Elissa Alvarez is paying a high price after she was filmed having sex on a crowded public beach.
She told INSIDE EDITION: “I am a sex offender right now.” The 21-year-old and her bodybuilder boyfriend, Jose Caballero, are now on the national sex offender registry. Full Article
Hey lawmakers you got what you wished for. Isn’t this a great reality? So tough on crime going after those sick perverts who had sex on a crowded public beach at 2:30pm while a three year old and other children were playing nearby.
Dumb choice for sure, but if this is how law enforcement and prosecutors continue to use government resources we are not going to have anything left over to spend on important things like roads, schools, and community improvement initiatives that reduce the overall risk of crimes being committed in the long run.
Well, I’m pretty open minded, but what if this had been 2 men? Or, what if some man was masturbating on the beach?
This stupid woman thinks she shouldn’t be a sex offender because she didn’t molest a child. That is a good example of what happens when everyone is ” painted with the same brush.” Many who are labeled sex offenders never molested a child, or anybody else! However this genius, and many others like her, thinks they all have. And, since we’re being judgemental, how can anyone think it’s acceptable to have sex on a public beach in the middle of the afternoon??
NPS, I agree with you that this young woman made a stupid choice (under the influence of alchohol), but should not bear the burden of a lifetime registration that was intended to keep tabs on violent offenders against young victims and woman.
Margaret Moon said it correctly “painting everyone with the same brush”, should not be allowed in this great country. It is time to keep our voices flowing to the authories that could change this stupidity and humiliation of offenders not violent against anyone.
All the evidence surrounding this particular situation “registrations of sexual offenders” seem to point at a political agenda item of power and nothing to do with “saving the innocent victims” of such sex crimes.
Praying for this to all come to and end soon.
Wow, you guys have a very disturbing view. What should happen if this occurred in a front yard? These people clearly knew what they where doing. You guys think it’s okay to have sex on a public beach during the day in front of women and children/families? You guys belong on the registry. I have a family. Furthermore, I’m entitled to my opinion. Plus, if you read the other articles, the man was a convicted felon prior. Im very disturbed
What eludes many in all aspects of this is that the real constructive use of the registry may be when a person is actually on supervised release. When their sentences end, in most case, they should be removed or given a finite time they are on the published registry. England has a ten year period.
(BTW – why does Pete Townsend get to perform here if we can’t vacation over there? I’d like to know that answer in a different thread!)
This would have been the appropriate use of the mechanism in the case of the victim that this law is authored after.
It’s use as punishment for those who have atoned for their crimes (or attempted to amidst the chaos) is far beyond the reasonable scope and ventures into cruel and unusual very quickly in too many cases.
The perpetual ruination of lives is punishment beyond the sentence itself. There are many factors but the point of much of our concern is the arbitrary punishment that has no safety or rehabilitative measure – it is done out of sheer ill will and hatred for a beleaguered group.
People can learn from mistakes. Statistics indicate so. Let’s give them a chance
and remember that we all have taken a fall of sorts and have learned – or are learning – from our mistakes.
Wow! Based on the comments; I’m not touching this one! Is it a full moon?
Well, Joe doesn’t sound like he likes to hear other people’s views or their opinions. Furthermore, like many uneducated or narrow minded people, he takes things out of context/I’ve mentioned receiving summary probation for my ordeal and meant the life requirement to register is disturbing. He sounds very angry, unhappy, non educated, narrow minded and it seems or appears (in my opinion) that he thinks it’s okay for people to have sex on a public Beach for all to see? Get counseling.
The more that are put on the SOR, the quicker it will be repealed.
Well, I don’t know, but it seems like this couple going at it on the beach upset the sensitivities of the adults, probably much more than it did any lasting damage to the kids who happened to glance at it.
I’m willing to bet that the 3 year old hardly noticed nor cared. The adults were the ones offended. The child was simply a convenient object to rationalize social outrage.
I wouldn’t, myself, have sex on a crowded beach but I’m willing to risk seeing others do so, on the very rare occasion that that might occur, rather than have an all-powerful government strip me, or them, of their rights.
I see the common theme is, “what would you do if…” I agree that the 3 year old probably had no idea what was going; toddlers usually don’t have a clue.
On three occasions, I’ve witnessed sex at the beach.
1. Evening bonfire with friends and a few yards away from us, a couple started getting it on. One of the guys in our group went up to them and told them to get a room. They left.
2. At dawn, I saw a couple having sex on a lifeguard tower. I just laughed and paddled back into the ocean with my surfboard. They were gone before sunrise.
3. In the afternoon, one man was performing cunnilingus on his girlfriend. She was sitting up smiling with a towel covering them both; though it was still pretty obvious. My friend and I walked past shouting, NO SHAME! We turned to look back and noticed that the couple was leaving.
That’s all it takes. Just a few words and they leave. Grandma could’ve easily yelled out, “Get a Room” and it would’ve made them stop. She went overboard by filming them and calling the police.
Now, I just went through a similar scenario just last week. The couple upstairs from me always have extremely loud sex. Not just at night but also mid afternoon. I walked out of my building to the parking lot and noticed their windows were wide open. And yes, you can easily hear the girl moaning loudly. From my vantage point, no one could see, but the people in the next building have a clear view. Finally I shouted “THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD CAN HEAR YOU!” The girl stopped mid-moan. It’s been quiet ever since.
The point is… this an example of a gross overreaction with a harsh punishment that is completely unnecessary.
Wow, it doesn’t sound like any of you are married or have children. I’ve not heard one of you truly address the issue. Everyone seems to be more concerned about the perpetrators and not the victims! It’s almost like you are blaming the families or children? This is a common practice amongst perpetrators/ie: she shouldn’t have worn such a revealing dress/the child seemed to be coming on to me.
One inducidual even blamed alcohol? Lol. Oh boy, it’s everyone else’s fault. Guys, own it! The male is a convicted felon and spent time in prison. Maybe it was the 21 year old female was forced? I guess I can now get drunk and run someone over/it was the alcohol your honor? Lol/your free to go.
Guys, start watching the show parole board. If I where a lawmaker reading your comments, I would have second thoughts about removing the registry. I don’t agree with lifetime registry, but the deserved something. Otherwise, why should we even have laws. Duh
Apparently USA cannot read and prefers to espouse a single minded point of view. I do have two children; a boy and girl in their early teens now. I am also happily married. I talk to my kids and teach them about life and not let the street do it for me. From all accounts they appear to be normal and healthy, and likely know more than I realize. I also don’t freak out about the topic of sex and need to shield their little ears. I pray none of your kids talk dirty over the internet, or send a photo, to some under age girl or boy, and get arrested for being a typical teenager, and labelled a sex offender.
You still have not explained how labeling the women in question a sex offender helps at all. How was anyone truly victimized? Where is the trauma? No one here has said the behavior was appropriate. It is the follow up actions of law enforcement and the courts that is an over reaction. I would be more worried about my kids being around folks like you than this women. Your attitude is just the Christian version of Sharia Law.
justice for ALL said “I am truly starting to question not only your original story, but your motives here. Clearly ANYONE that is on the registry would never advocate it in the slightest. Your logic (if one could even label it that) Is completely broken.”
justice for All, USA is a real person. I do not sense the same air of deception of Miranda Veracruz de la Jolla Cardinal, who is clearly not a California registrant and clearly advocates for nonsensical positions like supporting draconian Chris Kelly cyber-nazi registrant internet identifier reporting and if anyone disagrees, he will rub the bad situation of being a registrant in your face. USA does not do that. So I will continue to read his posts without the same skepticism I apply to Miranda and whatever his new troll nicknames post here.
Wow ! Did anyone have the same thought I had that if I was watching this little circus go down knowing the dreadful situation we are all in here to actively warn them to stop . The simple words “Stop you guys ! You are gonna get busted on a Sex crime and have to register for the rest of your life as a Sex Offender ! ” That honest statement to them would cut thru any amount of alcohol or passion and would be the ultimate buzz kill or cock blocker . I really don’t want anyone else to have to suffer through our restitution .
Correct! Yes, I registered. I’m not stating these people should be required for life, but they do require punishment. Otherwise, the next time you go to the beach or park, this might be happening for all to see. NPS and others never seem to address the issue or accept the fact that anyone is responsible ie: someone should have warned them? Ie: they where using alcohol ie: everyone does this ie: 3 year olds run around the beach naked all the time? It’s mind boggling. It’s everyone else’s fault. This is a common delusional view many perpetrators have. It was their fault! I wouldn’t have touched her if she hadn’t dressed so provicatatively. As such, you can’t rationalize with irrational people. So, you can take hours to respond to my comments, but the bottom line is that the man was a convicted felon (they might have let them go if they had ran him and he came back with s clean record/duh). Although, after running him, they realized this wasn’t the run of the mill character! Duh. Guys, start looking at the big picture. (The man had done 8 years in prison for cocaine trafficking)!!! So, maybe they should have let a convicted Felon who spent 8 years in prison a slap on the wrist! Guys, start looking at the big picture. If he had been some everyday guy without a serious criminal past, we wouldn’t be discussing this. Wake up!
I’ve been doing some reflecting on this USA character. Yes Justice For ALL, USA is a sex offender (I can’t even call him a registered citizen), but regardless of that fact, he is still a troll. There is just no rationalizing a troll. Like Miranda (who has mysteriously disappeared), USA’s message is clear that everyone here should be a registrant but him. His message espouses the idea that the registry is necessary. Anyone who disagrees with his message is apparently deserving of the label. And he erroneously makes assumptions about who we are and what our cases may be. Many of you have met me in person at the Berkeley meeting which pretty much defied how USA had characterized me on this site. So when he starts critiquing who you are, just consider the source. Ignore him as I will start doing. He’s just no longer worth my time. Our time is better spent Standing Up, Speaking Up and Showing Up. It has worked and we are making progress with Janice, Frank, et.al. at the helm. Let’s continue to do so. Eventually USA will grow tired of being on the defensive and disappear.
USA has one point correct people need to be held accountable for their actions. I think that goes without saying its such an obvious point the problem is there is no such thing as proportionality in the criminal system when it come to these type of acts. Sure these people should have gotten a fine maybe even arrested at most but that’s where it should have ended that would have been proportionate not a felony charge prison time and life on a shaming list. Way WAY out of proportion.
Troll? Very defensive and obviously a very angry individual. If anyone disagrees with NPS, he attacks them/calls them names/becomes angry and he makes very false accusations. He appears to have a control issue. I imagine he lives in the SF area, is gay, attractive and probably holds himself higher than anyone else. Now, he made a mistake/probably many and is now focusing his delusions of grandeur on everyone else. He is too smart! Whatever he thinks must be final! Start looking in the mirror. Deep down, who hate yourself and past mistakes. So, stop focusing your anger on everyone else! I have noo desire to meet you. I personally feel your a very angry person and I bet 100000/1 you committed s child related offense!
Sex on a public beach in front of children….wrong, sure, but I don’t think children who witnessed the scene will have lasting mental problems or nightmares. It may have triggered curiosity at best. Heck, sex is everywhere, and kids are exposed to it on a daily basis, whether it is in a movie or a Carl’s Junior commercial. Parents need to educate their children so they grow up understanding what is right from wrong. I think this woman should receive a hefty fine and trust me, it most likely won’t happen again. Nobody got hurt and it was mostly offensive (for some at least), inappropriate and not to be repeated. But that should be the extent of it. I can think of many more inappropriate behaviors, but registry and possible prison time, that is just overkill.
Interesting to see the difference between those posting on Inside Edition compared to those posting here.
IMHO I would feel much more comfortable around those folks with their conservative views on such crude public behavior.
Well, your clearly defensive NPS. He gave you a 290.06! Wow!!! I received Summary Probation. Everyone knows about you? You shouldn’t even be on the register? You clearly did prison time and it clearly was child related! Your story are true personality is coming out. I do believe in the registry. I personally feel it kept me on the straight and narrow and I bet it does or has affected many of you. I believe misdemeanors should register for 5 years and felons 10 years. I also believe people’s names and addresses shouldn’t be posted online for all to see. In addition, I feel that the police should be the only ones who have access to this info. You guys are very angry. As mentioned before, this couple probably would have and should have just received a slap on the wrist ect, but the man is/was a convicted Felon and had did 8 years in prison. So, he was obviously not an angel. There is a difference between 2 drunk people having sex and a parole who did 8 years for cocaine trafficking. So, you guys don’t seem to comprehend this wasn’t your run of the mill guy. Felon/8 years in prison/cocaine trafficker! I don’t think any DA or Judge would let this guy slide unless they wanted to get fired or removed from the bench. Duh
No matter your veiws conservative or not its the disconnect between proportionality and the offense that’s troubling. Give em a fine and probation and be done with it. That’s proportional to their crime. BOTTOM LINE
USA clearly has Stockholm Syndrome with a side of bigotry. Can’t blame him for his distorted views and slanderous accusations against registered citizens.. I almost feel sorry for him. Almost.