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>Hillary wasn’t rejected, she was the victim of electoral rigging, she won the popular vote. As far as I’m >concerned those little tiny states should not have electoral votes. Two, while she has some responsibility >for Benghazi, the ultimate responsibility falls on the president who has authority to order extra protection >as well. As far as your crooked present elect goes, the rich will get richer, and the poor, poorer. I’ve never >seen a Republican do anything for poor people, or the middle class, ever. Rick, as a historian you should know that Jack Kemp helped the poor and middle… Read more »

Lol, Hey, I’m just human, sometimes I do make blanket statements, esp in politics. I never claimed to be perfect. I’m just wondering why you find my posts so worthwhile to respond too? I’m starting to feel picked on? To be honest, I felt Hillary was going to lose, and now I don’t care, it’s over. I don’t even really know why I supported her, her husband literally enabled all of this RC crap. And i was always leary she would make it worse for us. I think it was just a lot of what trump said that bothered me,… Read more »

Sex Offender Cases Before the Supreme Court, from 1997-to-date. Out of my own frustration trying to keep track of a number of cases (14, that I can find, so far), the Court’s decisions and, perhaps most importantly, WHO voted and WHICH WAY and are they DEMOCRATS or REPUBLICANS (this seems to be a hotly debated topic here recently), I’ve put together a handy spreadsheet providing the answers to those intriguing questions. For each case, there is a brief summary of the issue and the question before the Court, the final ruling and how each Justice voted with color coding to… Read more »

Here is a paper which looks to be useful:

Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology
Volume 103 | Issue 4 Article 3
Fall 2013
U.S. Supreme Court Decisions and Sex Offender
Legislation: Evidence of Evidence-Based Policy?
Christina Mancini
Daniel P. Mears

So, there is a new movie coming out called “The Edge of Seventeen”. It is rated “R” for sexual content, language and drinking – all involving teens. The main character is dating a much older guy. It has 7.1 stars on IMDB so it looks like the majority likes it and sees NOHTING wrong with teens and sexuality. Just wondering.

Yea it’s legal to promote it on TV, just don’t use your real camera, lol.

BI database linked with Interpol now running in 10 int’l airports

This is referring to the Philippines Bureau of Immigration.
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“Are Sex Offenders Human? New documentaries can’t get past the question.”

This from our friend Judith Levine.

This Thanksgiving I want to show my appreciation to the great Land of the Free. Thank you for keeping me in chains for most of my life. Thank you for rescinding your part of our deal & punishing me for years after my part of the deal was satisfied. Thank you so much for including my family & the ones I love in my present & future punishments; can’t forget about them now, can we? And for the most part thank you for reminding me why you would treat me this way. Sometime before the colonies were established in 1776,… Read more »

Hi all important question,

Me and the wife just found out shes pregnant. Is there any law saying i cant have a child/or cant be around him/her. Im in CA. Just want to know if i should go to court now to fight for the right now. Convicted of felony but consensual from years ago.

Seek legal advice from an attorney with your case info

This story is so upsetting, this cop avoids jail and registration, yet i will have to register for the rest of all life for have four picture files of a sixteen year old. John Walsh can sleep with a sixteen year old and its Ok, but for the rest of us that make a mistake forget about it, its all over.

Shouldn’t people be asking for the DA’s and Judge’s removal? A petition perhaps? An article of special treatment for law enforcement by the town crier? If the jail population got wind he was a LE and did this, he would be beat down for sure had he been put in the can! Just read other stories like he where that outcome happened. Was this for his own safety? What is this because he was white and LE? Where is the justice in this from the same general area as the Stanford and Oakland PD cases? Why is no one letting… Read more »

“Ramirez will not have to register as a sex offender.”

Shocking. /s

Does the Registry NOT violate our 13th Amendment? Among others.
I feel as tho our biggest handicap as a group is that we are severely unorganized. Always stuck in defense mode.
Can we get some PDF’s on this site?
From both ACSOL and us the voice.
Ones designed to inform the uninformed and others to rally those of us not yet apart of this site to show up, stand up, and push back.

I’ve tried to get an answer as to why involuntary servitude isn’t a viable option, especially here in Cali where the term is a lifetime term, which should be a red flag for involuntary servitude. On ML, it says it is a “duty” to register.

I think it’s b/c everyone is trying to connect registration to punishment and neglecting that involuntary servitude is prohibited unless to punish a crime. You’d think that would scream a great opportunity, but it hasn’t.

I like your argument. As for duty, we have a duty (for most of us) to pay taxes, but non registrants get something in return, police protection. Duty to register should be called inverse duty or involutary servitude. What we get out of it is not protection but endangerment for ouselves and family and enrichment of those administering the registry scheme. Indeed it is beyond that, we have been classed as dangerous commodities to be regulated under the pretense of public safety. Commodities don’t have rights, just uses. What part of the Constitution bans the State from taking away your… Read more »

The Thirteenth Amendment states: “Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.” But, of course, we’re not being punished. We’re being ‘civilly regulated’ even though our ‘duty’ to register confers no ‘consideration’ upon us, i.e., we receive nothing in return for having fulfilled that duty. We are, not only NOT being compensated for this duty, we are tangibly damaged by it. And yet, the courts have found nothing in this duty to register and in a… Read more »

Here are some academic papers that may be worthwhile:


‘Database Infamia: Exit from the Sex Offender Registries’ by Wayne A. Logan

‘The New Civil Death: Rethinking Punishment in the Era of Mass Conviction’
by Gabriel J. Chin

‘The Thirteenth Amendment: Slavery, Involuntary Servitude, and the Convict-labor Exception’ by Andrea C. Armstrong

I really enjoy your postings of helpful info…seriously….you provide good stuff to reference and understand I never would have thought about digging up or even know where to start.

I see judges and legislators do some mental gymnastics to get around the obvious. They are framing this as a national emergency, during which civil rights must be subverted to maintain the safety of the most vulnerable of citizens, children. Exibit A: the frightening and high myth. It is very similar to the Red Threat or “murderers and rapists” crossing the border. Notice how the latter incorporates both xenophobia and fear of sex offenders. I am really disturbed we are nearly invisible to the major civil rights organizations, these laws haven’t raised many red flags and they are not connecting… Read more »

David! Thank you so much for all the resources. In one article, it denoted how we do not know the protections of the 13th amendment for those no longer under custody. That is many of us! According to many of the papers, registration is a form of collateral consequences. Under this venue, there are two cases that denote that collateral consequences are deemed unconstitutional. Weems v United states came down with this : ” Two Supreme Court cases invalidating punishments analogous to civil death suggest the punitive nature of civil death. In Weems v. United States159 and Trop v. Dulles,160… Read more »

Due to the depressing nature of the material you listed, I am going to take a break before I read the last piece. Two things that have made an impression on me: 1. The scope and breath of those suffering under severe collateral consequences. About one fifth of the nation’s population has experienced an exposure to criminal penalties and and is arguably suffering continued disabilities. Expand that to families of ex offenders. 2. The momentum in the courts and the legislatures is to keep this ball rolling. The existence of this population should be a concern for those in power,… Read more »

I forgot another paper from THE DUKE JOURNAL OF GENDER LAW & POLICY. Ordinarily, I am pretty skeptical of “Gender Studies” work but this was pretty interesting:

***,d.cGw ***

Thanks again, Toxic, errrr, David.

You’re welcome, Timmr!

I would like some feedback,I have for the last 5 years been retired,my son is starting a business doing computer repair ,network installations ect.He wants me to work with him,I would only repair computer problems.He will have an office space,I would work 3 days a week,taking in the repair work,working the phone and repairing things.I just registered my yearly report,and put retired on the form,do I have to go back and do it again because of this job,or is it done on my next yearly.One time in the past my car broke and had to be replaced,I went to redo… Read more »


Not sure what your question is, but if it’s about the car, you should probably just do what the detective said to do and not worry about it. If you are worried, you might just be able to call in and update the info. Go work with your son, try to enjoy it, and don’t stress out over this stuff.

I have a question about Puerto Rico. Does anyone have any info on living there? Any lawyers that you can recommend. I might need to move there with my wife for about 6 to 12 months for a business opportunity.

As a US territory, it is under similar laws as the rest of the US and recommend you read up on their laws regarding RCs at this website:

If you need, consult an atty there for further info.

Sandy Rozek of RSOL has written a powerful piece on the collateral consequences of the Registry in yesterday’s Washington Examiner.

From Bill Dobbs, a link to a criminal defense blog, AppelateSquack:

SORA: The human cost of junk science
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The following is very good for pondering the ‘regulatory vs. punishment’ issues and legislative intent and from which my new moniker denoting my toxicity is derived:

But seriously folks – SORA is punishment
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There’s also this short-and-fun piece which refers to a ‘contest’ to solicit designs for the new sex offender passport:

Homeland Security announces contest for best sex offender passport design
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This piece may be the best from this blog, however:


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Thank you David.

Great read! thanks for the article! In all those links, it reveals how the 2003 decision stated things that were supposedly not accounted for and therefore merely conjecture. We now have ample proof that the level of shaming has increased, the fact the label prevents parents from participating in their Children’s activities at school, and the actual empirical data to refute “high and frightening” recidivism. The deterrence of employment and housing is important b/c it was a comment in the 2003 decision that said wasn’t effected, but tell that to all those in in Florida under a bridge. The deterrence… Read more »

I haven’t talked to my family for about 4 years now. I have lost all my family and friends. I have only my son and fiancé in my life. I have been in my depression for about 10 years. Can’t imagine life happy when I have a sword always above my head. Know that I am close. Close to ending this torment that will always follow me, my son. I don’t leave my house. Keep to myself. No hope that this will stop. Every year the government comes to my home to remind me. That is 17+ visits. Feel like… Read more »

Don’t give up HOOKSCAR. I’m in the same boat. My brother and sisters snubbed me as did my friends. Only one family member has stood by me although a tiny amount reluctant she has really stepped up.

I will challenge the registry. You have no reason to believe I suppose but I will. It isn’t going to be quick but it is a solid plan. The outcome isn’t guaranteed bit we all need to try right?

There are people that care.

HOOKSCAR, all of us can fall into depression if we isolate and focus on what is bad. The key is for us to communicate with others and focus on our blessings, no matter how few they may seem to be. Just a few years ago, NOBODY was fighting for us. I don’t know what pro-RC organizations are in your state, but now we have national organizations fighting for us like ACSOL, National RSOL, and ACLU (they supported us in the Public Safety committee hearings in Sacramento). Those of us who went to Sacramento can attest to seeing how our efforts… Read more »

Hookscar, I share your “unrequited toil” of despair. I want to move forward, but the registration is a constant proverbial chain that says you really aren’t free despite paying for it already – and you never will. Coming here day after day… hurts more than feels good. Some days I don’t want to come here so I don’t get depressed. There is hope. Not from California, but from Michigan. Michigan courts actually stood up and announced the empirical findings as well as made connections to the 2003 decision. California has its CASOMB, but neglects its own empirical findings – hinging… Read more »

If anyone has any information to share about travel to Mexico, please send an email to I received contact today and was told by a man with a home in Mexico, with contact with a notario and attorney with immigration contacts, that the US is telling Mexico not to allow entry. Evidently Mexico has new computers funded by the USA. There is a quid pro quo about sharing information, which is one sided because Mexico does not have a registry. He said that he was at the border immigration station and was detained along with a Mexican citizen who… Read more »

I’m a bit confused by your post. Hasn’t Mexico been denying registrants entry for years now? What has changed ? Maybe I’m not understanding your post. Please clarify 🙂

Mexico has evidently been returning RC’s when they were notified by the USA. Once an RC is in their database, any time you try to get a visa the RC has been returned. What my contact is telling me conflicts with what we have been told by our government. Our government says that they only notify other countries. According to this last contact, Mexico is denying because the USA tells them not to allow entry. If anyone has a copy of the document that a RC is asked to sign upon arrival, please contact the RTAG group or contact… Read more »

I read this quote today, albeit it an old quote, I thought it was fitting to share with the group as this seems to describe the self-fueling unfounded fears about registered citizens.

“We all have a tendency to think that the world must conform to our prejudices. The opposite view involves some effort of thought, and most people would die sooner than think – in fact they do so.”
– Bertrand Russell

Trump just tapped Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) for AG.

Fasten your seat belts. It’s gonna be a bumpy ride.

We are done.

I disagree, LM. We are not “done”. Pro-RC group members will continue our work from both the top and the bottom of the court system and legislative systems. We will have both wins and losses, but we WILL have wins. Many regulations are local, not national, so each of us in our own states can be effective in fighting them, as we have successfully done in California. I recommend you take a more active part in that so you can see how you can be part of the change. Don’t give up hope. The statistics on how badly anti-RC laws… Read more »

Illegal arrests and imprisonments caused by Alameda County court’s “disaster” filing system:

In at least two instances (a drug offender, as reported by nbcbayarea) was uploaded as a sex offender into the system. And several times people have mistakenly been arrested and jailed due to the new computer system flaws and likely employee errors learning the software. Lawsuits are likely.

I was just in the process of trying to submit a resume to a company and came across this: “Have you been convicted of a felony involving dishonesty, breach of trust or a violation of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act?” I am not sure how to answer this. I tried to do some research online and some sites suggested that this statement only applies to financial fraud, whereas other sites tended to state that it covers pretty much everything. In my case, I am off the hit-list in my state,so no worries there. It has been over… Read more »

Many states limit how far back employers can check for convictions but do not prevent them checking to see if you are on a sex offenders list, however, many states prohibit the employer from considering the conviction if it is unrelated to your job.

This link provides a good overview of the Ban the Box laws:

I would answer no. This is with regard to the financial crimes segment, which is part of the 1994 Act they are referencing.

I’m checking in to see if the registry has been defeated yet.
I take it that’s a no.

Timmr, It will happen as soon as a big time, pro-SOR, big shot’s kid gets put on it. Every person is redeemable’ – my job treating rapists

“My work has opened my eyes to human behaviour. In many ways sex offenders are all different” *** Judge William H. Pryor Jr. of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit appears to be a top contender to fill Scalia’s seat. This is bad because, in addition to being staunchly socially conservative, he is also an outspoken supporter of judicial deference, the “deference” being to lawmakers’ horrible laws. They willingly overlook injustice because they don’t see correcting it as their job. This trend in our Supreme Court is why we have Smith v. Doe. He argued for the state in Lawrence v. Texas, the anti-sodomy case. A few of his written gems: “It should… Read more »

Of the police state, by the police state, for the police state….probably for the use of thermal imaging devices too as patrol’s ride through the neighborhoods looking into people’s homes.

Good article over on……this is one bad mofo that has no place in the justice system….thanks for the tip on him…..if Bork could be denied, maybe this guy can too if he is the eventual nominee….

good to see your still active here lake…

ML, thank you for the link. I just read the opinion. Wow! What good news. It appears the Supreme Court is now in the position of doing nothing and letting both the 4th and 6th Federal Appeals Court rulings stand which will help shoot down quite a few sex offender statutes across the country or to actually address the unconstitutionality of sex offender statutes. This puts the SC in a position they probably do not want. I hope the SC just lets the ruling stand because I do not trust the SC, especially with a new conservative judge to be… Read more »

AirBnB sent me an email today notifying me that – as the result of something they found while running a background check – they have permanently disabled my AirBnB account. Interesting. I’ve been an active member for two years with no problem.
(If I’m such a scary bad dude, I wonder if they apologized to all the people I rented from for putting them “at risk”?)
What next…some government putz putting a unique identifier on my passport?
** Frustrated. When does this sh!t end?**

Yes, that is bad news. I have been hoping to make some additional income from an unrented unit. I will have to check the alternatives to AirBnB and hope that one of them is not so craven. I’m not at all hopeful, however.

This is never ending. It’s mind boggling to me how any of this is legal. I would imagine that might be a good case for Janice to pick up and win. But I’m not an attorney – check with her. It’s ridiculous you cannot rent in Airbnb.

I don’t think that this can be challenged in court. Airbnb can check the Registry and act on that information. That’s the problem with the Registry; the government provides it and a company can check it and legally refuse to do business with you. As it stands, neither the government nor those consulting the Registry can be held liable for exercising lawful discretionary choices. Indeed, this appears to be the way that the Registry works as intended.

It cannot. Best Value Inn checks the registry of all its guests if it is not declared when registering for the night to stay when they initially inquire. AirBnB is within their rights as a business.

exactly people it’s coming man….where is the evidence to justify all these laws including the entire registration scheme….watch it’s coming and its soooooo long over due….

this decision needs it’s own thread…after reading this i am ecstatic how perfectly aligned this is with what I’ve been saying forever now….justification, empirical evidence, facts man…there are zero facts to support a registry in any…good luck government on producing such evidence or even finding any expert witnesses to even back up their unsubstantiated claims….this is an incredible decision and articulated perfectly for my motion…god I’m stoked on this and am totally remotivated to continue drafting it…..beautiful….

great job ml for bringing this to us on here and providing the link…this is very encouraging…

OMG!! This DOES appear to be some pretty good news! Thank God- I really needed a boost today! ☺☺☺
Thank you for posting the link, ML!

“President Obama must immediately revoke the regulatory framework of the Bush-era registry program called National Security Entry-Exit Registration System (NSEERS), which predominantly targeted Muslim immigrants based on their countries of origin. In the hands of Donald Trump, this program can potentially be used to target, register, and deport Muslims….”*
A Registry? Come on now, what Country would create such a Registry?
*from an email I received

I don’t understand why this great idea hasn’t caught on ….. Register the World, I say! And make everyone complete a form every time they see a movie, drink a coffee, buy a Christmas tree, or fly a kite!

“Two Federal Courts Call BS on Banning Sex Offenders From ‘Child Safety Zones'” by Jacob Sullum, for Reason Magazine.

Reason is a libertarian publication and has done more to bring attention to the injustice we face than any other with the possible exception of The Nation which is leftist.

They have been doing a good job of that at Reason. By the way, you are a great embassador for libertarianism. I didn’t know The Nation had articles favorable to us. There is one journalist there, I believe it is Valenti ? that definately is not favorable. Good to know. I tend to be leftist in many things, but I hate labels, and see much of The Nation and Reason as opinion papers. I see people as being basically tolerant or or basically intolerant, but anyone can be either at different times under different circumstamces towards different groups. One should… Read more »

Thank you Timmr! I am reticent to make the cause of justice about any particular political ideology, however. The way that we will defeat this terrible injustice will be by putting aside political differences and working towards its defeat. The last thing we need is a political litmus test as a precondition to contributing to this struggle. Part of the challenge we face is in seeing and identifying allies in this fight who may not always agree with us on other matters of public policy and the proper role of government. We should resist the temptation to broaden its scope… Read more »

‘By the way, you are a great embassador for libertarianism.’

If there ever were an official title, he’d do well with it.

So it’s that time of year again. I got the ‘courtesy letter to remind you it’s your duty to register on your birthday and if you don’t we’ll file a criminal complaint against you’ letter last week with the number for the detective in charge to call. The letter also stated that she only works Mon through Thursday, 7am to 5pm. I work Mon through Thursday 5:30am to 3:30pm but with traffic don’t make it back home until after 5pm. On Fridays I get out at 12:30pm but the detective isn’t there those days. I called yesterday to make the… Read more »

That sucks, J. This crap really puts a damper on one’s life, doesn’t it? I’m fortunate that my PD ‘s registering agents have been reasonable, accommodating, courteous & professional. (One birthday, the entire registering thing slipped my I mind and I was out of town on vacation. The registering officer called my cell phone, ‘said it wasn’t a problem, “Just call so-and-so when you get back to schedule an appointment.” That was it – no harassment, no threats, no verbal “scolding”.) They don’t have to be jack-holes – it’s unfortunate that so many choose to be.

Does every office make up their own rules? I assume you are in California. Noone ever sends me a reminder to register. That would be nice. I have to call every time to find what times they are available or if they are taking reservations or not. Fortunately, they are well staffed, your taxes at work. Nice photo machine and fingerprint scanner. The clerk at my last registration told me the business days included only the days the office was open to register. Therefore, since they are open M thru Th, five “days” is split over two weeks. I don’t… Read more »

Timmr wrote:
“Do it right. Take all that money from education, health and clean water and explain to the public how registration is more important for the kids than those things.”
Great sarcasm! hahaha

Just call them early, they will likely accommodate you. Business days is the days they are open. They could violate you, but I imagine the DA wouldn’t waste time charging you as tong as you stay 5 business days they are open before or after your birthday. It would be a great issue to take to a higher court for a final interpretation of business days. Lake County is very reasonable to us, so I’m lucky.

The thing should do J contact a lawyer on this matter. I had situation, at the beginning of my registration, that the only officers that can do the paper work was going to be on vacation during the time I was supposed to update. I contacted the Public defender’s office and a lawyer called the PD and she told me go down to the PD office. One officer’s was there in 15 minutes and updated me. I have never and problems since. A good lawyer can break the stone setters at the PD.

Los Angeles Sheriff has already harassed me twice this year for “compliance checks.” They also go to my neighbors to ask about me, which I don’t think is appropriate. My neighbors still waive and say “hi.” But they probably think I’m a pervert. You know what? Who cares what they think. It’s been many years since my conviction — and I think that just shows how corrupt the L.A. Sheriff Department is.

Have any of you read that nearly half of the child pornography sites on the internet are run by the FBI? The story is that it is about ensnaring potential pedophiles, but it would appear that it’s useful for blackmail too. There have been reports recently of other nations compromising people in our government in order to get them to do spying for them. It would make sense that our nation or even certain political parties also find something viewed so heinously as useful to either silencing, discrediting, or gaining the cooperation of people they ensnare. Julian Assange founder of… Read more »

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