ACSOL’s Conference Calls

Conference Call Recordings Online
Dial-in number: 1-712-770-8055, Conference Code: 983459


Monthly Meetings | Recordings (3/20 Recording Uploaded)
Emotional Support Group Meetings
ACSOL’s Online EPIC Conference: Empowered People Inspiring Change Sept 17-18, 2021

General News

How Josh Duggar and Dennis Hastert could change the laws on sex crimes

Two days after former House speaker Dennis Hastert’s (R-Ill.) indictment became public, a small group of sexual abuse survivors gathered at Federal Plaza in downtown Chicago. The group, made up of members of the Survivors Network of Those Abused by Priests (SNAP), was there say thank you to prosecutors for exposing Hastert’s alleged crimes. Full Article

We welcome a lively discussion with all view points - keeping in mind...  
  • Your submission will be reviewed by one of our volunteer moderators. Moderating decisions may be subjective.
  • Please keep the tone of your comment civil and courteous. This is a public forum.
  • Please stay on topic - both in terms of the organization in general and this post in particular.
  • Please refrain from general political statements in (dis)favor of one of the major parties or their representatives.
  • Please take personal conversations off this forum.
  • We will not publish any comments advocating for violent or any illegal action.
  • We cannot connect participants privately - feel free to leave your contact info here. You may want to create a new / free, readily available email address.
  • Please refrain from copying and pasting repetitive and lengthy amounts of text.
  • Please do not post in all Caps.
  • If you wish to link to a serious and relevant media article, legitimate advocacy group or other pertinent web site / document, please provide the full link. No abbreviated / obfuscated links.
  • We suggest to compose lengthy comments in a desktop text editor and copy and paste them into the comment form
  • We will not publish any posts containing any names not mentioned in the original article.
  • Please choose a user name that does not contain links to other web sites
  • Please send any input regarding moderation or other website issues to moderator [at] all4consolaws [dot] org
ACSOL, including but not limited to its board members and agents, does not provide legal advice on this website.  In addition, ACSOL warns that those who provide comments on this website may or may not be legal professionals on whose advice one can reasonably rely.  
 
10 Comments
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments

THANK YOU for taking Eric Knights’ referenced article from 2 days ago and giving it a separate spot here. This Hastert business may very well ignite things to become the Nation’s new Statute Of Limitatations (SOL) “UNLIMITED” Law… But I can’t help thinking that the “prep” has ALREADY been done and just waiting for a FIRE like Hastert. I mean after Megan Kanka’s death ONLY TWO WEEKS passed by before Bills were presented to the New Jersey Legislature.. So off and running we go with a DEMOCRAT leading the charge (Harry Reid, lame duck) Could it be this is to… Read more »

Good article from the WP. Also, did you hear the one about JEB BUSH ?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/09/jeb-bush-1995-book_n_7542964.html

Questions: 1. Why focus on the statue of limitations? Giving free reign to everyone will cause more problems. 2. Does anyone realize the harm of publicizing sexual misconduct? People can and do move on after experiencing inappropriate contact. Not everyone is affected the same way . Actually if people want the whole truth then society must accept that not all illegal sexual activity results in harm. Bringing pornography into the mix creates more complications than most would willingly admit. Jurisdictions classify depictions differently throughout the world. What is porn here might not be elsewhere or vise versa. In fact I… Read more »

You are Quite right. The problem of seeking help through counseling is how therapist are required by law to report any dialog that you have with them if it regards any thoughts or behaviors deemed illegal. So, the whole purpose of therapy is to bring out issues and thoughts that may by their nature be viewed as illegal or immoral. The laws of disclosure therefore prevents healing and disclosure due to fear of arrest in doing so…again why do we have counseling if it’s not meant to be effective? The same standards are also applied to members of the clergy.… Read more »

You certainly have the right idea, Robert. The mandatory reporting laws, use of polygraphs in “treatment” and all the rest is NOT called rehabilitation, it is called CONTAINMENT. (by those who mandate it)
I do not understand how any ETHICAL “mental health professional” can participate in this One-size-fits-all travesty!
Could it be the steady government paycheck???

Note that both men, Duggar and Hastert, are presumed guilty. They are so guilty laws have to be passed right now to prevent them and anyone like them from doing evil. The same is true for the alleged O.C. serial killer cases, presumed guilty, pass laws based on that presumption. Lawmakers no longer believe in the presumption of innocence.

To: AB. I don’t know why someone gave you a thumbs down. What you said is timely and TRUE. THUMBS UP FROM ME !

“So many offenses in this country could be prevented by both a victim and victimizer going to counseling without any law enforcement involvement. I would even bet a greater understanding of sexual assault, molestation, rape and other offenses would be reached.” AB I agree, but I have discovered that most people employed in this victim/offender/enforcer complex want just enough understanding to make their job of controlling people easier. The rest of the population turns away in disgust, and are terrified at looking at the truth — who knows why, possibly because if one looks from a non-judgmental perspective, one will… Read more »

Two States East and Timmr, the underlying fact is that people are so vindictive in this day and age. When a 10-year-old boy can be listed as a sexual predator for life in the state of TX, you know pretty well what time it really is. Child molestation is one of those crimes wherein all one has to do is point a finger and accuse and the accused is pretty much convicted and sentenced before he or she ever steps so much as their big toe into the court room. It’s the Salem Witch Hunt mentality. Today, most would rather… Read more »

Even the guilty need to be treated fairly and given a chance. That statement shocks the sensitivities of people of all persuasions nowadays. As nvmike said, or something like it, Democrats are all for saving a victim, and Republicans are all for tough on crime. It all amounts to the same thing, punish first, ask questions later. In such a scenario, innocent people are bound to get swept up in the punish-fest. And yet, even the guilty need to be treated fairly and given a chance. People who are convicted of sex crimes have the lowest rate of re-offending of… Read more »

10
0
Would love your thoughts, please comment.x
()
x
.