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Independence Day

It’s July and in two days millions of Americans will be celebrating their freedom; but not us, because they have taken away our freedom.

These people will be rejoicing over their right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness; but not us, and this includes our families and millions of little children that have had their innocence stolen and their lives turned into a living hell because a family member is forced to wear the scarlet label.

In two days millions of Americans will be celebrating with friends and neighbors; but not us, because we have been turned into much hated and reviled social outcasts by the celebrants.

In two days millions of Americans will be going to fireworks displays; but I seriously doubt many of us would dare attend such an event with our children because “their” children will be present.

So many of us will stay at home (if we have one) with our families (if we still have or are allowed to have one) and make do with the semblance of freedom we have and try to give our children as much of a good time as possible with what we are allowed.

This doesn’t feel like America; at least not the America I was born into. I don’t feel like I have anything to celebrate. I feel like I live in a land of mad men, where my very life is in danger. The best I can do is to pray that change will come soon. It’s all I can do because I am a prisoner and can’t escape.

from General Comments July 2014 by Q

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  1. D

    This hits the nail on the head for our family. This holiday sucks for us. we used to parades and all kinds of events. now we have to set at home and try to find some way to help my teens celebrate, but not leave Papa out. <3

    • FRegistryTerrorists

      F that.

      Live your life how you want. I have been listed on the nanny big government Sex Offender Registries for nearly two decades. I have a great life.

      I find it useful to treat the Registries and ALL people who support them as enemies of America and good citizens like me. They are people to be defeated. And today I live a great life, with a lot of it coming at their expense. As I said, they are enemies.

      I live in a large city where I am never recognized by anyone. I go everywhere every day completely anonymously (but obviously, people that I associate with know me). I find it to be not only trivial but completely typical and normal. Do you not live in a large city? Most people do.

      I am having a party at my home on the 4th. There will be a lot of families here. At the end of the day, I will likely go to see some fireworks somewhere (haven’t decided) and I will mingle freely among thousands of people who have no chance of knowing that I am Registered. It will not affect me in any way.

      So take the life that you deserve. Don’t let the un-American Registry supporters get in your way. Run them over if you have to.

      • Q

        FRegistryTerrorists

        I suppose living in a large city does have it’s advantages for some registrants. I live in a small isolated town (approx 3500 residents)where anonymity is not an option. there is no such thing as melting into the crowd here. I’ve already been “outed” by a busybody neighbor over a resentment she had with me. (she was trying to illegally dump a king size mattress and box spring next to my residence)and I wouldn’t let her do it; mainly because it would have been the perfect rat’s nest, as well as an eyesore; not to mention illegal.

        Even though my activities are carried out in a “large city” environment, letting my registrant status out of the bag with the people I associate with is not an option because I do high profile activities involving large numbers of people; risking letting anyone know (people talk) has the potential to be very counter productive.

        You say something that caught my eye;

        ” They are people to be defeated. And today I live a great life, with a lot of it coming at their expense.”

        Could you please expand on that statement? Especially the “with a lot of it coming at their expense.” part?

        Another statement you make is equally interesting;

        “. Don’t let the un-American Registry supporters get in your way. Run them over if you have to.”

        I was wondering how you “run them over”. I realize some peoples life experience on the registry are different; mine has been plagued with unemployment; which has been the crux of my problem. My work skills are for an industry that seems to like background checks to be a part of their hiring process. I know there are many others that also experience this and I would venture to say your experience is more the exception rather than the rule in todays modern day and paranoid age,.

        I have had jobs while on the registry and I was actually making a six digit income until 2006 (I believe it was the AWA) when the laws changed and my job went south, along with the house and savings. I’ve had jobs since but they haven’t paid the kind of money I need to even cover expenses, such as gas, vehicle and equipment maintenance. I’m excluded from the ones that pay well because every company I have applied to requires a clean background.

        So, FRegistryTerrorists; I too wish to be able to say “F that” without having to drive 100+ miles one way to work or compromise my anonymity. I’m not the leas bit contrite about the “crime” that landed me on the registry because there was no victim (unless you buy into certain BS). I’m happy for you that you don’t seem to be experiencing any negative effects from the registry, but I believe living where I live plays a role in my situation and if you lived outside of a major metropolitan area and if your field of work required in depth background checks to make decent money you too could be having a totally different experience.

        • Tim

          Hi Q. To paraphrase the Supreme Court judge, we are not really being shamed, we are just embarrassed by our offenses. The fault is with us. Sarcasm intended.

        • Q

          Tim;

          I heard that!!!

        • FRegistryTerrorists

          Sorry that I have not responded for so long but I have been on vacation and I turned all this stuff off.

          Anyway, living in a larger city is definitely an advantage. It is quite common for people to not even know their neighbors. So if you are listed on a Registry and your neighbors know, who cares? You never have to speak to them or interact with them in any way. Personally, I interact with my good neighbors and easily ignore the rest. They wallow in jealousy.

          You can also start your own business and easily operate it with no one knowing you are Registered. Sounds like you may already be doing that.

          As far as the “with a lot of it coming at their expense” statement, let me just start by saying that being Registered is ugly and retaliating for it ugly. It is a war really and it’s ugly. But basically, I became a wealthy person who employees other people, own the places they live, and can exert a lot of influence in different ways. Long story short, I don’t feel like I have to act civilly to people who support the Sex Offender Registries.

          There are so many ways that you can negatively affect other people’s lives. I feel bad about it from time to time but then I just review the types of things that they actually did to my family. That renews my justification and resolve to harm them. I will give just a few examples.

          When you employ people, you may read or listen to any communications that uses your resources (e.g. e-mail, phone). You can feed/plant any information that you like in front of people and see how they respond to it. You can greatly affect their lives. For example, I and an upper level executive strung along a low-level manager for years about getting promoted. When he eventually got tired of it, we found out he was looking for work elsewhere so we demoted him. He then had to start explaining to potential new employers why he had been demoted. He is working a low-level, non-managerial position elsewhere now.

          Another good example is that you can own apartment buildings and move a Registered person into a building. I have done that many times, and often enough someone will think that allows them to break their lease and leave. Then I sue them for the remainder of the rent plus costs. I have won every time.

          I feel like the Registries have relieved me of most responsibility of being a good citizen. I don’t have to help other people. I am going to help myself, family, and friends, and it will be at the expense of people who support the SORs. They can labor for me and make my life better.

          Anyway, enough of that negativity. You talked about compromising your anonymity. I haven’t done that. But I never worry about that as long as it can’t harm me in any significant way (e.g. someone who doesn’t matter, like a neighbor, “finds out”). I do think the best shot for a person who is listed is to not look for a job but to create one for their self. I think you need to own your own business and use the SORs as motivation to make it succeed.

          Look at what SOR supporters have tried to steal from you. Look at how they harass you for a victim-less “crime” while not even talking about harassing people who shoot people with guns. They are idiots. Decide that it is not acceptable. I saw elsewhere that you are pissed off and that is good. Use it for motivation.

  2. mch

    I love my country but I loathe my government.

    • Q

      mch:

      Our government has utterly failed this nation. They seemingly refuse to protect that which they took an oath and swore to protect; our constitution and bill of rights.

    • td777

      Agreed, which is why as someone who has always loved my country, I will only display the American flag upside down, which means the country is in distress.

  3. Tired of hiding

    This holiday means nothing to me at all any longer. Freedom in the USA is a joke and there is nothing to celebrate. This country was sold out just as we have been sold out.

    I have no love for this country at all.

  4. Doug

    For what it is worth , I try to ignore the stigma , as much as I can .. I try to treat it as a handy-cap , or a disability that i have to live with and I choose to do it as best I can. I try not to put my family in situations that they are likly to beconfrunted by this thing , I find pleanty of places to go and things to do with out trouble. This is not to say I don’t feel , the bright red letter that i’m sure is on my forhead.. I just don’t look at it more than i have to. Prehaps for me , one of the hardest is the inability to make new , or close freinds , knowing that they will eventualy find out my past, and then what . how do I deal with that. So I just don’t make new freinds. I spend my days finding work. and working . That is my safe place. it has worked for me for the past 30 +- years sence I was invited in to this club.
    Spelling , has always been a problem , School i’ve heard is not an option.

  5. Rob

    Unless you are on parole or probation, NO ONE needs to feel left out of anything. I hate to sound negative, but WAY too many people on here fall into the trap of “I am a victim, please pity me”. I too suffer through all of the “restrictions” from this horrible label, but I choose NOT to be a victim, and strive to live my life fully everyday! I have been fired from jobs 3 times, but have applied for 100’s of positions until I finally found another one. I have been off parole for over 2 years now, and I do WHATEVER I want. I travel, go to parks, the beach, I VOTE, and I live every day to the fullest! Last year at this time I had about $3 to my name; now I make nearly $100,000! YES SOMEONE WILL HIRE YOU if you keep at it! STOP letting these people win by feeling as if you are “imprisioned” in your life. THAT IS WHAT THEY WANT!! GO out and LIVE! Show them that YOU WIN, NOT THEM!!

    • MS

      I believe what you say is correct. Stop allowing them to make those on the registry feel sub standard. That is their label. Stand strong and stop being a victim and continue to fight for justice.

    • Q

      Hi Rob:

      I’m curious about how you handle the part about being a registrant when you apply for a job. Do you just not tell them and wait until they find out (fired 3 times) on their own, or do you handle that during the hiring process?

      I think most of us have more of a feeling of betrayal than self pity. I do not think I feel sorry for my self; but I do feel betrayed by those that took an oath to protect what has been taken from me.

      • Rob

        Hey Q –

        I understand how you feel. I have NEVER told any employer about my past, at the interview or otherwise. One company I did interview with found out about my past in the interview process, and I was still offerened the position after a lunch out with the president to expalain. I acutally did not accept this position, but everyone should know that NOT everyone despises us all. BTW, I was one of the “sting” convictions and have no “indentifiable” victims, IDK if this makes a difference in peoples’ minds. The 3 jobs I was fired from all found out at a later point. I was let go for lying on the application, NOT for being on the registry, which BTW is illegal. In my present position, there was NO applicaton so I have not lied. I was hired based solely on my resume and interview. I am now in charge of ALL HIRING for my company and every time I have openings, I hope that people like me may apply b/c we do not ask about history, nor do background checks. I recently hired a young man on parole, I only know b/c he told me. I was HAPPY to give him a job! No, I have not shared anything with anyone at work, nor will I ever. Feel free to ask anything. My best to you and your family.

        • JB

          Rob, while I truly admire your positive attitude would you please reconsider your use of the terms “pity” and “pity party? I have seen it in more than one of your posts. If someone is hurting, sad or angry at their position, their feelings are valid. Casting perceived judgment upon people for their feelings of hopelessness, which I do have quite often, does not help any of us. Please don’t take this as a personal attack, rather an encouragement of wanting to hear more of the positive outcomes of your situation. Let’s lift our brothers and sisters up because this is really one of the few places people like us can come to vent frustration and find support. Solidarity! 🙂

        • Q

          HI Rob;

          I’m wondering what you said to the president of the company as an explanation of your status as a registrant? After I lost my job in 06 (directly related to the registry) I tried and tried to get hired somewhere that paid decent $$, but even though I was qualified for the job I would get shot down because of my status as a registrant.

          I have to say Rob, that your post and a few others have been inspiring and I think I may just get out there and try again. It’s been a few years since I’ve tried but I’m not getting any younger and I do need to work. Before 06 I was able to work in places like ports, military bases, schools, malls and housing developments and such; places where the good money is. There was no identifiable victim in my case either; in fact there wasn’t even another human being, yet I’d still be viewed by many people as worse than a murderer.

          It sounds like your in Human Resources. We need more people like you in those positions. I don’t fall into the self pity category, as I’m sure some do. I think I fall into the offended category. What offends me is the fact we are lumped in with and compared to the few that actually are predators and serial sex offenders. I’m also incredulous and not willing to accept most of what is offered as true about registrants, because it’s not true, and as I’ve mentioned I do have a sense of betrayal (as we all should) by those in our system that pass and accept laws that strip our birthright of freedom from tyranny and oppression; especially when these people took an oath and swore to uphold and protect the very freedoms these types clamor to strip away from us. Thanks Rob, you give me hope.

          I still believe that much if not all of what I say in the post that facilitated this thread is indeed true for many people. Just because it’s not true for some doesn’t mean that it’s not for others. I also think this is something those having a good experience should consider.

        • Q

          Did I mention the pis*ed category? I’m also in the pis*ed off category too!!! 🙂

        • C

          Where do you live that you can’t go to a parade? Stop this BS of hunkering down in fear and shame. Unless there is some physical limitation, get “Papa” out of the house and enjoy life – it’s too damn short!

          Do you know how many people are laying in hospitals waiting to die who would trade places with an RSO in a New York minute? I’ll take RSO over a life threatening or debilitating disease any day!

          I could not agree with FRegistryTerrorists more and in some respects he is a man after my own heart. While I try to spend more sunshine than gloom, the best revenge on these a-holes that seek to hold us down is to live well.

          I am happy FRegistryTerrorists has built a successful business. Frankly I hate working for myself – I work twice as hard for half the money. I used to build server farms for web sites that served millions of users a day. What am I doing now as I write? Cannibalizing old PCs to sell for an extra few hundred bucks to help make ends meet. These are machines I used to set at the curb for the junk dealer. (Oh, to have back all those old PCs and servers that I junked!) On the other hand, I have more time to spend with my kids and I would not give that up for anything. But, I digress…

          Don’t let the RSO condition hold you back from living. No one is walking around with RSO site loaded on an iPad trying to line up faces on the site with those in the crowd. Google Glass and other wearable tech might get us to that point, but we’re not there yet, so get out and live people!

          PS – If someone could use an old PC please let me know so we can figure out a way to get it into our hands.

          Rob, if you could use a full or part time IT guy please let me know! 🙂

        • Rob

          Hey C –
          I am in total agreement with you on all of your points! The more we live “normal” lives, the more our “enemies” lose! As I stated, I have been at the bottom, and never stopped striving to live every day! I stood at the bottom off exit ramps of the freeway handing out resumes lsst summer – anything to find work! Now I am approaching my first year in this new position, loving every day! Yes, it can all come crashing down anytime, but if we all dwell on that, you might as well hang it up! As to your question, at this time, we oursource our IT to am outside comtractor. I will keep you in mind though for my personal needs. To everyone else, NEVER STOP STRIVING for the best! And thank Janice for helping us to get there a little easier each day. To the guy on GPS, I did that for 3 years and worked the whole time and NO ONE KNEW!!! I went to parades, movies and Dodger games with that stupid thing! I may have had an easier PO, but I survived that and YOU WILL TOO!!

        • C

          When I started my IT career in ’97 I thanked God every day as I walked into my office knowing full well it could all come crashing down. In 2004 it did. The Internet boon started as a blessing, then a curse.

          The hardest aspects of being an RSO on the public registry is the reduced income, not being able to attend my kid’s school events and the pressures on my wife. I know that alleviating the first will minimize the second two.

          It has been quite the struggle to grow and maintain a business where you can’t apply one of the best methods to grow: networking. But I do persist as it is all I have. I’ll gladly retrain if I can find a the career for which I don’t have to worry about being outed and, of course, have the aptitude.

          My company is a Managed Services Provider, providing IT support for small companies ranging from 5 to 100 users. We are a Microsoft shop and MS Partner with hosted solutions for Office 365, etc. Before I get too far into the sales pitch (too late!) if you’re not 100% satisfied with your current provider drop me a line!

          In the mean time, I wish you continued success.

        • Tim

          I don’t know maybe we already have a network. If I ever got big enough to need them (ha!), I’d try out your services.

    • FRegistryTerrorists

      Absolutely.

      As I said in a post above – I find it useful to treat the Registries and ALL people who support them as enemies of America and good citizens like me. They are people to be defeated. And today I live a great life, with a lot of it coming at their expense. As I said, they are enemies.

      I think all listed people should ensure that the Registries are worthless but also use them as great motivation to take a great life that you deserve. I let the Registries impact me as little as possible. I have used them to make me more successful.

      I agree with what “MS” said in response as well. Listed people need to stand up and be strong. Do not allow people to label you “sex offender”. I don’t allow people to bother me with that. If someone does that, I label them as a “Registry Moron” and know that I am superior to them. I think of Registry supporters as weak idiots generally.

    • NPS

      Agree completely. When I moved back to NorCal, the authorities were shocked that I had to register even going so far as to say that had it happened in their jurisdiction, they would’ve gone after the “victim”. They told me, and I quote, “just live your life. No one will be looking for you.” And I have. I go to parks, theaters, beaches, etc. because I enjoy an active life. I refuse to have the “whoa is me” mentality. It seems most have a paranoid delusion. If you know you’re doing nothing wrong and not attracting attention, then you shouldn’t have to worry.

  6. A

    I don’t see any hope in my future,
    How can I be thankful that I’m alive, if I’m not able to truly live?
    I am grateful to be out of the cell, but pained to watch as so many celebrate.
    My pursuit of happiness has been replaced with an ankle monitor,
    and international Meagans Law will never let me escape this.

    • Rob

      A –
      THIS is the attitude that they want you to have. YOU CAN HAVE A LIFE! I had a monitor for 3 years, worked every day (no one at work knew!) Although I am off parole now for 2 years, when ON parole, I went to the movies, the beach, Dodger games, Samta Monica pier, parades. NONE of this was out of my 50 mile radius. DO NOT let them win!!! It took over 100 applicatons to get my first job, BUT I EVENTUALLY DID!! You will too! STOP THE PITY PARTY and get in the game!

      • A

        every one of those things you’ve mentioned are now part of the conditions. Each one of those mentioned will land me in jail. and they just extended my parole from 3 to 5 years. no beach, no movies, no parks. just home, where I sit. this is it for another two years.

        • MS

          Ok A so you can not go to the beach, or a movie or a park without being in violation. There is still plenty that you can do. Just find it and do it. Don’t let them get the best of you.

        • C

          2 years? BFD. Find a life without those things for two years. Boo-hoo. How many people wish their terminal cancer were for only two years?

          Stop feeling sorry for yourself.

      • A

        Perhaps some clarification should be submitted. I was released in 2011 after a 10yr sentence at 85%. Upon release, I was given 61.00 gate money and boarded a bus to my county of conviction. 400 miles south of my family and support. within the first 5 months of my release, the hammer came down with parole. Zero tolerance and 25 mile radius. (It was the day after Diane Sawyer interviewed JayCee Dugard and was nationally aired). One minute late on curfew results in instant arrest. One month after the zero tolerance in parole went into effect, I was beaten in my back yard by 3 white supremacists that found me on the registry. The responding officers said there would be no case filed as it was only a misdemeanor citation. Yet, my face was shattered and I was hospitalized. Since I have been out I have been living off of student loans. I scored the lowest you can score on the static 99, so it’s now even harsher for others. I’m a “Passive” high risk offender. I went to one study group for class, and as I expected would happen, I received a phone call the following morning from my agent for an explanation of why I was there. My plea deal was for 3 yr parole, but the case records analysts aren’t going by the abstract of judgement, but by the court transcripts that have different offense dates.
        I enrolled in school and have complied with all rules and procedures even completing all classes for my certificates. I am alone down here and transfers to other counties appears to be no option. I started my own music production business yet, I’m not allowed to work in bars and clubs because of the “liability” factor.
        Parole now, is only different from prison in that I can go to the store, and come home.
        I’m really glad you were able to do all those wonderful things while on parole. But every one of those trips will now result in more time and even longer parole. Now every 290 has to attend a “therapy” meeting every week. mandatory, which includes polygraphs. The meetings are contracted out to a private company. failure to show or being late will result in an instant violation.

        Happy 4th of July.

        • Q

          Wow A!!!!!! That totally blows; chuncks!!!!

          I haven’t experienced much of what you and other recent parolees are forced to endure and I feel for you bro. I also believe everything you say. It seems like “they” want you to fail and do everything they can to insure that you do fail and are as miserable as possible until you do fail.

          When I was convicted my attorney said “you van win by doing good.” This has been difficult for me since 06 and I have stopped trying but I think I’ll give it another try. I believe things will lighten up for you once you are off parole. I wish those F-tards that assaulted you would try that with me where I live! They’d be in for a few surprises; that’s for sure!!!

        • C

          Hang in there, man. One day the clouds will clear for you. Just hang in there.

    • C

      You have to lose that attitude, my friend, or they have succeeded in breaking your spirit. You must adopt an F ’em attitude and one day that stoopid ankle monitor will come off. In the meantime, just tell people you are beta testing the latest fitness monitor!

  7. td777

    I am celebrating the day with several families, all with children. And yes, most of the parents know that I register and don’t care because they know me for me, not for my registration status. Don’t let the idiots win by causing you not really live your life!

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