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NY: Bill preventing minors from living under same roof as sex offenders awaits Cuomo’s OK

Minors will no longer be able to live under the same roof as sex offenders who have committed violent sexual crimes thanks to a bill from Island Assemblyman Charles Fall (D-North Shore) that made it out of the State Legislature before the 2019 legislative session ended Friday. Full Article

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Has this bill actually passed? It shows it was sent back to the Senate. This article is the only verification I see. Nothing in main stream media. The bill is A04784C

Looks like you’re correct DJ. It’s not awaiting Gov sig just yet.

I don’t like this “It would also prevent sex offenders from having unsupervised visits with a person who has been convicted of a felony sex offense in New York or another jurisdiction.”

Something about this article is fishy. I haven’t read the text from the bill yet but I’m guessing what you are referring to may actually be about unsupervised visits with a minor, not another RSO. I’d like to see some mainstream reporting on this as I can’t see that it’s actually going to Cuomo yet.

“Has this bill actually passed?”
From the legislative information (; look at the action on 6/20/2019 and it’ll be clear), it has passed both legislative chambers. Where it maybe gets/got confusing is the legislation the chambers passed is the Senate version (S02836). The Assembly version was replaced with the Senate one, which was then passed by the Assembly and kicked back over to the Senate. The Senate will send it to the Governor for signing.

From my very cursory reading of the legislation, it appears it applies when the child is the subject or victim of the sex offense. That narrows it a bit.

That’s what tenn law should be like if the present child is a victim of sex abuse or in danger , not if you was an offender and ever had a victim in past way past not present , but in tenn. It says any minor under 12 not if the present child is a victim of sex abuse , so they are literally making our child move out whom is not a victim nor in any danger ;( they devastated him by this new law , ;( emotional scarred and confused why he can’t be here at night and made to leave ;( oh I hate this junk and it’s not fair to an offender who has twenty years later changed is stable and has a new family for twelve years , stable and living and has child raised and not a victim or in any danger , I hope ny is not getting like tenn !! Here

Contact a lawyer. You have a fundamental right to live with your family. Hire an attorney for your son and have him file the lawsuit.

“If a State were to attempt to force the breakup of a natural family, over the objections of the parents and their children, without some showing of unfitness and for the sole reason that to do so was thought to be in the children’s best interest, I should have little doubt that the State would have intruded impermissibly on ‘the private realm of family life which the state cannot enter.’ ” Smith v. Organization of Foster Families, 431 U.S. 816, 862–63 (1977) (Justice Stewart concurring), cited with approval in Quilloin v. Walcott, 434 U.S. 246, 255 (1978).

Not just a assumed unfitness, but actual unfitness. Unless your child was your victim (even then this can be cruel), they do not have a constitutional right to make your child move. Call an Attorney now. File the paper work now. All before July 1st when that law goes into effect. Get a stay and fight. Even if you’re broke go file on your own. Call the ACLU. Call someone.

Well, since NY wants to eliminate a registrant’s parenting rights, wouldn’t the same logic demand they legally relieve registrants from child support payments? If rights come with responsibilities and obligations, then why should those responsibilities and obligations continue when the right is taken away?

For that matter, why should registrants have to pay taxes to support schools, parks and other state-owned and operated facilities if they’re not allowed to use them as any other member of the public?

“I think the biggest point here is that loophole … was open for so long,” he said. “Think about how many kids were at risk as a result of this.”

The loophole was open for so long, but doesn’t seem like they site a lot of examples. Maybe because this is just more fear mongering not based on reality. So it never really happened much by people already convicted.

They only care about ripping families apart if it happens to non-citizens.

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