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Turning Teens who Have Sex into “Sex Offenders” — The Story Continues

The front page of today’s New York Times features the case against Zach Anderson, a case you read about here three weeks ago. Zach is the 19 year old who met a young woman, 17, on “Hot or Not,” had sex with her once and now sits in jail. When he gets out next week he will spend the rest of his life on the Sex Offender Registry, and the next five years forbidden to go online. Full Article

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  1. NotLikingCalifornia

    The summary of this story gives the impression the girl is actually 17, which, of course, isn’t true. She was 14. I’m not saying this is fair or that he should be a sex offender or on any registry, but we don’t want to come off as misleading.

    • Moderator

      As we have done from the beginning, the teaser for on-line articles on this web site is a straight copy and paste of the first (few) paragraph(s) and the direct link to the piece. It is NOT a summary. It is possible that further details are revealed at a later point in the article. To say that this practice is an effort to mislead is, well, misleading. ***Moderator***

  2. USA

    I concur. 19 & 14? Big difference. How did they meet? I’m thinking he should have known better. In today’s world, people should know better

    • NPS

      Not really. You can’t give a broad generalization that there must be a huge difference between 19 and 14. That’s as bad as saying all 290 registrants are the same.

      If there’s one thing that is an all truism, it’s that adolescents are very manipulative, and in this era, many teenaged girls are very aggressive. Have you seen a 14 year old girl? They can pass for 20+ not just with make-up but also in development.

      I don’t know about you USA. If I recall correctly, you have an expunged record yet still have to register? It seems that this has made you to believe that you’re above all 290 registrants because you can legally say you have a clean record? Well guess what. You’re still in the same boat. And in the eyes of the law, you’re no different.

      I, too, have an expunged record and I’ve passed pretty much every background check for a nice apartment in an upscale community and for gainful employment. I’m not publicly listed, and the L.E. leaves me alone. At the airport, I’m allowed to bypass the TSA inspection (no more waiting). But I also don’t forget that until I get a COR, I’m still subject to 290 registration and there is always a slim chance that there could be some ladder climbing, gung-ho police officer that could violate me simply because it makes them look good.

      All of these senate bills that are going before the public safety committee will not affect me one iota, but that doesn’t mean I stop writing letters and making phone calls. It also doesn’t give me free license to criticize or judge anyone. I suggest you step down from your DIY pedestal and knock off your holier than thou rhetoric.

  3. Timmr

    You know I should have known better, and if I had listened to that, I wouldn’t be here now. Many people in jail should have known better. In fact, if this was my daughter, I would have told her, she should have known better. Yet, the guy didn’t jump out of the bushes and force himself on her, or held her at knife point or beat her up. How come this guy is treated like those who do these things, and gets the same life time shaming sentence that supposedly was meant for those who do these things?

  4. USA

    Well, I’m not really sure how to respond to NPS. First, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Your response was both very defensive and it sounds like you have difficulty with others views. As we are all aware, one of the reasons this site exists is to alter the views that so many have regarding registered citizens. As such, we are all aware everyone has a different perspective. It’s certainly true that there are a lot of 14 year olds who look and act much older than they are. Although, the law the the law. I would imagine most 19 year olds in today’s world are aware of the laws as well. So, I find difficulty in thinking that they just jumped into bed with one another. In summary, I would also imagine this wasn’t just a one time thing. That’s my opinion. My other opinion is that you must believe that having intimate relations with an underage girl is appropriate. The law is the law! Now, without knowing the full details, I don’t think it’s appropriate for the young man to register for life, unless there are dire circumstances none of us are aware of. Was this his first time? Does he have a history of doing this? In conclusion, all cases aren’t the same and that’s my opinion. Thank you!

    • wonderin

      First, everyone is entitled to their opinion.

      I would have to disagree with that on any site that uses thumbs down to discourage unpopular viewpoints.

      • NPS

        What people seem to forget is that opinions need to have some sort of basis of factual knowledge; none of which USA demonstrates. I love how USA claims to have so much knowledge of where I stand, how I feel, and what I find acceptable. I just don’t like misinformed, generalized statements.

  5. anonymously

    NPS said “All of these senate bills that are going before the public safety committee will not affect me one iota…”

    Including Prop35/SB 448?

    • NPS

      Prop 35 doesn’t affect me or anyone. It’s been ruled unconstitutional. So my answer is no.

      Based on that decision, I don’t expect SB 448 to pass. I’m not worried.

  6. mike r

    Excellent post timmer.
    Yet, the guy didn’t jump out of the bushes and force himself on her, or held her at knife point or beat her up. How come this guy is treated like those who do these things, and gets the same life time shaming sentence that supposedly was meant for those who do these things?
    That’s exactly the point that needs to change there needs to be some difference to these acts. Although still illegal in our country there is a huge difference between the type if offenses but we are all treated as if we were stalking and praying in children by means of force or coercion which simply isn’t true.

    • Timmr

      Proportionality is defined by the Merriam Webster Dictionary as “corresponding in size, degree, or intensity.” Sex offender laws have evolved away from this principle to a good/bad only two sided thinking.

  7. USA

    Well, I’m not sure what to say. You can certainly realize someone’s educational level by reading their responses. If you don’t agree with their views, they thrash you and state your narrow minded and have no basis. Yet, they provide input regarding its not like the guy jumped out of the bushes? NPS becomes both angry and hateful if someone disagrees with him? He dislikes! Maybe this is the reason why he is on the registry. Perhaps he has a control issue? Or, maybe people shouldn’t provide conflicting viewpoints because his views are always correct? My opinion is that anyone with any intellectual capital would be open to others opinions even if they agree or disagree. I respectfully disagree with your opinions and I believe and feel you think it’s okay to have sexual relations with a 14 year old. Blame it on the girl/dress was too short/too much make up! It’s all her fault! Or, maybe it was consensual? Maybe he was drunk? The bottom line is that ALL of us don’t know the facts, but we are entitled to our opinion. NPS, you have control issues and I suggest you get counseling!

  8. NPS

    USA says, “Well, I’m not sure what to say”

    Then maybe you shouldn’t say anything. Perhaps you should refrain from speaking about what you know nothing about. You make lots of assumptions about me; none of which are rooted in any kind of fact and quite honestly, I don’t have to justify myself to you. It sounds like you’re the one who is angry and it is you who doesn’t like when people disagree with you. You certainly have a lot of negatives by your posts. I think most folks on this board know you are F.O.S. Know when to quit because I’m done with you. You’re just not worth my responding to.

    But if you’re in the Bay Area, please do come to Berkeley because I will be there. And I GUARANTEE if/when you meet me, you will be floored, and you will find yourself to be a fool.

    I won’t hold my breath for an apology.

  9. USA

    Your right, I’m blown away by your wanting to judge others, but yet you are quick to respond when others judge you. I would imagine your probably educated, gay, single, a perfectionist and have a superiority complex. I also imagine you where convicted of a child related offense. You scare me

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