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IN: LGBT proposal still faces debate, but a provision protecting the transgender community is spurring concern

Some fear the ordinance, if approved, could be used as a pretext by sexual offenders falsely claiming transgender identities to enter bathrooms of the opposite sex. …

Concerns like his aren’t lost on Councilman Brian Dickerson. Registered sex offenders, Dickerson worries, “could use this to prey upon future victims,” claiming transgender identities to enter public restrooms of the opposite sex. He doesn’t support the ordinance “in whole or in part in any way.” Full Article

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Wow it must really suck being these people and living in fear and paranoia like they are.

I would question the person who thought this was actually a problem.

That’s strange; I didn’t see any specific cases mentioned where a registered “sex offender” claimed to be trans gendered for the sole purpose of going into a women’s bathroom with ill intent. Maybe I missed it. And then again; perhaps some people in that town have overactive imaginations.

Really; these people need to stop listening to all the wild claims and lies some people tell.

I scoff at their ignorance when it stated “Registered sex offenders, Dickerson worries, “could use this to prey upon future victims,”. As if “normal” people would never do something like that, but the concern is only with ‘registrants’. Really?

Well; I’m sure Dickerson isn’t a registered sex offender, but he “could” use his non registrant status “to prey upon victims” in a bathroom (why does it have to be a “women’s” bathroom?) ,even though a sex crime happening under that circumstance is about as likely as someone being struck by lightening. This is just one more instance of some room temperature IQ type pushing a solution looking for a problem. He is just one more marginal public official that is going to save his constituents from the boogeyman, and then go home and touch the neighbors kid.

Are they saying there are not or will not be sex offenders among the transgender group?

Well, let’s be honest. There are a lot of men targeting young boys? So, what’s the difference? California enacted a law allowing transgenders to use the opposite sex’s restrooms? How would you feel about a large male in a dress using the same restroom as your little girl? Uh. Most recently, I visited Northern California and drive through SF. As I came to a stop light, a naked man with an erection crossed the street? My 2 young children where in the car. I told them to get down. As I looked around, multiple males where walking around nude, beating… Read more »

Yup; Frisco is indeed a weird place. I was there once watching a parade and a bunch of balding and portly middle aged men were dancing down the street almost naked making out!!!! I live outside of Palm Springs and I call that town “Frisco south.”

I can’t answer your question because it is common knowledge that this whole sex offender thing started on inaccurate and flawed information. But just for the record; I’d vote to ban transgendered from restaurants, because it just don’t sound like it would make for an enjoyable eating experience.

Sorry folks; I meant to say “naked” trans gendered people. In fact, I’d vote to ban any naked person (trans gendered or not!) from a restaurant I regularly ate at. I have no problem with trans gendered people, as I am not, nor do I wish to be the arbiter of anyone’s sex conduct or orientation.

” it was nuts”….literally

USA, In your post today you refer to transsexuals as “a large man in a dress”. I think you had a bad experience in SanFrancisco, which Bay Area residents simply call “the City” (Where I lived for years). From your descriptions, you were showing your family the Castro District, simply called “the Castro” by SanFranciscans. That’s the only place in the City where nudity is openly practiced, which was LEGAL up to Feb.,2013. Then the City outlawed it. First offence, $100, infraction, not criminal. So the Castro residents are arguably UPSET for what they have been doing for YEARS. Going… Read more »

Okay, let me clarify. I am from the Bay Area; more specifically from the San Francisco Peninsula (and I’ve lived in SF for many years before going to God awful OC where the fit hit the shan; I’m back in the Bay Area for good). All of you are really blowing the whole nudity thing way out of proportion in SF. You are also interpreting the laws wrong. While nudity has been outlawed in general, it is allowed for the purpose of protest and during festivals/parades where streets are closed off. The interpretation of transgendered is completely wrong. It is… Read more »

USA: I apologize to you for my comment that you were showing your family the Castro. Maybe you were just going past City Hall on Van Ness and ran into the spectacle there that NPS mentioned. But the Castro is its own tourist attraction for the heteros to gawk at while driving in there. NPS: Doesn’t the City have terrible residency restrictions against Registered Citizens, and that’s why there are only 600 living there? I lived there before I was forced to register. Q: Frisco isn’t indeed a wierd place; it’s ECLECTIC ! Bet that was the Gay Pride Parade… Read more »

Actually, San Francisco is more of a sanctuary city than anything. They don’t enforce the residency restriction because that would leave all of SF unavailable for any registrant. I lived two blocks away from three different schools (elementary, high school, college) and my PO didn’t really care much about it. In fact, she crossed out a lot of the restrictions that the transferring agency (Orange County) required. I never got a home visit, never a phone call unless they needed to cancel our scheduled appointment for a later date. It was very easy. As for the registering officers, they told… Read more »

Good comments nps. All that bigotry towards anyone is unacceptible and hypocritical. Cities or counties should be allowed to enact less stringent laws that don’t violate constitutional rights as they see fit but not be allowed to pass laws that violate rights.

Well, with 93% of minor victims knowing their offenders, the safest place for children is in a public restroom full of strangers.

Oh boy, you guys don’t get it. There is a difference between a transgender or TS. As the article states, some guy could simply claim he is a transgender and use the female restroom? Now, if you had a young daughter and some guy came into the women’s restroom wearing a dress with a beard, would you be okay with that? I was simply conveying that there are worst things out there! What if I had young children and lived in the neighborhood where nudity was allowed? As such, what’s worst, allowing a transgender to use the women’s restroom or… Read more »

Clearly, YOU still don’t get it. I’m calling you out as a liar. I have seen plenty of nudists around San Francisco (not just in the Castro) and I’ve NEVER seen a single man walking around with an erection. NOT ONCE. It’s quite apparent that you are exaggerating the facts to fit your ignorant statements. You’ve also never been around the LGBT community. A man in a dress? That’s your definition of a transgender? That’s a transvestite and they are overwhelmingly heterosexual men who do this in PRIVATE. If a transgender citizen approached you, you wouldn’t know they are one.… Read more »

Okay, guys, slow down a bit. First of all, I am a post-operative transsexual (male to female). 1) Transgendered is a blanket term used to cover a range of gender identity from crossdressers, pre and post operative male to female (M2F) and female to male (F2M) to those that are questioning, or are in-between. It is used because transvestite has become a bit insulting. There are trans people that have ZERO desire for surgery or living as the “other” gender full time. There are those that are so upset because they were born with male genitalia (or female genitalia) that… Read more »

Thank you for stating what should be obvious to all of us: labels do not the person make.

Thank you for your contribution to this topic. Though I am not an LGBT person, I do have friends who are. When I hear statements that are uninformed about this community, I tend to stand up for them. But it’s always best to hear it from a person who has first hand knowledge and experience. I, too, have come away more enlightened. Again, thank you.

One of the conundrums that I pondered while I was incarcerated in prison for 2 1/2 yrs. was the placement of gay and transgendered in prison with heterosexual men. To me this seemed the same as if they were to make a coed prison for men and women. I saw many inmates carrying on open relationships with one another and thought to myself “It would be nice to have a female companion while I’m locked up in this horrible place.” Where’s the fairness in that? Shortly after being transferred from jail to prison (Reception) I was placed in a lock-down… Read more »

I suppose the answer is to depopulate the prisons of the non dangerous, so that inmates remaining can have their own space, like the prisons in Europe. That would be more humane, and make prison more like correction and not like it is, torture.

Time to repopulate the prisons with those who are blatantly removing constitutional rights from anyone who has completed their sentences and has had punishment heaped upon them by the truckload.

Yes, in a perfect world we would know who is or isn’t dangerous. But, our system is not perfect and probably never will be. There are psychopaths who are very manipulative and are released to go on and commit more serious or heinous crimes. How good are you at judging character? I personally know that I’m not that good at it. When I walk into a new unfamiliar group setting it comes natural to me to look for someone I can Identify with, to walk over to that person and try to spark some small talk that might spark up… Read more »

Timmr: thank you. I love your posts on the other discussions. NPS: thank you. I am glad I was able to reply. Mike T: Some states do not segregate trans inmates. However, a post-operative trans inmate/prisoner needs to be housed with those that match the “new” gender. It’s wrong to put a pre-operative M2F in a women’s section, but they are in danger in a male area. I have a friend that has not had surgery yet, but was in jail for a short time because of divorce issues. That caused her a lot of issues, but luckily nothing bad… Read more »

CONGRATULATIONS LGBT. !!! Today SCOTUS decided 5/4 that SAME SEX marriage is NOW the law of the land !! Someday we will take the voyage to SCOTUS too. We need to be REHEARD !!!

NPS: There was something I wanted to ask of you: On one of your visits to the City, could you stop by Mark Leno’s store ? It’s near Market and Van Ness. Maybe call ahead if he’ll be there. Visit to say thank you ?
Go to Wikipaedia for the backstory first, about him and his partner, and the store.
I figure you live in “Sammateo” as Herb Caen called it..

I just got back from the City about 10 minutes ago. I live in San Mateo County, but not San Mateo. I live only 10 miles away from SF, but I’m still registered to vote in SF. I’ll look into Sen. Leno’s shop. Thanks.

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