great reason for a tiered registry, this is a great reason for the public registry to be removed permanently!

Absolutely right td777. This guy could easily have been in a tiered registry system and have this happen. This actually is reason for no public notice of registrations. But event hat is not enough — someone who has completed probation or parole, which is supposed to be the test of rehabilitation, should not have to face registry at all — since the already have shown rehabilitation! Besides, other than the 1% of the worst SOs, SOs actually have a lower recidivism rater than other criminals — yet, other criminals don’t have to register. But USA, I also point out again,… Read more »

I don’t know that a tiered system would have prevented this tragedy. Any time someone’s name and personal information and criminal history are made available to the general public, vigilante behavior will follow. California stopped allowing its citizens to get other drivers’ vehicle registration/addresses several decades ago, after someone obtained a celebrity’s address via the DMV and attacked her. Apparently our priorities are ass-backwards. I think that letters should be written, as were in the wake of the South Carolina murders, requesting private information be removed from the public registry — this is a public safety measure necessary to curtail… Read more »

You are right Virginia, the real threat to registrants is taking away their privacy and protection. To expose them publicly is a far greater crime against their civil rights than restricting them from certain places.

There is an update in this case. The “sex offender” has died from his wounds. We have lost another human being in this tragedy. It is all so senseless and preventable.

What a tragedy that this guy sought help and it was refused. We don’t know why, but somehow a turn of events led to this guy being shot to death.
The other tragedy is the headline of this story, clearly designed to sell papers, get eyeballs on the page and adverts.

I hope everyone contacts Julia “Scoop” Reynolds at 648-1187 or jreynolds@montereyherald.com and gives their opinion of her reporting style.

I note, the writer of this story did NOT write the headline — a copy editor did. As for the story itself, as I noted above, it is very likely it had to be written is a dramatic rush at the last minute — that is the nature of late breaking news in a daily newspaper, so you have to give a little bit of leeway for that.

We need to start posting on other countries sites telling our stories. They can’t convience me that my decade old misdemeanor should subject me to 25 years of unemployment and public shaming! They use public shaming maybe we should also! Minors lives on the registry being destroyed! Maybe these senseless murders need to have us leaving comments on countries more concerned about the truth! The Internet is world wide!

If you were convicted of a misdemeanor more than 10 years ago, you may be eligible to apply for a certificate of rehabilitation (CoR). If granted, the CoR will take you off of the registry. For more information, got to the Frequently Asked Questions or contact me directly.

That is true. However, the investigation for it can be more destruction to a misdemeanant than even the registration itself, as neighbors will be informed and questioned, employers will be informed and questioned — and there goes any good recommendation — their home will be searched. And it costs a lot of money to hire a lawyer to handle this, not to mention others who will have to be paid, such as a psychiatrist to give an evaluation. All because of an ancient misdemeanor that should not face registration in the first place as it is classified as a minor… Read more »

The other two killings happened too far away for it to be connected. I hate to say it, but it seems this unfortunate soul was targeted. It looks like he made a very, very, very bad mistake over 20 years ago. But the fact that he was seeking help from mental health stands as a testimony to his willingness and desire to seek help. As I’ve said before, we need rehabilitation, not incarceration. Prevention, NOT more detention! A parent may give the child a swift swat on the behind for misbehaving, but its the stern talk that comes afterward that… Read more »

I’m doubtful the the vigilanty killings and crimes against SO’s will stop. The general public’s perception is that all SO’s are horrid child molesters, rapists and animal sodomizers and should die! Thanks to politicians, news media and law enforcement for putting out false and misleading statistics showing how evil and likely SO’s are to reoffend. Facts won’t bring in federal grant money to law enforcement, facts won’t get politicians re-elected, facts don’t sell newspapers; as long as there is fear mongering by select groups, we’d better all watch each other’s backs. Killing a RSO is considered a “righteous” killing.

Its hard to dodge bullets but always know where you are, who you’re with and where you’re going. Don’t open the door unless its someone you know and someone you’re expecting. If possible, get a dog (or several!) for protection. (i.e. German Shepherds are known for their intelligence, loyalty and security. Most attackers wouldn’t want to mess with you if they know you have one in your home. Other good protection breeds are dobermans, rottweilers, chow chow’s…etc…) Also, if at all possible, keep a cell phone on you at all times so you can call for help. If you own… Read more »

Janice, what mch says here is what we all know and decry. You have been going around and speaking. Perhaps a more targeted approach at some of the foundations of news reporting would be more productive. I’m suggesting getting in at the major journalism schools and talking with the professors, and maybe at a class, on this matter in particular as the perfect example of a violation of journalistic ethics. The schools are big on teaching the ethics of journalism, about fairly reporting it, about proper research. All of that has been violated on this topic — and that makes… Read more »

Ten days later, the Monterey County Sheriffs are still “probing”? Where is the outrage against this killing?

I’m curious again. Anybody know how many drunk drivers, drug dealers, arsonists, embezzelers or paroled murderers have been beaten to death, stabbed or shot because of their crimes? Funny, I’m just not reading of any…OH! I know now, they’re not on a registry! Well, arsonists are kind of, but not like Megan’s. Go figure. Methinks these are hate crimes against a particular group of people that have been singled out for something done years in their past. Politicians and law enforcement continue to add fuel to the fire of hate with their asinine laws and uber strict enforcement of unconstitutional… Read more »

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