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CA: Scammers Target Los Angeles Registrants, Families [UPDATED 9/2019]

UPDATED SEPTEMBER 2019: THIS SCAM IS STILL ACTIVE. PLEASE READ BELOW.

Aug 4, 2018: Scammers, who often pose on the phone as law enforcement officials, are threatening registrants with arrest and demanding immediate payment of sums up to $3,000 in order to avoid jail or prison. There are reports of this occurring during the past week in at least two different cities in Los Angeles County — Upland and Lawndale. According to the reports, the scammers have told registrants that they either failed to register or registered improperly. For example, two registrants were told this week that they are required to register on a quarterly basis although there is no such requirement in CA law.

“If you receive a call that demands immediate payment for a failure to register, be on the alert,” stated ACSOL Executive Director Janice Bellucci. “The source of such a demand is likely to be a scammer. Real law enforcement officials do not demand payment in any amount for a real failure to register.”

After falsely notifying a registrant that he has failed to register, the people posing as law enforcement officials attempt to keep the registrant on the phone until he purchases several gift cards in lieu of cash. Registrants are then told to drive to the parking lot of a nearby police or sheriff’s station where the gift cards are demanded. In all reported cases, the police or sheriff’s station to which the registrant has driven is closed for business.

If a registrant asks the scammer for a phone number, they are told to call 800-561-0389 or another number.

“The best way to stop a scam is to hang up the phone and not answer the next phone call,” stated Bellucci. “If you give money, gift cards or anything else to a scammer, you will only encourage them to prey on other innocent families.”

It is also reported that phone calls from an attorney who demands that calls to registrants cease and desist immediately have been effective.

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And the scammers got their phone number How?

I would NOT fall for any of it but my wife on the other hand, would be an absolute scared, nervous wreck. She very well may send money.

Yet another reason that the registry does nothing but hurt. If registrants aren’t harassed, injured, and/or murdered by vigilantes — then registrants are subject to being singled-out by these types of scams.

How are they getting people’s phone numbers? It’s not on the public website. That question needs to be answered in detail.

All these clowns have to do is look on the registry, then put your information in zaba search. There, they could track down additional information, like a phone number in order to conduct these scams……

All,

Check voter registration online info for phone numbers after checking online RC database.

RC database won’t publicly publish phone numbers, but voter registration is public info and may have the phone number listed. Two databases to give a more complete picture of the person.

Some states only have a phone number publishing opt-out option when registering to vote (if the RC can vote) instead of an opt-in. They’re sly about it too and won’t tell you.

This is probably one way so many folks are targeted for different scams.

I think you ought to call police and make them show up and arrest the people. Is it still not a serious crime to impersonate law enforcement? Make the criminal regimes that run the hit lists deal with their problems.

I am one of the targets of this scam and unfortunately the scammer tried reaching me through my employer. The scammer left a message along the lines of wanting to speak with me about registration before I went in to work. No details were provided beyond that other than a name of the person, the 800 number above, and an extension to reach the person at.

Let them call me and demand payment, I will gladly give it to them if they meet me in person and can take it from me.

Forgive my digression, but it reminds me of an incident in my long ago past. I was at a gay bar with my then-boyfriend, a slender-framed fellow. As we were leaving the bar, he was walking a few feet ahead of me in the parking lot while I was lighting a cigarette. A pick-up truck full of wannabe gay-bashers screeched into the parking lot. A couple of them jumped out and headed right towards my guy, assuming he was an easy target. They were clearly surprised when I ran up and said, “‘How ’bout you start with me first!?” I guess that was problematic for them, since I had been a competitive bodybuilder! Before they could react to my suggestion, about 30 young, very angry guys rushed out of the bar and into the parking lot. Well, confronted with these turned tables, the would-be bashers jumped back in their pick-up and sped off…… as the guys in the parking lot dared them to come back anytime.
My point is this: I don’t think these scammers realize they are targeting a group of very angry individuals who are already very pissed about the way they are mistreated. Not a good idea to try to harrass or scam them.

QUICK QUESTION: If a registrant gets a call from a scammer, and can successfully tell the guy to call back later, what is the best way to set up that scammer for a sting?

See scammers get their just due.
Youtube: Hoaxhotel and enjoy.

As a police officer once told me, “If we’re considering arresting someone, we’re sure as hell not going to call them and give them a heads up about it.”

I got one of these calls last year and, thankfully, I’d heard of the scam and turned it around on the scum bag. His explanation of what PD he was associated with was so full of holes. He clearly had zero familiarity with LA (probably never been out of his flyover state) that he finally caved and hung up on himself in frustration.
That was actually fun. Sadly, however, my elderly father got a scammer call and HE called me in a panic that I’d better go down to the police station before they arrest me, yada yada. My dad has moderate to advanced dimentia and can barely remember to put on pants, but he sure remembered every bit of this call out of concern for his son.
On a lighter note, I sure do love to call these assholes back from a spoofed number and royally F with them.

If you have a smartphone, get the Hiya app, or something similar that has basic caller ID and automatic private number blocking.

Screen every call from an unknown number. If they want to scam you, they can leave a message, which means their crime is recorded.

These are probably the same morons who are doing similar scams about being in trouble with the IRS, etc. My guess is they are in a foreign country, and good luck catching them.

I agree with Janice. Hang up, and ignore their calls. In fact, block that number on your phones if you can. Get another call from a different number, then block that number too.

I dealt with a phone scammer by taking away the only thing of value I could from him. His time. I was on a 6 hour drive when I got the call, so I kept him going by pretending to follow his instructions. I pretended to be stuck in traffic, delayed by an out of service ATM, and giving him praise for being so patient with me. When I couldnt delay any longer, I thanked him for keeping me entertained on my drive and told him I knew about the scam from the beginning. After he yelled a few cuss words that caused me to laugh, he hung up. I didnt even have to block the fake number because he never called back. That was about 90 minutes that he wasn’t able to scam anyone else.

The company who operates the number in question is Grasshopper Group, LLC. They are a VOIP service provider. I have reached out to them to report the abuse to get this scam shut down.

I was just scammed out of thousands of dollars by people posing as Department of Investigations working with US Marshalls. The Scammers new all the right things to say, they even had police radios for back ground noise and pretended to call for me to be picked up. It all seemed so very real. Why are we as Sex Offenders on this unconstitutional registry not being informed of this scam? I did some research and found out this scam is happening in several states. We are really not having any of our rights protected and our right to privacy, which seems to be none, is violated to our detriment. The bank also will not protect me for the money I was coerced under duress to hand over.

How about REQUIRING California registration officers to warn ALL registrants about the scams, and to provide SPECIFIC guidelines in how the registration office contacts the registrant? This way scams will be reduced greatly, though sadly not completely. But it should give everyone the heads-up; the feeling of dread is still the same whether it comes in multiple B&W’s lights flashing and guns brandished, or by an alarming phone call from out of the blue.

I emailed about this 2-3 months ago, reported that this happened to me. They got me good; calling from the right number, saying all the right things. They told me that I failed to show up for an appointment to take a new DNA sample and it automatically resulted in an arrest warrant. Same MO as the others, stay on the line, send some money blah blah blah. What got me was that this was just weeks after I moved into a new country so I honestly thought it was something I needed to do and didn’t know about so I got suckered.

Unless we forget the LEO are the biggest scammers of RSO; I was a victim of a Sheriff department STING and was charge with 664-288(a) . That is why the PD does not care about the scams against us; those are their “relatives” doing to us what the PD did in many cases

The guy that tried to scam me had a distinct southern accent. I sure as shit hope he’s the one they busted today!!!

https://ktla.com/2019/09/16/georgia-couple-posed-as-l-a-county-deputies-to-scam-victims-out-of-16k-in-gift-cards-sheriff/amp/

My hub and I both had phone calls like this. My hub called me one afternoon while he was at work saying he’d gotten a phone call on his cell number. Right away I knew it was bs. A few days later I got one too at the house. I ripped the person on the other end a new one. Yelled at him, your full of *&*&%^%@! stop calling us, and get a life jerk, and hung up. lol. I felt better and they didnt call back. We reported all of this to both the local sheriff’s dept, and the city police (each call said they were from different agencies)

I just received one of these calls (I think). Got a call from a 213-282-9912, saying he’s with the Los Angeles Sheriff’s department informing me that I’m out of compliance and I got paperworks in December to update them but now I have a warrant for my arrest. I told them I will call my local registration office (Long Beach) to verify this and hung up phone.

I decided to call the number back on a voip line and it “appears” like you’re calling the Sheriff’s department, except when you dial a “1” or “2”, etc, for the department, it plays the typical hold music and then hangs up.

I also got a call from the same number today (jan 18th) at 9 a.m. on a Saturday. Since i didn’t answer, I let it go to voicemail. It was a lovely message from “Detective Pickens” (who sounds like he’s 18) of the Los Angeles County Sheriffs department calling to let me know there was a problem with my Registration and to call him back at
213-282-9912 ext 706
I’ll be blocking the number and also seeing if I can download the voicemail.

They have called me a few times since Sunday. I did a reverse lookup app and the scammers where located outside of Coffeyville. I hang up and blocked the number after hearing they wanted money for a bond over the phone. I also let the group at sharper future and my agent know.

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