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International Travel – Mexico

There have been many comments / stories on recent travel to Mexico. This post is dedicated to Travel to Mexico. Some Mexico specific comments  have been moved here for further discussion.

Also see:

Living with 290 – Traveling to Cabo San Lucas

International Travel

Sharing More Information Will Enable Federal Agencies to Improve Notifications of Sex Offenders’ International Travel – United States Government Accountability Office, February 2013 (Highlights)

International Tracking of Sex Offenders Working Group – An interim report of the collaborative effort to develop a system for tracking registered sex offenders as they depart and enter the United States, as required by 42 U.S.C. 16928 (White Paper) – developed by representatives of the Department of Justice, Department of Homeland Security, Department of State, and Department of Defense offenders as they depart and enter the United States, as required by 42 U.S.C. §16928, December 2010

Current Situation Results in Thousands of Passports Issued to Registered Sex Offenders – United States Government Accountability Office, June 2010 (Highlights)

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Regarding the Angel Watch program and the purpose behind what is happening for international travel and RSOs. We tend to look at everything as though it centers around us. I am of the opinion that we are just a step in a larger plan. Rather than looking at government trying to restrict our travel, consider that the U.S. government is trying to restrict (control) all travel by U.S. citizens. In countries like China, a person cannot travel from one province to another without getting written permission from the government. Consequences are very high for not complying. The message is “resistance is futile.” But the U.S. cannot start restricting the travel rights of the average American citizen. So what does the government do? Start with restricting a class or group of citizens that most people would agree should be restricted. That’s us, folks. Who is going to make a big stink about preventing registered citizens from international travel. See anyone out there fighting for our rights? A good salesman knows that you initiate any sale by getting the prospective buyer to agree with you. You ask questions where the obvious answer is “yes”. The more times you can get the buyer to say “yes”, the more likely they will say yes when you try to close the deal.
Okay, America, we should restrict the travel of all those sex offenders. Right? —- Yes
We should restrict the travel of any felons. Right? — Yes
We should restrict the travel of anyone who owns a gun, because they must be violent. And we should warn other countries about them. Right? — Yes
We should restrict anyone who disagrees with what we say, because they might infect other countries with their crazy ideas of personal freedom. Right?

We are, in fact the ‘low-hanging fruit’ of a much broader agenda to control the movement of all people. We’re the experimental ‘starter’ group, perhaps, although international travel restrictions have also been extended to those who are said to be in arrears in child support and, of course, there is the ‘no-fly’ list which must be seen, in its total immunity of the government and its imperviousness from outside scrutiny, as every bit as egregious as banning sex offenders from travel.

Nevertheless, we are amongst the very few whose rights to travel ARE being abridged in what is almost certainly an emerging overall trend in such restrictions. As such, we have every right to be outraged as well as every responsibility to challenge this ominous shift in public policy. We should be as concerned with the internationalization of U.S. jurisdiction over its citizens and the implicit claims of ownership our government makes upon us as well as the international mechanisms to facilitate those claims, such as Interpol, as we are with any other act of injustice committed against us.

I have often thought of the parallels with overtly non-free countries, such as China, with its “internal borders” and its visa requirements to travel within the country, as well as the historical restrictions on travel imposed within the former Soviet Union. We are not that far away from such restrictions, even if ours are, for the time being, more narrowly-tailored. However, we now see this movement as truly international, in which governments collude with each other against their own citizens. This is unique and uniquely disturbing.

I had a very brief exchange with Mick Moran of Interpol on Twitter recently. He is the chief honcho in charge of tracking registered sex offenders as they cross borders and alerting member nations (which is, essentially, all nations) when they do so. He said: “No problem with RSO travel when everyone, including destination country is aware.”

This is, obviously, a lie (and he certainly KNOWS it’s a lie) as is his statement “I know many more RSO who have travelled and have harmed children [David: than those who were denied travel, apparently]. Lot mores I’m afraid.”

So, he’s essentially pandering to the hysterics here by promulgating, as the sex hysterics have always done, outright lies and is himself a campaigning hysteric, albeit one in a position of great power. It is worth noting that he is not an American, but an Irish citizen, but through ‘international cooperation’ has become one of our chief tormentors.

This should scare everyone, not just registered ‘sex offenders’.

But since it won’t, and doesn’t, we have our work cut out for us.

I was falsely accused of 1 count of 288a Lewd and Lacivious act under the age of 14 in San Diego back in 1985 at 23 years old, happily married three children and a beautiful wife, level III engineer Central Office Telecommunications. Never had any convictions or felonies in my life before or after, now I am 58, still have to register every 90 days and considered a tier 1 registrant can not find gainful employment, background checks take care of that right away. I was convicted on double hearsay evidence in court and cohearsed into a plea bargain deal as they threatened my wife while I was in county jail to take the children away. I went completely insane during that time that the fact law enforcement came into my home , interrogated myself and family from a conversation my apartment manager overhead from other children playing in a sandbox with my children while I was at work. They took me to jail and my family lost everything we worked so hard to build our lives and raise our children the best we knew how. Who are these people playing God and destroying the lives of innocent people forever. I spent 10 years total incarserated, got out tried to rebuild had a few decent jobs until Homeland Security went into effect, I just have had enough to where I just don’t care anymore, I am the nicest guy in the world, always helped other people never asked for anything in return, talk to my children when I can reach them, they understand their Dad is the best Dad there is. The system has to change, guilty until proven guilty is crazy, now the passports, who the hell are these people, you never see the ones that create the insanity they are the cowards that destroy humanity.

My point exactly. Thanks for chiming in, David.

in my view, illegal aliens have more rights than I do. Seriously, any illegal alien with a green card, can travel internationally back to their home country and come back to the US as much as they want.

Let me get this straight: For a simple 2001 misdemeanor sex offense by statute, for an “ATTEMPT criminal sexual act” because someone was 4 months shy of their 17th birthday, and F******* lied about their age, I am restricted from working in the US and leading a normal life like everybody else.

And now, I am restricted from traveling to another country to work and lead a normal life, because?

Am I supposed to love my country after all of this? I’m really beginning to understand now why so many people dislike the United States. Anyway, sad to say that I really don’t feel that this is “my country” anymore.

Welcome to the club. Now, feeling as you do now, imagine if the American government was launching Hell Fire missiles from the wings of Predator drones – the pilots thousands of miles away – into your neighborhood and killing your friends and family. Your disillusionment would turn into seething hatred. That is how many people around the world feel about our country and why so many Americans sew Canadian flag patches to their backpacks when traveling abroad.

Illegal aliens don’t have green cards. If they did, they’d be legal permanent residents. In fact, illegal aliens don’t have any documents. But regardless, you’re right, they do have more benefits than American citizens and legal residents.

Such as…?

“Copy and paste this and send it to all of us”
God bless you!
Alert act now!
The U.S. Senate passed International Megan’s Law with amendments and sent it back to the U.S. House of Representatives for approval.
The Senate passed HR 515 formerly known as “International Megan’s Law” with another NEW title “InternationalMegan’s Law to Prevent Child Exploitation and Other Sexual Crimes Through Advanced Notification of Traveling Sex Offenders” and added a section about passports.

Essentially, all current passports for folks CONVICTED of a sex offense/s MUST be reissued, with the words “SEX OFFENDER” prominently displayed on the passport. And all new passports for folks convicted of sex offenses will be issued with same wording.

The Senate also added a section for appropriating funding ($6,000,000) for each of these years (2017-2019) to implement International Megan’s Law.

Advocates and their families and others need to immediately contact their U.S. House Representatives and object to the entire IML bill (and concept), and any other similar bills that may arise.

There’s an entire topic thread related to this. We’re all well aware of this law.

With reference to Mexico, does anyone have a success story using an attorney in Mexico? Any specifics on the process? I was looking for specifics that have actually occurred and not guessing. I want to be legal.
I do know that in many cases, a registrant can walk or drive across the border, but to move past the free zone, a visa is needed. I have been turned back twice, first by air and then a second time as I attempted to get a tourist visa at the border. Any help would be very much appreciated.

Actually, you are not allowed within the “free zone”. Per Mexico law, you have been deported.

“Foreigners who are deported from Mexico and attempt to re-enter the country without authorization can be imprisoned for up to 10 years. (Article 118)”

If you enter the country, even in the so-called “free zone”, you can be arrested and charged.

Also, you may be surprised to learn that the border is tightening up a bit. In fact, CBP is now scanning people as they cross into Mexico.

I’m not a lawyer, but there’s my two cents. Flat out, I wouldn’t even consider crossing over; especially having already been rejected from the country before. Just not worth spending 10 years in a Mexican prison over.


There’s a difference between being “deported” and being “denied entry” into Mexico.

The CBP are scanning people as they enter into Mexico at 1 crossing, not all crossings.

Yes this thread is still about Mexico.

Things are looking up!


why are things looking up? as you stated with regards to travel to mexico

Sorry I was feeling a moment of joy regarding my personal situation with Mexico. In as much as I don’t like to reveal too much information on this Blog, I am hopeful that things will work out. But I’m still not out of the woods yet, and I’ve got a long way to go.

That’s ok! Glad to hear for you…

i live in mexico inside the free zone. rosarito is where i live. i bought my passport worried that they would never give it to me before i crossed into mexico. a week later they gave me my passport. i was panicking as i walked across the pedastrian crossing saw some military dark skinned guys. heart throbbing worried i would be stopped and questioned. nobody paid any attention to me. and i was across the border and into mexico. been living in mexico for a year now. no problems. police don’t care if you have a visa or not. though the city is one of the most hostile cities i have ever been in my life. 30 to 60 minutes south of tijuana is where i live. not nice people at all here in mexico though. rude, disrespectful, you name it. moved recently into a big 275 per month apartment. living room, kitchen, shower and bedroom. i am here because i don’t want to go back to U.S.S.A because of no freedom. here in mexico there is freedom. now there is a new facility where there is more security walking into mexico and have to have passport and all. i dont know about driving in. one commentor here said it’s no problem no worries. i came in when they where so laxed that they did not care to check up on background or anything. saving money planning to fly out to singapore or japan. my charge is sexual battery; groping a woman’s butt. misdemeanor. don’t know if this offense is under international megan’s law or not.

Don’t chance it man, stay where you are.

I was in Rosarito for a while as well. we were in a house close to some casino, and you could see the fence from our house.

yeah that is nice to hear you lived in rosarito too. how about ensenada is it cool. my friend told me you can fly anywhere in mexico with just your american ID. that is so cool.

Sounds like the pedestrian crossing hasn’t changed much from when I was on holiday in San Diego a few years ago. Me & a friend crossed the pedestrian bridge at San Ysidro and got waived across by a man in fatigues sitting on a rusty old card table chair. He didn’t even check for ID

When I was living in Cali in the early 90s, I had a friend who owned a 2 bedroom condo in a gated development about 40 miles north of Ensenada. I forgot the name of the development but it was on the cliffs overlooking the Pacific. Very beautiful! And my friend paid 50 grand for the condo. He shouldn’t have sold it shortly afterwards because I’m sure it’s worth more now.

I’m surprised rental prices are in the 200s in Baja because that’s what my step brother paid in the early 80s when he lived in an American community near Rosarito Beach. He worked in San Diego but he wanted to save money by renting in Baja

Don’t burn bridges with the US. What if you get sick or need medical care? It sounds like your offense is not that serious and some states won’t publicize your name on their registry. Just something to think about.

Singapore & Japan are mega expensive. You’re better off going back to the states where it’s a lot cheaper. If you like Asian culture, Portland is a great place to live plus Oregon only lists level 3 offenders on their website. You’ll pay an arm and a leg for rent in Singapore. Plus I believe Japan turns away RCs now. You can double check the matrix that RTAG puts out. I remember seeing Japan as a no go.

But good luck in whatever you decide to do! Just be careful and watch your funds

yeah they don’t post my name on their registry in california at all. i have to register but its not on the megans law website. i have looked online for cheap places in japan for rent. and have found a few for $500 per month plus utilities for a small apartment. south korea got the biggest expense for a room beyond $1k per month. what is RTAG ?

RTAG is the Registrant Travel Action Group. They have a very limited website that reports on the travel experience of registrants. You can also submit your travel experience by filling out an online form

I did not see any travel related experiences on that website.

PW. If you go to Japan when you go through Immigration you will have your thumb print scanned. In about 5 seconds the Immigration officer will have your whole record in front of him. Japan is hooked up with the FBI’S NCIC criminal data base. Then it is up to him if he let’s you in or not. As for Singapore, they are setting up thumb print scanning in Immigration. They now scan at the ferry terminals and are setting up the scanners at the airport. And here’s a new one. Also when you get off the plane in Singapore, they now have facial scanners set up to scan the passengers. And I know this because I come to Singapore about 3 times a year and I am here now. And there have already been US RSO’S denied entry here because of the green notices. I am here to find my wife and children. They left me back in February because of IML. Our wonderful government will not let my family in the states because of the AWA so they are here somewhere in Singapore or a resort Island in Indonesia which I am going to tomorrow. My crime was 28 years ago. And I found out the jerk off court system we have in the US is supposedly that you are innocent until proven guilty but actually if it’s a sex crime you are innocent run out of money

How did you make it into Singapore if your a SO ? what is your charge if that is okay to ask ? yeah i hear lots of different things about japan. one friend of mine told me there is no international database where your info pops up on scanning your passport. he works in the airline industry. the government tyranny sends off info about you heading to the country and then they wait for you and your name and airline arrival. but yeah thank you very much for your input on this. do you know of any sex offenses listed for international megans law ? thanks.

I have been coming here in Singapore for more than 10 years. I have never been bothered entering. As of now I am in Indonesia on a resort Island. Three years again I was denied entry in the Philippines because I applied for a extended stay visa which triggered a background check. I was convicted of 3rd degree rape in 1987 by a girl I met in a bar who I did sleep with and then she tried to extort me for money which I wouldn’t pay. She turned out to be 15 and looked like one of the Kardashians. I am a Level 1 in New York with no designation. ( sexual predator, deviant, etc). I have 3 days left and my name is removed from registry. But i still wonder if I travel if i will be free to do it or still be slammed with IML

wow man. even back in the 80s women could falsely accuse you of rape. well let us know including me what happens when you get off the registry and fly over to a “high-risk” country for s.o.’s

I keep reading there is a Mexico-side law prohibiting RCs from being in Mexico, but I can’t find it. Is there a link to it, or anything? My brother-in-law just managed to travel without issue to Taiwan for a week with his wife, and barely suffered the inconvenience of a 1-minute “interview” for special processing.
Bolstered by that, he and my prettier-half swear I should just go to Mexico; what’s the harm, right? A slight delay, no worries. Right?

So… Any proof there’s a real risk, not only for myself (who is overly-cautious), but for him? As a side note, I feel he has an easier chance of travel since his was an “attempted assault”, whereas mine involved a minor (I was one, as well, but still…)
you will need to use a translator but this has more information. It did have an English page but not now.
Unless you enter by land you will not be allowed in. Also if you do not notify the US government, you will be in violation of the New IML.

“Also if you do not notify the US government, you will be in violation of the New IML”

If you live and are registered in a SORNA State.

All you need to do to comply to IML is to notify the Law Enforcement agency you register with of your travel plans. I would suggest sending a registered letter. Since IML has not yet set up procedures for enforcing the new law, most police departments likely have no idea what they’re supposed to do with this information, especially in non AWA states like California. I doubt local police will have any idea who to send this information to. But as long as you have a registered mail receipt, I don’t think there will be anyway to say you aren’t in compliance. Bur regardless of IML, Angel Watch will still send their notifications as always.

Someone else posed that very question in the International Travel thread. There’s not a law per say that makes it illegal to be a sex offender in Mexico. However, there is a law on the books containing guidelines on individuals deemed not acceptable for entry into the country.

It’s in the Mexican Federal Code on Criminal Proceedings. The statue gives immigration officials the right to refuse entry of individuals convicted of a serious offense. Most sex offenses involving minors are covered in the federal code. Examples include corruption of minors; child pornography; exploitation of minors.

So you would definitely have a problem with entry but even if your brother in laws offense didn’t involve a minor, the fact that he’s on the registry will probably get him denied entry

I don’t know about you, but if my offense is considered a “serious offense” under Mexican law, that would give me reason for pause when considering traveling to Mexico

“It’s in the Mexican Federal Code on Criminal Proceedings. The statue gives immigration officials the right to refuse entry of individuals convicted of a serious offense. Most sex offenses involving minors are covered in the federal code.”

Depending upon the individual circumstance, this Federal Code can be challenged through the Mexican Courts.

You definitely don’t want to fly-in, because once you are on their list ….

Does anyone have anything new to share about their travel to Mexico?

I know that someone had posted about being denied entry into Cancun for their honeymoon, but his post was misplaced.

Paul Rigney has also developed the “Mexican Travel Committee”

Is this Thread where we should expect updates regarding that?

My husband on October 12 got sent home from Cozumel, although we have traveled there before and to Jamaica last febuary and Cabo the year before that and had no problems except in Cozumel both times but the first time 4 years ago he got in, anyways my question is he is off the registry in 3 1/2 years will he be able to travel to these places when he no longer has to register???

Since he is already in the mexican database, that will be up to mexico at that point. If he gets off the registry in 3 1/2 years in theory the united states will no longer notify countries that he is traveling.

You would need to make sure though he is off the state list were he is registered and off the federal registration list.

With the new issue regarding passports being coded to show an offense that may come into play if the passport does show an offense. Not sure how that all plays out.

Once is he in the Mexican Migracion Database, it will be next to impossible to have himself removed

I invite all who have had problems entering Mexico to contact us at
We are a part of the Registrant Travel Action Group. Check the website as we are attempting to devise strategies and procedures to facilitate travel.
PK give us a shout.

Hi, so from what I gather here is that RSO can still go into mexico by crossing the border, then from there fly to Cancun, etc. correct? I understand I still have to do the 21 days notification, will that cause any issues? Meaning what do I tell them? I’m going to cross the border to Mexico and fly to Cancun, then fly from Cancun back to the US?

I see no one has replied to your question, so I will try….

If you walk across and present your passport, you will probably be denied entry to Mexico…it is possible you will drive across without being thoroughly checked…and then fly down to Cancun successfully.

I would however not fly Cancun to the US, rather reverse the process at the border.

To put a finer point on this, I would not attempt such travel at this time….in a year or so things might be considerably clearer…and between now and then, I am purposefully keeping myself off as many possible lists as possible.

But who knows? Just be aware than many, many people have been arrested or turned back by the Mexican authorities.

Regardless, good luck to you on however you decide, (though you now have a corresponding duty to let us know).

Best Wishes, James

PS The 21 day notice seems to make all of this even more problematic…but it is your decision.

If your in a state that tiers the registry and you’re no longer on it….

If you haven’t used your passport since 2008….

You think flying to Mexico is ok?

lots of helpful threads here for us RSo’s n this incredible travel ban, im writting to ask if anyone has any information on the border crossings in arizona. im a us citizen convicted of a sex assault misdameanor, (internet chat conversation with a minor). . charge was 10 years ago, however in 2015 i was denied entrance to mexico through the airports.. problem is my fiance is a mexican born nacional, and is unable to obtain a visa to get int the usa, i am planning on crossing the border on foot, and i am aware passport laws are constantly changing, im under the impression that anyone entering mexcio by land or by air will be denied>? by presenting your passport at border crossings along the AZ border will be I automatically be denied access? my reason for going to mexico is to marry the love of my life, but my registration is even preventing me from doing that. . . is there any recourse>? any land borders that are sure to give me a better chance on entering mexico? i would do just about anything to marry her. . .any help from people who have crossed recently?

Enter by foot. I’m not sure about Arizona, as I enter through Texas.

Marry your fiance in Mexico if you are able.

In most delegations you will need your Mexican Travel Document in order to get married.
However, the Mexican Law has changed, and this document is no longer a requirement. The problem is that most of the delegations who marry you, don’t know about this change in the law.

If you want a Mexican Visa, you have to be married. You will need a Mexican Immigration Lawyer, and it will take years. Don’t plan on marrying in the United States.

I’m in the process, have retained a Mexican Immigration Attorney, and I’m here to help.

In furtherance of that advice:

There was a Mexican Federal Case involving the Institute of Mexican Migration that was recently ruled and decided in favor of my Attorney and his Client, an RSO from the United States.

To make a long story short- It has been ruled that The Mexican Migration must provide due process for RSO’s or anyone who has been denied a Temporary Resident Visa. They can’t just simply deny anyone and everyone entry into Mexico, or a Mexican Visa, without providing them with an Immigration Administrative Hearing. This can of course be appealed all the way to the Federal Level.

So- my conviction was a misdemeanor involving a 16 year old who lied about their age. No sex involved. As it turns out, my conviction isn’t even a crime in Mexico. Their Federal Statute indicates a crime if less than 15 years old.

are you now allowed to enter? are you registering?

PK I would love to get your advice. Can you contact me We have been searching for a competent immigration attorney in Mexico.

My info may be really out of date, but the last time I crossed to Mexico in Arizona was through Nogales (2007) after parking at the McDonald’s on the US side, it was literally just a turnstile with no one checking passports, on the way back in I just showed them my drivers license and they asked if I was American.

I will also post this in general comments tomorrow but I have some information for those that want to travel or better live in Mexico. I have been on the phone with a lawyer in Mexico that speaks great English. He said what many know in that the travel restrictions are new and Mexico lawyers are looking for ways to permit their clients to enter. The lawyer that I talked to was a specialist in constitutional law and immigration. He said that it would be best at first to fine up to three primary cases where the RC has a very sympathetic case. Like public exposure or public urination or statutory rape. It would be better yet if the “victim” was an illegal or undocumented Mexican. Also a person who is married to a Mexican citizen would be another good case.
If you are interested, please contact me at

I have a mosdemeanor case of Indecent exposure. 45 days in jail, no public Registery, 10 total years in new reír system in California. Help me visit and eventually move to Mexico with my daughter please

@DM “no public Registery, 10 total years in new reír system in California”

Could you clarify this? Are you on the California Tier Registry or not?


Nobody is on the tiered registry, yet. What DM is saying is that, currently, he’s not on the public registry and once the new tier system goes into effect in 2021, he would be tier one and will probably have his 10years completed at that time.

However, if he’s at his 10 years now, then his status now is like being a tier one; he really should go for the CoR if that’s the case.

Not everyone who is an RC is on the public registry. Anyone with a misdemeanor (and very few felonies right now qualify as being unlisted) is off the public registry. Anyone who’s had their misdemeanor expunged is also off the public registry.

Sorry my phone must have still been using the spanish keyboard. But i have to register but my name doesnt show up for anyone other than law enforcement. i have a bottom tier offense but from what i understand the tier system for the length of registration isnt applicable here in Cali untill 2022. if i went to utah or any other tiered state it would be a 10 year register-able offense

I need help and some info….

I was given a week long vacation in Cancun as an award for 20 years of service with the company. Without knowing any better, I accepted it and plane tickets, hotel and other things were bought and paid for by the boss. Problem is, I have applied for a passport but even if I get it I know that I will not be allowed into Mexico since I am RSO, and the boss doesn’t know this. Yes, he’s an asshole too, and trying to change anything would result in stiff consequences. So I have a couple of options here. Take the week off anyway and let them “think” that I went to Cancun, or try this…. What if I were to fly or drive to Mcallen, TX and cross the border on foot. Then grab a local taxi and head to the Reynosa airport and hop on a plane to Cancun. Then I would return to Reynosa and then walk BACK across the Bridge to Mcallen and head home…. I would still have ID’s and birth certificate and anything else, just no passport. Any thoughts????? What can I expect flying between two Mexican cities being a white American citizen? Does anyone see any problems getting on or off of the planes in these cities since they are both within the country or any probs in Customs???????

What makes you believe they wont check you at the Reynosa/ McAllen border, walking across?

David H, anyone can WALK across to visit, shop or whatever, as long as you don’t go a certain distance into the country. I’ve read this many times here and on other forums. All you need is a Birth Certificate and DL to get back in, and you may get pulled in to secondary inspection for a few more questions. This is from CBP on the US side as I called them directly and asked a few questions

Not correct. Not anyone can simply walk into Mexico. You will be checked and your passport scanned by the Mexican Migracion at the Otay Messa Crossing into Mexico. And yes you will ALWAYS receive the secondary inspection treatment upon return to the US.

While I don’t have anything to offer on how to cross, it seems you’ve got nothing to lose monetarily since someone else paid for the trip. I say go for it. If you get turned away, tell the boss you’re Aunt Gertrude took I’ll and you had to rush to her side.

Good luck!

Nothing to lose? Nothing except his dignity and possibly his job. If he is met at the plane by the Federal Police and taken away then hes been outted…no way to just blame it on a sick Aunt! They are not subtle about this…trust me!

Once the US sends out the Notice on you, Migracion will receive it, then notify the Federal and State Police. The Notice that I have indicates that you “could” have contraband and should be searched. The Federal Police wait for you to exit the Gate. They might perform a cursory search of your carry-on, then take your photograph. They are very cordial about it, and will try to explain to you that you were just a “random pick”. They will probably ask you if you have been previously arrested for something. Then they’ll let you pass onto the Migracion Line, telling you “no pasa nada” like don’t worry, everything is ok in Mexican lingo. Then at the Migracion line you will be met again by the Migracion Boss who will yank you aside to their office, and give you the third degree.

You’re crazy if you think you can pull this off. It’s not worth it. your job, jail in Mexico! Maybe in a few years things will change but I’m not holding my breath. We are in lock down except for a few states. Go to Hawaii for ten days, Europe, New York for 10 days. Stay out of Nevada and Florida and a few other states that have a 24 or 48 hour notice.

If I was you I would fake an illness in the family or? and postpone your trip to Mexico and keep your job.

You need the passport. No further comment.

Randy –

Ask the boss if he is stuck on you going to Cancun or if he is open to you going somewhere else out of preference. If he asks why, just say you are not a fan of Mexico but would prefer wherever else you would like to go or after much thinking, you would prefer another destination, but appreciate the gesture of Cancun.


If the tickets, hotel, etc are in your name, pay a change of flight fee and go somewhere else on the tickets where if the hotel (or resort) is a one that has other destinations where you can go, change to one of them. Might cost you a few $$, but the avoidance of the hassle is priceless where you can enjoy time on the boss’ dime!

That is good thinking. identify the hotel in Cancun and find a sister hotel in the states or over in France or Spain. Re-book your hotel and fly to another, more hospitable location. Tell your asshole boss that Mexico is out of the question but that you absolutely appreciate the gesture. Man-up, take charge and have fun!!

Looks like I can change the flight plans but the hotel/vacation package cannot be changed. Will have to see what else I can come up with. THANK YOU to EVERYONE for the comments and advice. WE are truly brothers in a fucked up situation that only WE are subjected to. I have sucked it up and am dealing with it.

Why not just schedule a charter from a local Mexican airport. They don’t check charters like the FAA does here. You can hop border, pay for ride to airport, then do the same on way back, of course then you have to make it over “ The Great Wall “.

On April 14th, 2016, I flew to Guadalajara for a weekend vacation with my coworker who was from Mexico. When I landed and was just getting in line at Immigrations I was a approached by an agent and I was escorted into his office and he told me that the reason I was brought here was because my name came up in the system (the alert notice)and that they were directed by the US government not to allow me into Mexico. He asked if I had a criminal record and gave him an affirmative answer and explained to him briefly. Even though the agent was just doing his job, he was courteous to me and said that he doesn’t see me as a bad person or criminal, but said that our government is doing this and later on I waited and was returned back into the states. When I got back, I contacted the State Department, the Department of Homeland Security, even the FBI and nothing that they got on me except my past conviction that they know. I contacted my registration office and told them what happen and they said I was suppose to do a 21 day notification which they said was probably why I was refused entry, which I never ever knew about and no notifications were sent to let me know.

Later I did the notification for going to Lima, Peru, and on June 8, 2016, I flew on my way to my destination with my fingers crossed, and when I arrived in Lima, the same thing happened again and that I was refused entry into the country and sent back, when I got back I contacted my registration office and told them what happened and they said sorry about the experience I had, I hadn’t travel anywhere else since then after what had happened again. I learned about the RSOL and also about the IML, my wish is that someday that the IML will be repealed and the “Angel watch” would cease their operation, and hold individuals like Chris Smith accountable for getting the IML passed illegally.

Someone who attempts to go to out of the USA on travel and is denied needs to get a printout of the denial, a photo(s) of the printout denial and email the photo(s) of the denial to the states before coming back (so as to make sure it is back here before the printout is possibly confiscated by DHS on reentry) OR get a photo(s) of the denial screen if the authorities will let you, email the photo(s) back to the states and then delete the photo in case they decide to search your phone on reentry (which needs a search warrant by 4th Amendment).

Has anyone filed a FOIA on this yet?

I’m not sure if this would fall under Mike’s purview from the LatinAmericanTravelGroup?

I should mention that a request under the “The Privacy Act,” in lieu of FOIA, had earlier been recommended by Janice as being easier and maybe cheaper, too.

If Mike could weigh in on this, that would be great.


Even a text message(s) with photos would work. Just get enough photos of all the data you can within the time allowed to have access.

Airports globally have wifi or an international phone plan would work too. If you are close enough to the US border with Mexico, you may still get US cell service.

That reminds me: I was threatened with arrest by CBP at SFO Immigration for using my cellphone while being “secondaried.” Depending upon the country, that is something to keep in mind.

Good point. Hopefully, someone who is more sympathetic to the RC with where they are coming from (USA) and would be willing to give a peak at the screen or printout of what is being said. Each experience varies obviously but I believe someone is bound to break through what is being sent ahead of time.

I believe the Actual Notices get sent to Migracion Headquarters in Mexico City, then decisions are emailed to the individual ports like the airport.
In my case, I have a copy of the email that was sent by the Headquarters to the Migracion Supervisor at the Airport. I have a copy of that email, but not the “actual notice itself”.

Let them threaten all they want. They can’t stop you. I have even left the inspection to go pee.

Cell phones do work close to the border, but VERY close. That would be within a mile of the border. T-Mobile, and its now owned MetroPCS now have roaming included in its plans now. AT&T should have it now since their purchase of two major cell phone carriers in Mexico.

Hate to bear bad news, but 4th Amendment rights are severely curtailed at the borders. They may or may not need a warrant…SCOTUS hasn’t firmly said.

Did you contact your elected officials? If not, you should so they can query the DHS, etc to get a copy of the denial on your behalf and forward it to you. It should still be in their database of denials. At the same time, you can do a FOIA request on this info.

It is your right to know what is being said about you in their notifications to other countries. The senior state elected official (Sen or Rep) should be willing to inquire.

I have never tried to contact an elected official before but feel that it’s time to. I am in Dallas, how do I get started?

In a couple of weeks I plan on contacting the office of my US Rep and hope to make an appt with a staffer. I plan to talk to him about the IML, especially about the notifications.

It’s not going to change anything, the law is already established.

Perhaps one day we will hear about the possibility of a new challenge to IML.

Not sure what happened i’m off the database sex offender.. living in asia.. I just attempted getting into mexico.. was denied once passport scanned.. this is 2018 may.. i have made it into thailand and philippines by flying from other countries no green notice.. since i’m living outside the us.. Create a movement.. 1000 of us fly to mexico city on the same day.. would fuck them up.. its like what the blacks did.. if all of us change email or stupid legal shit overload the system.. read art of war grow some mofo balls and fight.. I do appreciate what has been done.. but there has to be legal ways we can attack the enemy.. sorry ex military.. this shit costed me everything

I think quite a bit of people on here are former military myself included.
With Mexico, if you’re not on the registry they may base it on criminal record in general. I’m not sure how many countries have access to the US criminal database now.

Last time I went there it was literally a turnstile you walked through Amidon the way back you just had to speak English and show a drivers license


You indicated that you were denied entry into Mexico after they scanned your US Passport correct?

You also said that you are living in Asia.

Could you elaborate as to which country you flew from to go to Mexico?

Did they send you back to the country you had just left?

“i have made it into thailand and philippines by flying from other countries no green notice”
How do you know that no Green Notice was sent?
Did the Immigration Agents in Thailand and Philippines actually tell you that they received no green notice?

PK, regarding “How do you know that no Green Notice was sent? Did the Immigration Agents in Thailand and Philippines actually tell you that they received no green notice?” I would say that, because we know that it is policy, and actually explicitly embedded within the laws of those two countries, then it is highly probable that they did NOT receive some sort of notification (wouldn’t have to be a “Green Notice” though) since, had they received one, they would almost certainly would have refused entry. By the way, the “Green Notice” is, in my opinion, kind of presumptuous in many of its uses here on our forum. We don’t actually know, unless explicitly confronted with evidence, when the notifications are Green Notices (and issued directly from INTERPOL) and not notices from the U.S. We also don’t know with certainty how many different forms of notification, or database matches, alert foreign immigration officials to our presence. As you know, there’s a whole lot that we are having to find out for ourselves as governments are loathe to tell us. I recommend saying “notifications” here instead of “Green Notices” unless we really know that they are “Green Notices.”

I am looking for feedback on any successful legal maneuvers to enter Mexico. I am part of RTAG and the Latin Travel Group. We are trying to pool our resources and strategies to see if anyone has had some success.
Please respond if you have had any actual motions filed.

Marry a Mexican is about it.

I just talked to an Immigration attorney in Mexico. I was told that Mexico’s Guardian Angel program is an extension of the US’s Angel Watch program. According to the attorney, it is an agreement between the countries that requires Mexico to deny entry to Mexico when the USA sends an alert. This goes way beyond notification. The process here and in Mexico has lacked transparency. With the practice, the IML is only window dressing in a practical sense.

Hi All,

I just wanted to share my experience as my situation is slightly different to most on here. I am a RSO in the UK, a UK citizen and i live in the UK.

I was denied entry at Cancun almost 4 years ago when I flew in from London. Whilst lining up at Immigration, I was pulled out and taken into the office. I was asked a series of questions about my conviction by an immigration officer and 2 police officers. I was open and honest about my conviction. The officer had a report with my photograph on it – pretty much the same as everyone else’s experience on here. I was returned back to London on the same plane I arrived on.

Now, the UK does not share information with other countries about convictions unless they pose a threat. My contact in the UK confirmed to me that they did not share this information outside of our borders. The only way Mexico could have known, in my opinion, is that the US shared it. The US are aware of my conviction as i declared it whilst trying to obtain a US visa.

So it seems that not only is the US sharing information about convictions of US citizens, it’s also doing the same for other nationalities if they’re aware of it – completely unacceptable and outrageous.

Is there anyone else who isn’t a US Citizen who has been denied entry to Mexico?


Your speculation based upon your experience is probably true, and I would not be surprised. Keep in mind however, that the information on our travel is also being shared with Interpol, which is an international police force, and the information could be disseminated by them to any country of arrival. Just another possibility.

Interpol makes clear in their stated policies that any authority to share criminal history data is controlled solely by their respective country; if the U.K. is unwilling to share that data through Interpol then it will not be shared, according to this rule.

Interpol makes clear in their stated policies that any authority to share criminal history data is controlled solely by their respective country; if the U.K. is unwilling to share that data through Interpol then it will not be shared, according to this rule. Interpol has no independent authority to transmit such data through its network.

Sorry that this experience happened to you. It is a terrible experience to go through. I would encourage you to seek the truth of what actually occurred as much as possible. I have experienced this on three occasions visiting my family overseas. What likely happened to you is that a “traveling sex offender” alert was sent to Mexico in advance of your arrival. Based on factual information posted here and in the news since late 2012, it is likely that your government did share your information with a foreign country.

Recently there was a post here, a press release by Philippine Immigration that reported the Philippine government received traveling sex offender alerts from three countries – UK, US and Australia. If the UK is sending alerts to Philippines on their citizens then certainly they are likely sending to Mexico as well.

Also a couple years ago, UK and US DHS ICE announced a joint effort to share information on their citizens:

This is also evidence that UK shares data on its citizens.

It is unlikely that you will be provided any information as the actual alerts (which is just an email) are treated as protected information by the government – they call it “intelligence” which is a joke because as most of us who this has happened know this false information being generated for political purposes than any actual threat to foreign citizens.

If you have protected rights in the UK, maybe you have a lawsuit if you can uncover the truth. Many of us believe that the government is violating many civil rights and it will likely need resolved through the courts for this to end.

Best of luck to you in discovering and uncovering the truth.

So I was under the impression that walking in to Mexico is the best way to go in as a registrant. They won’t let my wife into the country because of registration, and I am saving money to move back to the country she is in which won’t be a problem because I have citizenship there. In the meantime we decided to meet up in Mexico, she will fly I will walk or drive. But now I am reading contradicting accounts of walking/driving to Mexico. Some say no problem and others say that they will check. Which is it? Should I cancel the trip? Should I give it a shot? Is it better to drive or walk? I know nothing is guaranteed I just need some advice, thank you.

I think that you’re saying that your wife can’t get into the U.S. because she is the wife of a Registrant, is that correct? If so, has she tried entering the U.S. as a visitor, i.e. temporarily? Is she from a country that makes it difficult to enter the U.S. as a visitor? Has she been refused entry previously?

I will leave it to the old Mexican hands to advise you on the current state of entry there. Obviously, flying in is completely out and you will be stopped and turned around at their airports. I have heard differing accounts of crossing the border by car or on foot and others here can report on that. I will say that, if it is still possible to cross a physical border at some crossing locations, it may not be for long.

Yes that is correct, she can’t come because she is married to a registrant. I was lucky enough to get a job that has gone really well for me but I will have to leave that behind to be together with her. We have a long term plan to get her over here legally… emphasis on long. But for now I am just trying to figure out this Mexico thing. I already bought the plane ticket for her but now I’m afraid that I won’t be able to pick her up at the Tijuana airport as planned. And then she will be by herself for a week. What a disaster that would be 🙁 Every time I face obstacles like this I wonder… how exactly is making me and my wife miserable protecting anyone?

OK, I am confused. My wife is from Mexico, she has received tourist visas many times since my conviction. Without any issues.

Would a circuitous route perhaps be a better answer? There are a few countries that aren’t part of INTERPOL…meaning there would be nowhere for USG to send a Green Notice, all while you’re (at least mostly) complying with IML.

That would cost more than my budget will allow. I’m just going to hope for the best I guess

Any recent reports of travelers being turned away from Costa Rica?
Is the Matrix going to be updated anytime soon?
What about adding a cruise section.
I’d gladly contribute if there were some attention to these issues.

Not recent but I was turned around in Costa Rica in 2012. They pulled me out of the line at immigration and gave me a paper stating in Spanish that I was being extradited at the request of the US government. This was not true according to immigration when I returned to the US. They told me that Costa Rica didn’t want to deal with the drama of saying they were denying entry and ‘made it up’ in order to get me back on the plane without a scene’. It was horrible and frightening as I had no idea at the time that my offense was being shared.

I have heard more than one RC that was returned from Mexico being told that it was by an international agreement that Mexico had to return the RC. Mexico’s interpretation is that when Mexico is notified by the USA, then Mexico is only doing what the USA has asked, that the RC be returned. I think this is Mexico’s interpretation of Angle Watch/Guardian Angel agreement.

Hi all, I have a question concerning entry to Mexico as an ex-registrant (de-registered).

Some quick background: When I was 17 I was arrested for possession of child porn in the state of Texas. I was sentenced to 9 years adjudicated probation and successfully completed in 2011. In 2015 I began the long process of de-registration and in January of 2016 I went before the judge and she granted my request. I am no longer required to register.

I’ve never been outside of the country. My friends want to take a trip to Cancun, Mexico over Thanksgiving week. I know that registered sex offeneders are not allowed entry into Mexico, but what about a de-registered offender?

I will be traveling by airplane, and my biggest fear is being turned away. I’ve heard many horror stories of this happening.

Should I be worried?

Also, pertaining to Megan’s Law – since I am no longer officially a “registered” offender, do I still have to notify law enforcement when I leave the country?

It’s so hard to find solid information, and I don’t want to make any mistakes.

Thanks you for any information you can provide!

Unfortunately noone can be 100% sure if you would be turned away at the airport.

I know that at least 2 of the Plaintiffs in the IML Lawsuit with Janice was no longer required to register, but yet they could not gain entry into the Philippines.

Perhaps to be sure, you could try flying to Belize or Guatemala, then onto Mexico

You do not have to tell anyone where you are going now The 21 day thing is only for people that have to register. Look at the travel thing like this, If you have a DUI or DWI on your record and you decide that you and a bunch of friends want to go to Canada on a fishing trip they will not let you in, countries have the right to decide if anyone gets in with any kind of record we all will have the crimes on our record so any country might not let us in Canada def not I think if you fly you won’t make it in but you will have to get info from people that have the same situation.

“the 21 day thing is only for people that have to register”
Disclaimer- that 21 day thing is also only for people who are registered in a SORNA State.

“Disclaimer- that 21 day thing is also only for people who are registered in a SORNA State.”
I wouldn’t be so sure about that. All citizens are subject to Federal law, it’s just that you can fall through the cracks by being in a non-SORNA State. In fact, I kind of wonder if one could get nailed by the Feds even though off the registry. Example: you live in a non-SORNA State and are allowed off the registry after ten years. However, the Federal minimum is 15 years, meaning there’s a 5-year window of Federal requirements beyond State requirements. So would the Marshalls meet you at your gate and arrest for failure to notify under IML due to SORNA?

Well Janice seemed to think otherwise during the phone conference. Although no one can be 100% sure of anything. RSO’s may be allowed into Schengen Countries today and denied tomorrow.

“Janice seemed to think otherwise”
That’s hardly rock-solid legal opinion or advice! I’d rather not be the one to find out the hard way. Granted, IML applies only to RSOs, so if one isn’t registered anywhere, then it makes sense (caution: sense doesn’t always apply in court!) that one wouldn’t need to follow IML. My fear lies in the prospect of some gung-ho USMS punks deciding to make an example of someone by parlaying the discrepancy between AWA time periods and State ones, using Section 115(a) of AWA as their ammo. Does the Supremacy Clause kick in, making one have to register the Federal minimum? Does the Commerce Clause kick in the moment one crosses a State boundary? (It typically does, which is how Congress federalizes pretty much anything it wants. Thanks for being weak on this, SCOTUS!) The answers to these questions are unknown, despite any laic (mine) or professional (Janice’s) opinion.

Maybe someone will be able to make a successful pre-enforcement challenge argument someday.

“Maybe someone will be able to make a successful pre-enforcement challenge argument someday.”

I have been hearing for nearly a year that Janice and Team were going to consider to file another challenge to some or all of the parts of IML. This seems to have fallen by the wayside, because changing the registration laws in California and Halloween restrictions are more important.

P.K., I don’t know. I have considered that Janice may have been waiting to see how some of the SCOTUS cases and certs would shake-out. This may well have influenced her decision to put the re-files on hold. Also, there is the issue of “ripeness” which Judge Hamilton claimed was one of her reasons for dismissal. By waiting, there may be a better case that could be made, at least for the passport identifier which is to be a separate filing.

In other IML news, Paul Rigney tells me that India is now refusing entry. I don’t know if they are refusing to issue us Visas, which are required for everyone to enter India, or refusing on arrival.

Well, it is a CA-based and focused organization, after all, so I would expect the focus to be on CA RC issues. As well, ACSOL is but one smaller group fighting Government at the local, state and federal level. To say ACSOL is outgunned in the finances is an understatement. It saddens me anytime we look the gift-horse that is ACSOL in the mouth. Janice, et al, are not employees, they are not required to do what they do, and I, for one–even as a non-CA RC–am quite glad they are aiding us in our fight. That they may not be fighting the ones that solve your problems or make your life easier in no way diminishes their altruism.

As I’ve posted elsewhere, *any* RC law that gets rolled back, whether it’s Halloween ordinances or IML, gets put in the win column on my tally sheet. How putting cities on notice that their wanton passage of law after law against RCs, because it’s good theater, must cease is anything but good, I would really like someone to explain. Does the Halloween fight help me? Perhaps not today, but it’s part of the chipping away at the schemes. Does changing CA laws help me? Perhaps not today, but it’s part of chipping away at the schemes. And to be clear, to me chipping away means not only repealing laws, but also culture change (i.e. public perception). For example, what do you suppose happens when absolutely nothing adverse happens after the Halloween restrictions are gone, or after CA changes to tiers? Though not explicit and/or immediate, the public hysteria will change. That’s part of how we humans operate. Another way? Culture change must go slowly. Slowly enough to allow people to adjust to change without feeling too uncomfortable. Or as a colleague of mine said years ago, “disappoint them at a rate they can tolerate.” ‘Nuff said.

“Janice, et al, are not employees, they are not required to do what they do, and I, for one–even as a non-CA RC–am quite glad they are aiding us in our fight” “That they may not be fighting the ones that solve your problems or make your life easier in no way diminishes their altruism.”

I’m glad that they’re aiding us in our fight as well. What probably doesn’t make a lot of sense to a lot of people is that she went around asking for donations specifically for a lawsuit against IML. She encouraged people from this Group to write letters to Lawmakers and the President. Then to simply abandon the issue without informing the group about the status, is somewhat ingenuous in my opinion. It’s not ‘just’ my problem as you eloquently put it, there are other motivations at play here as to why this IML Law was initially challenged.

Then get off your duff and file your own lawsuit(s). It can be done, with or without (see: mike r) the aid of an attorney. ACSOL asked for money to challenge IML. It did that, and the lawsuit was dismissed. That the outcome was not what anyone on our side wanted does not mean the money was disingenuously solicited. That the outcome from contacting Congress and the White House was futile does not mean the request was disingenuous.

Again, if you want your problems solved, in the manner you want them solved, get moving. After all, nobody cares as much about (generic) you and your problems as you do. But if accepting the help of ACSOL, accept the help it is able to give. Demanding anything more than they’re able to give is selfish.

There was a SMART Dispatch bulletin issued a year or so ago that stated they (Federal office) were not “legally authorized” to accept travel notifications directly, and that notifications had to go through the local registering jurisdiction. If the federal government can not accept it and your state does not either, then there is no way to make travel notification.


I’d say as long as you have done an effort to do a notification and have that proof on you, then you’ve done what you can. The rest is out of your hands.

This is wrong information. I live in CA and tried to travel to Paris. Janice recommended as a courtesy I contact my registering precinct 21 days in advance to let them know. I did, and they told me oh no, you MUST do it, and here is the forms you have to fill out and we HAVE to file. I was informed it is now mandatory in CA.

Not denying your experience, but did it occur to you that the officer(s) at your police department were telling you — what do they call it. Oh, yeah. — A LIE? Or that they actually thought it was true, but is not?
Nevertheless, I gave 21 day advance notice on my last trip, and I would do so again, even if it is not “mandatory”.

In my experience, you likely don’t have anything to worry about. I traveled once while registered and once after deregistering. They were very different experiences. If you don’t notify local law enforcement you are traveling and if you won’t pop up on the active national registry when your airline itinerary is submitted to the Feds then there wouldn’t be any notification sent out. I think you are good to go!

Thanks for your reply, Spiff. You are the only one I have found that has attempted travel after deregistering. Can you give more details on how your experience traveling there was after your deregistration versus when you were registered?

While registered, I was removed from the plane when I arrived in MX and was sent back on the next plane out.
A year later, after deregistering, I traveled to the Dominican with no issue.

I have not tried to go back to Mexico yet since deregistering and am looking into that for more information (see my post below at the bottom of this thread).

“….the European Union in March voted to end visa-free travel for Americans in a nonbinding resolution. The EU, though, ultimately opted not to go through with the motion.”

Schengen or not, I imagine if we had to get visas, the visas may well be denied.

Very specific question for you de-registered folks out there (please don’t comment on this if you don’t have a personal experience to back it up—I’m tired of the hearsay and assumptions being made about this):

If you traveled to Mexico WHILE REGISTERED and were denied entry and went back AFTER DEREGISTERING, what was your experience?

All of these postings say Mexico keeps a database and that once denied you are forever denied entry. How does anyone know this?

I’d like to try going back but don’t want to risk embarrassment to my family and friends. I’m hopeful SOMEONE out there has experienced this scenario and can let me know what came of it. Thanks in advance for sharing!

Well folks, I never did hear back from anyone regarding my specific questions and scenario so I just decided to bite the bullet and find out for myself.

I flew into Mexico this past week and got in, no issues whatsoever!

So as far as I am concerned, there is no “BLACK LIST” in Mexico’s system.

Hopefully this reassures some of you who have heard nothing but horror stories and fear traveling now and in the future. Cheers!


Did you give notice as required by Fed Law you were traveling to MX? Sounds like you are deregistered which means you wouldn’t give notice. A little more spec on your travel prep would be helpful.

I agree that specifics should be brought up, as this is probably the first time this situation has happened, where an active registrant denied access to a country, was, one de-registered, allowed access into the same country. Hopefully, this was acknowledgement that the registry itself is being used as the cudgel, which would actually add lots of weight to Janice’s revised lawsuit against the IML appeal.

I am now deregistered and therefore sent no notice. No prep was needed besides I got a new passport since deregistering just to be safe.


Thanks for the backstory. That is very helpful. Don’t think anyone else here has attempted travel in a new situation similar to yours.

Spiff have you been denied entry before? Now you are off of the registry and attempted to enter again? What we have been told is that once you have been denied, you are on their black list.


Yes, I was previously registered and gave my advance notice to Mexico prior to traveling a couple of years ago. I was removed from the plane and sent home. I later found out my local registration jurisdiction is the one who sent out the notice via Interpol.

Since then, I have deregistered and got a new passport. I reentered the same country (though a different City/airport) and had no hiccups at all. Seems like no black list as far as I can tell.

That’s great news. Congrats! One more question for you: was your offense involving a minor?

Thanks, Laura!

Yes, the original charges were Internet Sexual Exploitation of a Child, which were dismissed/deferred after completion of probation.

I just returned from my trip to Cancun and have some very promising news for those that are looking to de-register or will one day be off the registry.

My offense was possession of child pornography. I completed deferred adjudicated probation in 2011. I completed the de-registration program in the state of Texas in January of 2016. I’ve been of the registry ever since.

I was pretty confident there would be no travel notification sent since I’m no longer on the registry, but I was still worried because Mexico has stated that those “convicted of a serious crime” could still be refused.

I gave myself about a 50/50 shot of getting into Mexico and was literally terrified of being turned away. However, once getting there and going through immigration, it couldn’t have gone smoother. The officer scanned my passport and looked at the computer screen for about 5 seconds (the longest 5 seconds of my life) and then quickly stamped my passport. It was a great week in Cancun.

I have also read a lot of horror stories of people being detained on re-entry into the US, but that went without a hitch also. There was no mention of my previous crime and the whole process took no longer than a few minutes.

I searched far and wide for someone in a similar situation and could never find anyone. I hope this information is useful and gives some of you hope that not all is lost.

You indiciated that you de-registered in Texas. Is Texas the State you were convicted in?

I think the good thing for you is that you were never refused entry into Mexico in the first place.
If you had been previously denied entry, I don’t think the fact that you had subsequently de-registered would have changed the issue that you were once denied entry into Mexico, and you would then remain on their Deny Entry List.

Yes, I was convicted in Texas.

I should have also mentioned that I’ve never attempted travel to Mexico previously, so there’s no way that I could have been flagged in the Mexican database as some others have suggested.

I was previously denied entry into Mexico and went back this week and got in no problem. I’m not so sure there even is a “Deny Entry” list in Mexico.


You said you got into Mexico this time without a problem.

But did you pass through Immigration and get a Tourist Visa?

I went through the standard immigration line in Mexico but did not get any special VISA for the trip.

I’m not clear at all what you mean by “standard migration line” to Mexico.

A Tourist Visa isn’t a “Special Visa”. It is something that they give to everyone who passes into the Mexican Immigration Office, and it is usually valid for ip to 180 days.

There most certainly is a way for the Mexican Immigration Officials to see if you were previously denied entry.

It would appear that you did not pass through the Mezican Immigration Office when you entered into Mezico.

That’s wonderful! Thanks for the report, and glad you had a great (well-deserved) vacation

I have a misdemeanor indecent exposure conviction that didn’t involve minors and am currently a RSO in Cali. Most likely for only another 8 years. I lived in Mexico before and had a green temporary resident card. Do you think I would be able to visit again before my registry is done? First conviction, non violent, no minors, just indecent exposure

I am not any kind of an expert but I will say that everything I have read about Mexico is that if you are on ANY SOR registry they will not let you in. RTAG would be a good place to find out more

I was falsely accused of 1 count of 288a Lewd and Lacivious act under the age of 14 in San Diego back in 1985 at 23 years old, happily married three children and a beautiful wife, level III engineer Central Office Telecommunications. Never had any convictions or felonies in my life before or after, now I am 58, still have to register every 90 days and considered a tier 1 registrant can not find gainful employment, background checks take care of that right away. I was convicted on double hearsay evidence in court and cohearsed into a plea bargain deal as they threatened my wife while I was in county jail to take the children away. I went completely insane during that time that the fact law enforcement came into my home , interrogated myself and family from a conversation my apartment manager overhead from other children playing in a sandbox with my children while I was at work. They took me to jail and my family lost everything we worked so hard to build our lives and raise our children the best we knew how. Who are these people playing God and destroying the lives of innocent people forever. I spent 10 years total incarserated, got out tried to rebuild had a few decent jobs until Homeland Security went into effect, I just have had enough to where I just don’t care anymore, I am the nicest guy in the world, always helped other people never asked for anything in return, talk to my children when I can reach them, they understand their Dad is the best Dad there is. The system has to change, guilty until proven guilty is crazy, now the passports, who the hell are these people, you never see the ones that create the insanity they are the cowards that destroy humanity.

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