International Travel – Mexico

The U.S. government is no doubt pulling a snake move here. They can not restrict travel so they notify the destination country of a potentially questionable person resulting in denied entry…….Pretty slick, They violate the law without violating the law.

So, I read this thread a week ago and did some digging around. I would say fly in with an FM2 visa.(fm2 gives you all the rights of a Mexican citizen except voting and holding a Mexican passport)

How do you get one of those? Not as hard as you might think (bit of cost and effort involved). Drive across the border and hire an attorney to file articles of incorporation.There is little restriction on filing for a foreign owned business in Mexico, in fact it doesn’t even have to conduct business. You include in the filing the requirement that any employee or officer hired by company be granted an fm2 visa for work purposes.

You can not request your own original filing of an FM2,This must be done by an existing business. To get around this, hire an accountant to do your monthly tax filing ($75.00) and a one time fm2 application (1000.00+) on behalf of your newly filed corporation, requesting the required FM2 for the company officer as required by your articles of incorporation.

Go home to the U.S. return in 30 days and pick up your indefinitely renewable (by you now) fm2.

Now you can certainly drive across the border and fly anywhere in the country on that visa without the need for your U.S. passport. I would suspect that you could also fly in from the U.S., present your FM2 upon entry, and exercise your right to be in Mexico.

This would be for a person that wanted to make several or yearly trips. Probably to costly for a single casual vacation.

For those who are registrants that want to relocate to Mexico permanently, it appears this can be done as well.

First exercise existing Mexican law by establishing a foreign owned corporation complete with FM2, Then follow the framework laid out in (UNITED STATES v. MURPHY)

This exposes a S.O.R.N.A. wrinkle, that makes this both possible and legal.

(it sucks reading case law,but this one is golden)

http://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-10th-circuit/1589851.html

It appears that if you first get an FM2, you can relocate to (non S.O.R.N.A. jurisdiction) Mexico. The United States court of appeals points out that your S.O.R.N.A. requirements are fulfilled when exiting a S.O.R.N.A. jurisdiction (the U.S.) and going to a non S.O.R.N.A. jurisdiction, so long as you change your address to Mexico within 3 days. Once in Mexico you are no longer required to report anything, you may move around as you see fit on the visa that you already had before you got there.

I am no lawyer, this is just my perspective on both Mexican and U.S. law that i have come across and is currently in place. I can not find anything that would stop this from working. This is simply meant to be a foundation for further investigation. If anyone knows of a law that would prevent this please post it. If anyone has access to a lawyer who is knowledgeable in this area please forward this info to them for comment.
Thanks

Hi everyone,

I’m set to go to Mexico for my honeymoon, but now I’m having serious concerns after reading this thread. I was convicted of a sex crime in 1998 when I was 13 years of age. I was relieved of the duty to register around 2007 and had my record sealed and firearm rights restored in August of last year. I intend to call the US Marshall’s office and see if they can help me out or at least let me know if my passport is flagged per Odemadrid’s success story, but was hoping some of you denied entry could explain your situation more. Mostly I’m wondering if everyone denied entry is still required to register as a SO or if people are being denied even after being relieved of the duty to register. Any insight is greatly appreciated.

Thanks

I called my local branch found here http://www.usmarshals.gov/contacts/districts.html

I then inquired about the National sex offedser targeting center and SORNA to the general operator and got transferred to the correct department.

I was just denied entry at Cabo Sunday (Nov 30th), flying in from Seattle. I’m a level 1 RSO. As my party walked into the immigration zone, a policeman casually asked to see my passport. I showed it to him, and he waved another guy over. I realize now he was looking for me specifically. He took over to the little office and said I was flagged as an RSO, and asked what for. Told me that Mexico doesn’t allow SO’s into the country and asked if I wanted to call the American Consulate. I asked if that would do me any good, and he said no, so why bother? I bid my family goodbye and they walked me straight back to the plane I’d just left. As other people have mentioned, it pisses me off that nobody told me that this would happen before I left. It would have been a bummer, but at least I could have salvaged the miles or price of the ticket. Now I’m realizing that I’m effectively trapped in the US at least for another couple years when perhaps I can petition a judge to remove me from the list. But now that Mexico has this information about me, I may never be able to go there again, if they’ve flagged my passport in their own systems. I guess I can understand why another country might need to know about the level 2’s or 3’s (violent), but does someone that has been classified as unlikely to reoffend, not a danger to others, really need to be denied entry?

I too was sent back to the US while trying to enter Cancun. My wife and I booked a trip in March of 2014 for travel on Nov. 5th. Of course I was denied entry and taken off the plane first. The Mexican Offical did state that it was the Untied States fault and that they were sending them the information. But how do they know where im going? this would mean that even the airline are giving the information to the Feds. I truned myself in to the lakewood police department in 1987. I plead guilty the Sexaul Assult on a child. I was placed on 6 years probation. I violated my probation by poss of cocaine and sent to prison in 1991. I was released in 1998. Never been in trouble since. Im now 51 years old living in Colorado still. I travel alot, more that twice a month. the last time my wife and I flew they told her she could used TSA Pre pass but I could now. I fly around this country 25 times a year and she might fly 5 times. I have filed for discontinued registration. I am mark for life.