MN: Supreme Court Won’t Hear Minnesota Sex Offender Case

This is horrible, absolutely horrible. So now we have the criminal justice system, and then after that the civil injustice system. The State’s power has just grown by leaps and bounds in a very dangerous direction. Their declining this case really, really troubles me. Snyder being denied pales in comparison to this.

Hopefully some of these men (or the sole woman) pursue “as applied” challenges and can get themselves released.

I think people are reading into this wrong….Or maybe I am.. Although freedom from physical restraint invokes a fundamental right, those fundamental rights are not absolute. That is the actual question that was being asked and argued. Even though it is completely screwed up, and we all know it, there is absolutely no procedural due process claim or facial claim, and they explained all the reasons why there wasn’t. And it just doesn’t reach the high standard the court has set for a substantive due process claim. First off, the only actual fundamental right that they were arguing is the right to freedom of speech and association, of religion, and freedom from search and seizure. The full force and protection of those fundamental rights apply to free citizens of this country, not to persons under custody or in civil commitment. And the following statements would be hard to argue against if the person has already been determined by so called “professionals” to be a public risk to themselves or others.

To meet this high standard, we have explained that the alleged substantive due process violations must involve conduct “so severe . . . so disproportionate to the need presented, and . . . so inspired by malice or sadism rather than a merely careless or unwise excess of zeal that it amounted to a brutal and inhumane abuse of official power literally shocking to the conscience.” Moran, 296 F.3d at 647 (quoting In re Scott Cnty. Master Docket, 672 F. Supp. 1152, 1166 (D. Minn. 1987)). Accordingly, the district court applied an incorrect standard in considering the class plaintiffs’ as-applied substantive due process claims. D. Substantive Due Process i.

I don’t agree with it, but those are the high standards that we must prove exist. “so disproportionate to the need presented, and . . . so inspired by malice or sadism rather than a merely careless or unwise excess of zeal that it amounted to a brutal and inhumane abuse of official power literally shocking to the conscience”.

I think I can prove every aspect of that standard in my motion. That is exactly what we need to focus on…
Apparently, they must of met those standards in Snyder….
The Snyder case denial is incredibly important and much more relevant to all of us that are not in custody, on paper, or have not been deemed a sexually violent predator that was sufficient to invoke the civil commitment standard. The following statement is particular important.

By denying the review, the Supreme Court leaves in place a decision from the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals, which declared that portions of the law are unconstitutional. Noting the lack of evidence that registries actually protect the public, the appeals court held that restrictions added to the law after its original passage cannot be applied retroactively and that the state cannot cast people out as “moral lepers” solely on the basis of a past offense without a determination that they currently present a risk.¹ The state appealed that ruling to the U.S. Supreme Court.

Issue: Whether retroactively applying a sex-offender-registry law that classifies offenders into tiers based on crime of conviction, requires certain offenders to register for life, requires offenders to report in person periodically and within days of certain changes to registry information, and restricts offenders’ activities within school zones imposes “punishment” in violation of the ex post facto clause.

That denial speaks volumes man…”Punishment”. That opens the door for so many suits it’s ridiculous…..We can now bombard the courts with all kinds of of other claims such as: cruel and unusual punishment, ex post facto , and as the court already stated, unreasonable, arbitrary, oppressive official actions, Separation of powers, and in every other way. Man, everything I have in my motion is now extremely relevant and all my arguments now have confirmed standing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Screw the Minnesota case, it wasn’t going to prevail the way it was argued……..I am frigging jumping for joy, AJ and Chris, do you guys see what this means????? The key is that it is now US Supreme Court confirmed “PUNISHMENT”!!!!!!!!<<<<<Amazing

This isn’t really surprising is it? Ladies and gentlemen what we have here is a failure to communicate. There must be a painful cost for NOT changing current law and practices against registered citizens before such change is going to happen. What that looks like is hard to see. Perhaps a holistic approach going after those preaching behind the pulpit and holding them accountable for their beliefs. Educating those in Law schools, those studying psychology and at religious seminaries.

What would it take to get people to talk about such change in salons, barbershops and even behind the pulpit at church? Until somehow it is made personal and directly in the backyard of the average citizen change won’t happen. Stories of decent every day people being convicted and put on the registry is a start because everyone thinks becoming a sex offender is someone else’s problem and such can never happen to them. Our enemy is the “THEM verses US” mentality in society. We need to make it very clear that they (the average citizen) can very easily become one of US in that equation. Police might need to be feared more than respected because sex related charges are very easy to convict. Questions to the average parent: do you really know what your teen is looking at online by cell-phone? Do you know what your child is doing at school? Are you sure that email sent to you doesn’t have CP embedded on it?…so many ways to find yourself or your child on the registry…to sale that truth is easy because we have so many stories to support it.

It was once said the hardest sale to make for a salesman is burial plots…one top salesman in that industry said, “to sale burial plots you must first make the customer feel the grave.” To sale getting rid of the registry you must make the whole of society fear they or someone they love can be the next listing on the sex offender registry. Sort of a different kind of grave, but think about it.

Until we registrants harness the resources available to us by our shear numbers and engage in our own communities we are part of the problem but we can be the answer by using the registry as a valuable resource for recruiting and empowering. Together we will make change happen. Perhaps this defeat will encourage us to gather more of ourselves, then Organize and mobilize. Again if you or any of your close family members are on the registry you are no longer a civilian you are a soldier. The sooner we can communicate that to the rest of those on the registry the sooner and better we’ll bring change…one by one, day by Day…Show up, Stand up and speak up as Janice says….engage anyway you can using your own talents and strengths and we all will see a brighter day ahead. Freedom is NOT free…It’s fought for and together we will prevail So help us God!!!!

Shi….20 million…more like 1/4 of the country would be on a list…nationally 1 /3 of americans have a criminal record…. https://www.brennancenter.org/blog/just-facts-many-americans-have-criminal-records-college-diplomas

Register everyone or no one…..Thats 1/3 of all working adults..That’s 1/3 out of at least 200 million people….do the math…