With a sentence of 23 to 46 years in prison, sex offender ____ ____ will be incarcerated longer than some murderers.
But in a sense, his crime is worse than murder, according to a prosecutor. … “I say involuntary deviate sexual intercourse is worse than murder because you’ve got to live with it,” (Assistant District Attorney Pat) Broscius said. “When you’re murdered, you’re dead.” Full Article
What a load of BS! This is sort of hysteria that politicians use so not surprising that someone prosecutor would parrot the same line of crap however. I am sure you could ask any murder victim which crime they think is worse…what you think their answer would be…wait…you can’t ask them BECAUSE THEY ARE DEAD!
Think that points out the little flaw in this prosecutor’s argument without much effort needed at all. Give me a break!
Stories like this bother me. First of all the guy did not rape the girl, he did touch her or had her touch him. Secondly I would not trust anything the prosecutor says. I could probably go on and on listing every issue I have with this case, but nothing positive will result because there’s no way it would make a difference in the case.
Molestation = touching
Rape = sex/penetration
Murder = dead
If I had to choose one of those three acts that I would be forced to endure I would choose molestation. Then if that were not an option rape. At least I could move on with life after both molestation and rape. Heck depending on what other positive things existed in life I could probably move on within a few years. Now if I died, all potential opportunities throughout the rest of my life would no longer be available to me.
What the prosecutor is missing in this case is that the girl is living. Yes her experience with the man charged with molesting her will always be a part of her past, but she does not need to let it define her future.
To say that the victim will never be the same or to imply that a victim of sexual misconduct will be traumatized for life is a slap in the face to the victim. Time and studies have shown that a great many victims of sexual misconduct are able to deal with what happened to them and move on – leading well adjusted and productive lives – some people do not have a wish to be a “victim” their entire lives (to the chagrin of prosecutors and politicians) and refuse to allow what happened to them to affect the rest of their lives; by choosing to move past their “victimization” they are standing up to their abuser and refusing to let their actions play any further role in their lives.
Tired of hiding, ab, Austin.
Excellent comments from all of you.
Even a child would infer, essentially, the judge is telling the victim she would have been better off dead. What a way to start off the healing process for the victim. So you condemn her also to a life without hope and reinforce the dogma that if it involves sex, all is lost, both for perpetrator and victim.
To the lawyer how dare you say that molest or rape is worse than murder, can you bring back my aunt and uncle who was murdered over money and now they are not around to see there grandkids and nephew and yes molest and rape is bad but why don’t you move up the ladder on your own merit, probably because you can’t, I miss my aunt and uncle so don’t tell it’s worse than murder, obviously you don’t know what your talking about, maybe it’s like they say ” you know how to tell when lawyer’s lying? When he’s moving his lips ” things like that just makes me mad.
Now I really know we are living in a time where lies become truth by way of twisted people like this clown and the truth becomes a lie. A sex crime can’t be likened to murder because the parties are still alive. Clown girls logic is flawed. Why are lesser beings being allowed to destroy truth and america along with it; Oh yea! Now I remember, people are dumbstruck and will believe anything they are told.
Sex or death—which is worse. Give me some time to think about this one.
How about the Louisana 16 year old guy who was molested by the two 20 year old teachers, a three-sum. The kid had to tell his friends, The two gals are being prosecuted ,
I bet he thought he was going to die. proably scared for life.
Who’s the victims now ?
Jerry Brown, in a veto message this week talked about moral escalation. I think this is what he was talking about. Of course, it is the fashion for law enforcement to speak of every crime as if it was the worst thing they have ever seen. It makes them feel more important. And every military leader talks about the worst threat they have ever seen.
I feel a little sad for the prosecutor. If he thinks that sexual purity is more important than life itself, it means he doesn’t have much of a life. This is the kind of attitude behind “honor killings” in various backward countries.
Whenever there is a shocking case, it becomes an opportunity for prosecutors and others to proselytize their extreme views. What’s worse is the opposite, when a particularly disgusting murder becomes an opportunity to make assumptions about others not involved in the particular case, but share a previous offense. Say, the murderer has prior convictions for, say cp or molestation. Suddenly all offenders with these past offenses become likely murderers in the legislator’s mind, and penalties are increased for these lesser crimes through association. It the rule that one crime represents many and is totally removed from reality. This how penalties for lesser crimes approach those of greater crimes and will continue to increase until the moderating influence of the Constitution is applied and proportionality is restored.
Yes, this is what it has come to. A sex offense, ANY sex offense, is at least equal to Murder.
Please see California Proposition 47 for this upcoming election.
Petty theft or writing a bad check under $950 will be prosecuted as a misdemeanor UNLESS the defendant has a prior conviction for Murder or is a Registered Sex Offender under Penal Code 290.
http://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_47,_Reduced_Penalties_for_Some_Crimes_Initiative_(2014) – under “Official Summary”
And there you have it.
HystericalPuritanist, who I am not sure if he is being sarcastic in his choosing of his name, said “tendencies in its sufferers, if PTSD is a common result of molestation,rape or other sex crimes, the conclusion might be that sex crimes increase suicidal ”
Other sex crimes, other than molestation or rape cannot be worse than being murdered, worse than death. Because NOTHING is worse than death, including rape and molestation. And especially a hands-off offense, like being propositioned on the internet. But I repeat, Nothing is worse than death. This makes me wonder why DUI (( or any crime that results in death ) offenders whose crimes result in death are not put on a registry which is supposed to protect the public, because death is the worst outcome for a victim. But maybe I shouldn’t wonder this aloud, since Lifelock/ID Analytics is waiting to pounce on any new registries they can make some profit and create a more cyber-fascist world with, and I wouldn’t want to give them any support for this.
From a different posting, HystericalPuritanist says “justifiable for use of extreme prejudicial prosecution to protected classes. The concept of something being “worse than death” is very subjective, and so is…”
No it is not subjective. What someone feels is worse than death may not be worse than death. We need an objective standard for something to be worse than death. What a teenager/young adult/anyone thinks is “worse than death” can take on an “emo” quality and not really be worse than death, as nothing is worse than death. Their lives could improve whereas death/suicide is a permanent solution to a perhaps temporary problem. Cyber bullying , as horrible as it is, is not worse than death , even if the underdeveloped brain believes it is. We should not take the standards of the crazy guy from Santa Barbara who felt it was worse than death to have to see happy couples in love and see himself without a girlfriend, so he decided to shoot people and then himself. Elliot something I think was his name.