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It took 9 people being slaughtered by a deranged individual hellbent on sending a message of his hatred against a segment of society. This subsequently changed the views of lawmakers on the Confederate Flag.

What is going to be the turning point, or watershed moment for sex offenders?

“What is going to be the turning point, or watershed moment for sex offenders?” I wish I could answer that, but I don’t know. I’m pretty sure that it’s not going to be registrants and innocent family members being slaughtered in their homes because the government plasters all their personal information on the internet, or suspects in jails being murdered by some cop using inmates as his murder weapon. I’m pretty confident about this because allot more than 9 registrants, suspects and innocent family members have been murdered and nobody other than us seem to care. In fact these murders… Read more »

Exactly! The media and lawmakers don’t WANT to report registrants and their families getting harassed, murdered, property damage etc., out of fear of a paradigm shift. It’s a willful silent genocide with no end in sight. It’s all part of the less-than-zero sympathy, “I care only about the victims” mentality. The rare instances of something happening making the news, the public responds with the predictable: “Good riddance!” or “They had it coming..” or “One less pedo in the world.”

No; I think a more accurate description would be “lying.” If these politicians and everyone else associated with these un-american laws which harm so much and so many told the truth their little soapbox they use to advance their careers would be gone.

I’ve asked the question “how stupid do people have to be to believe these people.” I think pretty stupid, as John Q public can’t seem to be able to tell when they are being lied too.

There will be none. Sex offenders are more hated that atheists (I happen to be both). The conditions are going to continue to get worse and there will be no effort made to make distinctions between offenders and predators. It would take explaining facts to the public which we all know politicians do NOT want as it makes them less easy to control with simplistic scare tactics. So I do not see any hope. In fact, I see sex offenders as one of the last minorities that it is still politically correct and accepted to bash verbally and even physically… Read more »

Agree that conditions will get worse, but I have no crystal ball looking into the future to tell me there will be no change at some point. You seem to be saying this is not going to be a cake walk to which I also agree. The information I have is that there are people that don’t believe the lies. My wife is one of those average Joes, or rather Janes, and when I went to the protest in Carson, I found that the majority of people there were women, maybe some offenders among them, but I assume they were… Read more »

Sometimes I wonder with all this public discourse over the Confederate flag and now the immigration issue, will anti-SRO laws be put on hold? Out here in San Francisco, the young woman randomly shot and killed at Pier 14 has been dominating the headlines with a lot of the vitriolic acid spewed at undocumented Mexican immigrants (the constant pariah). Is it possible, then, that the political focus would shift away from creating illegal SRO bills with the politicos jumping on the anti-immigrant bandwagon to increase votes?

Actually I see discrimination as legion. A more tolerant society tends to not look for groups to scapegoat. Look at that often used example, the Third Reich, they started with eliminating some criminals nobody liked anyway, then it just kept spreading, the deformed, mentally challenged, LGBTQ’s, Jews, Gipsies, Communists, Poles, and who knows where it would have ended if not for the war.

@ NPS,
Doubt that RSO laws will diminish or be put on hold because they’re generally a slam dunk re-election vote for the tough-on-crime-when-it’s-time-to-vote crowd. They’re just trying to add yet another boogeyman.

To NPS: I looked up 1994’s Calif Prop 187 making illegal aliens ineligible for public benefits. I didn’t realize the Federal court case has never been dismissed. The permanent injunction is still in place, and the case has never proceeded to trial. Maybe the scraggly Republican sore losers are lurking behind the pier 14 hoopla. I certainly agree with you about hoping something takes the pressure off us. Thank God that back in 1994 the Bay Area voted against prop 187. The rest of the state voted for it. I’m thinking more like a National Enema Month to occupy the… Read more »

Actually the 9th circuit ruled Prop 187 as unconstitutional. There was never an appeal making the law null and void. In fact, the governor at the time (Davis) pretty much hammered the final nail in that coffin when he halted any appeal. I did some research and apparently there was a senate bill (396) almost a year ago removing the unenforceable sections of 187. So it’s dead and buried. With the recent events in San Francisco, there is a lot of national media attention on how to move forward with this. Who knows. They may just excavate this. Supposedly there… Read more »

compare Calif Prop 187 with Calf. Prop 83

in both vote S.F. country seem to be standing out here.

I m not a stats but just wanted to point this out..

Is this the Edward Snowdon Warned All Act of california…

I see hope in mark leno I was watching him debate the minimum wage bill and he is very intelegent and seems to rely on facts and data

Anyone know what the “Flag Record #” is/means on the reg receipt?

Torified, when I did my annual registration recently, I was asked to complete a duplicate form for the State auditors who were auditing the program. (Before anyone gets too anxious about a State audit, let me tell you from experience that it is standard government practice to audit programs that are funded by taxpayer dollars. Most of the time, the auditors want to find out if the agencies implementing the program – in this case, local law enforcement agencies – are doing so accordingly, completing all forms in a thorough manner, copying down details accurately, etc. This, their focus is… Read more »

What County/city are you in? I have no such box on my receipt.

Thanks, Harry. It could be a local BPD thing. So far Google isn’t helping.

David, audits are good. They get down to the facts.

I’m not sure. However, all sex offenders’ criminal records are flagged for fast and easy access to a list of all sex offenders. California did that from way back, and in the 1990s, the federal government organized all states on criminal records and had them all flag all sex offender criminal records. Possibly that flagging on you record is all that refers to. I’m not sure how California flags them now, but in the past they added a big line on them saying “Sex Offender.” That’s about the first thing anyone looking at that record will see, and it makes… Read more »

You’re on to something. I think it is a DMV cross reference. No proof yet though.

Well, what I was saying is not tied to your DMV record. I;m not sure why you mentioned that. When I referred to a cop pulling you over for a traffic offense, they have computers in the cars now, and they can look up your criminal record, not just your DMV record.

Some RC’s can’t get certain DLs and that is listed in the DMV. So they all MIGHT be listed there and only certain ones are banned from driving an ambulance, for example. That’s what I was trying to say.

Well, I’m not sure, but I don’t think the DMV keeps any such record. I think they simply file for a record check when you want something, use that for their actions at that time, and don’t keep it on file. Any time they review you they have to check, because something might have happened since they last checked, and not just a conviction but also something like a COR or even pardon, or maybe an reversal on appeal. I’m sure they don’t keep a running record, and I doubt they keep an old one. The cops who pull you… Read more »

Does anyone know of anyone who got off the website? I have a 311.11A and I think my probation report from 6 years ago will say they were younger than 16. What are my chances of getting off the website?

Worse than they might have been a year ago. Now, Kamala Harris is in a campaign to be US senator, and she’s not going to do anything that gets anyone complaining about her being easy on sex offenders. Not that she’s ever done us any favors.

The “treatment” facility I’m forced to attend as a condition of parole appears to have lost their state contract 3ish weeks ago. Anybody have any news on this?

I don’t have information for you NotLikingCalifornia, however, I would be interested in knowing more about the facility in question. I have substantial issues with the techniques of “treatment” these providers get away with.

What would you like to know? Basic structure is twice a week, 75minutes each, in a small (10-12ppl) group of sex offenders on parole and a group leader (psychologist). Additionally, there is an hour one-on-one meeting with the group leader monthly. Every 6-12 months there is a polygraph test. When admitted to the program, you do a one-on-one interview that is basically history, case factors, etc. Additionally, you take an ABEL test, which is a computer test that is designed to test for attraction to minors (theory is that you will unintentionally spend slightly longer periods of time looking at… Read more »

I know some of you might be tired of seeing this motion in different stages of completion but I like to share my thoughts and stratagies that I will eventually file in the CA courts. So any feedback is great. This court has jurisdiction because ________________________________________________________________ I the plaintiff  ______________________do hereby bring forth this motion for Declaratory and/or Injunction relief. This motion is being brought forth as a as applied challenge to the constitutionality of the sex offender registration and notification laws or Megan’s law (CA Penal Code § 290, Sex Offender Registration Act) as applied to me. Introduction. I… Read more »

What do you do when the fight is gone? I see small victories, little battles being won, but there is a continual beat-down of registered citizens and I’m so tired. We have a victory and a new law is passed to snatch it away from us. I really just want to run away somewhere. Too old to start over, too tired to keep working 60 hrs a week for basic sustenance. I’m sentenced to a lifetime of this crap and doomed to die as a registered citizen with no real allegiance to the country I fought for. So freaking depressing…What’s… Read more »

@mch: doesn’t the 1203.4 help with a job? It’s expunged and won’t show up. Unless you’re on the public website, you should have a LOT more opportunities for jobs.

Thanks for the encouragement Quint. I’ll keep fighting. I have a steady income, barely livable, but steady. At age 65, not too many will hire a man in my situation.
Every day I am compelled to give back to society to make up for my one bad choice in life. I just would like to see an end to it all, for everybody.

Actually, Quint, you are mistaken. They will get the previous expunged case. The whom? The record remains, it simply is noted on it that it was dismissed pursuant to 1203.4. The record is not erased, it is not as if it no longer exists, the word Conviction will remain to be seen but will be followed by a line noting the 1203.4 relief. My long story — sorry, got carried away, but some might find the info interesting: And the courts now say it is not even an expungment, that “the conviction remains,” the person is merely relieved of certain… Read more »

Curious, so 1203.4 used to grant relief from registration? But nowadays, it isn’t. Well, isn’t that adding more penalties for an SO? And isn’t this proof of added punitive damage? ” The main Golden State statute that applies to these types of awards is California Civil Code Section 3294, which states as follows: “In an action for the breach of an obligation not arising from contract, where it is proven by clear and convincing evidence that the defendant has been guilty of oppression, fraud, or malice, the plaintiff, in addition to the actual damages, may recover damages for the sake… Read more »

Addicted to this web site
Does any one else find them selves tuning into this site more than any thing else?
Is therapy needed ? If it were a porn site I would expect a knock on the door.

Doug, yes, i check tge website frequently

General legal question: How are RCs – or anyone else for that matter – expected to be aware of and obey new laws when we are never notified of those new laws?? When I did my annual registration recently, the signature block at the bottom of the form states something about acknowledging 290 regulations and any other laws that apply to registrants. But how are we to know any new laws? Personally, I have never received any notification of any new laws/requirements. Maybe its about time for lawmakers to start notifying the public of all new laws, rather than hold… Read more »

They don’t care. They want to rearrest you. When it happens, they’ll just say ignorance of the law isn’t an excuse to break the law. It’s a shitty system, but it’s the one in place, so it is incumbent upon us to look after ourselves and others in the community. Hence, helpful websites like this.

mike r: you do yourself a disservice in the conclusion: The data in these three data sets do not strongly support the effectiveness of sex offender registries. rather “the data overwhelmingly proves the ineffectiveness of s.o. registries.” if you are doing this pro se have you considered class action? lawyers drool at those possibilities if you can substantiate your claims and show harm. I know, live on maui and my wife lives in sweden. the economics of being shunned and the social/governmental shaming keep us apart. registry is punishment. the struggle continues. solidarity, wes. nb. i am willing to edit/strategize/talk… Read more »

Timmr said “…Emancipation Proclamation was signed. Even months before that signature, Mr. Lincoln was trying to appease the slave states by strengthening the fugitive slave act and trying to convince blacks to go back to Africa (PBS series, The Abolitionists). In the 1860’s, everyone was racist. Lincoln had to overcome the prevailing racism, which he did. I never heard about Lincoln strengthening the Fugitive Slave Act, but I did hear about him supporting blacks back to Africa. However, just like Gavin Newsom did a 180 on the cameras on the street corners in SF, and just like hopefully Roberts will… Read more »

Just a reminder when you go in to get your mug shot. Wear a nice shirt and tie. Ask the officer to pretty please include your tie so the RC community will look nicer than the other group.

Wes those statements and all the report statements are verbatim from the reports.

I recently found this study on WAR.

I’m surprised that there hasn’t been any new posts in the last 5 days. There’s a lot of talk about SB448 that we’re neglecting to look at the bigger picture and find more articles/studies that would help build a case against the registry’s ineffective policies.

NPS,thank you for this report. My first conclusion from it is this: those existing programs that include some sort of human to human supervision combined with “helping” a former offender re-integrate into society, like the “Circles of Accountability Program” are more effective in reducing recidivism than the punitive, merely “let’s catch you and confine you” type of programs like GPS, residency restrictions and civil commitment programs, which actually cause more problems than they solve. My hope is to see reports like this tacked onto every legislative act concerning sexual offending, even those that indirectly impact former offenders like the recent… Read more »

Together we can do great this video and be inspired:

IMPORTANT!! The adult “dating” website,, has been severely compromised to where criminal hackers have obtained virtually every detail of every customer that site ever had, including sexual information, credit card information including home and business addresses, phone numbers, etc. This is not a moral judgment article, but one for legality purposes. LINK TO STORY: If there is ANYONE who have had an account on the website at any time, then do your best to recall all your interactions you had with that site for any reason. IN PARTICULAR, if you are listed on any sex offender registry,… Read more »

If money is the problem I’ll give you a job and training. Training is free and clients are everywhere…only catch is you’ll be asked to leverage this position to promote the fight for all of our rights in society. I’m training a few guys right now, but I’m ready to train others. The starting course will take place in your area with hands on one-on-one training. I am a registrant training registrants. Now lets get to work!

Can you be more specific about what training and jobs you are providing for? I appreciate the fact that you are looking at RC’s situations and helping them out. However, it does seem like a multi-level-marketing process, which is actually very difficult to achieve any semblence of an income for the amount of work expended. Thanks.

Eric please forgive my lack of information, but if the media got the scoop on this it’ll undermine our efforts. It’s a hands-on skill. No it’s not any kind of Multi-level-marketing scheme. While at the City of Carson protest recently Janice and I were talking she stated, “many RC’s do well to have their own business”…this is one of those business types. Oh, I helped leverage the community to get two officials elected, one state senator and a county supervisor. Note (hint) never under estimate the power of the mouth of a hairdresser! I’ll be at the meeting in LA… Read more »

Wot about those Republicans ? Goggle “handy list of republican sex offenders, the Constantine report”by Democratic underground, dtd 3/31/15….

I am sure there are Democrats on a sex offender list, along with BC

Anyone know what happened to the dude that started the Sex Offender Issues blog? Is he still running it? Last I knew there were a lot of mods there and I didn’t know if he was still there or not. Hope he stayed out of trouble and is doing all right. He was one of the first to start speaking up loud and clear and he took a lot of heat from PeeJ.

He has done some updating, however, not like he did before. Otherwise, this is all I know.

May want to post as a separate post…. Department of Justice FY2016 Sex Offender programs costs – $78 million Link: DOJ’s FY16 $28.7 billion budget is $2 billion above FY 2015, creating 2000 new positions. Some highlights: Note Pg 10. “ Investments to combat violent crime include resources for the U.S. Marshals Service (USMS) to investigate violations of the Adam Walsh Act and assists state, local, tribal, and territorial jurisdictions in locating and apprehending an estimated 100,000 non-compliant sex offenders. Funding is also requested to expand officer safety training for USMS operational officers and task force officers.” DOJ US… Read more »

Thanks for posting this. I thought that 100,000-missing-sex-offenders myth had long been laid to rest, but I guess not. That would be almost 1 out of every 8 registered citizens, hardly a credible figure. It sounds like DoJ will try to pull the wool over Congressional eyes any way it can to get the funding it wants.

Oh where did I hear about something so dangerous, but that no one could find it, and data was fabricated, so the government could fund an expensive operation? Oh, that’s it, Saddam’s weapons of mass destruction.

Yes, and that’s simply the Justice Department’s costs. Add in every police department and prosecutor office and all the other people involved all over the system and you’ve got some serious money.

Add in the taxes lost due to registrants being jobless or barely employed, and the costs resulting from services they and their families need due to not being able to provide for themselves. They need to start taking inventory and assess the cost of this war on sex. As long as the public is dumb and those who make money off the system as it is call the shots, that’s not going to happen. Don’t see the public getting any smarter at this point.

Torified said “Some RC’s can’t get certain DLs and that is listed in the DMV. So they all MIGHT be listed there and only certain ones are banned from driving an ambulance, for example. That’s what I was trying to say.” But on that same DMV webpage, it also lists about 15 other categories of criminals that are not allowed to get ambulance licenses. Hueso, by the way, is not allowed to get an ambulance license. I couldn’t imagine the DMV having all these lists of people who cannot get ambulance licenses when its easier just to do a Dept.… Read more »

Maybe someone need to tell Hueso,that he is not trusted enough and is not allowed to get an ambulance license and drive one.

Thanks for pointing that out now we have a leverage

Torified said “Anyone know what happened to the dude that started the Sex Offender Issues blog? Is he still running it? Last I knew there were a lot of mods there and I didn’t know if he was still there or not. Hope he stayed out of trouble and is …”

Unless the guy came off as really sketchy, why would you think that because he’s not commenting on the website, that he didn’t stay out of trouble. You’re doing the man a disservice by asking that. Did you know the reoffense rate of RSO’s is under 2%?

Harry said “I am sure there are Democrats on a sex offender list, along with BC” The Democrats throw their own to the wolves. Republican Vitter admitted to prostitution and begged for forgiveness. He got it and it looks like he’s good-to-go for Governor of Louisiana. Republican Sanford of South Carolina, took trips to South America, on the taxpayers dime, to go meet his lover. Sanford now represents South Carolina in the US Congress. Anthony Weiner ,democrat, on the other hand, never even met the women he communicated with online, was forced to resign and now he can’t even get… Read more »

Why don’t the politicians and law enforcement want the public educated as to how the laws DON’T work. I was under the impression that a public servant was there to serve all the public, not just ones that agreed with their opinions. prejudices should be left at the door when entering into public office.

Doing some research, and I found a few disturbing issues with regards to Guam’s Code Annotated (their version of the penal code). Read on as this is extremely scary (especially the last section). § 89.14. Limitations on the Use of Electronic Mail (e-mail) by Registered Sex Offenders. (a) Any person required to register as a sex offender pursuant to the provisions of this Chapter shall include identifying information in the “reply to” and/or “sender” and/or “from” field(s) in any e-mail account established and used by the registered sex offender. For purposes of this Section, identifying information means the user’s first… Read more »

Guam receives US DOJ funding for being “Adam Walsh Act compliant”

You do realize that Guam is under the jurisdiction of the 9th circuit’s ruling, right?

Addendum for “Lawful searches”: To me, this is a redudancy and unnecessary addition. The ONLY lawful searches are those conducted without warrant by a parole / probation officer for a registrant still under court order, or through a warrant issued by a judge in the conduct of the “lawful investigation.” Any other search should be illegal and invalid, and a registrant should have a right to deny such a search.

Guam travel? These people are nuts!! Are they aware that going from one town in Guam to the neighboring town in Guam is “travel”?? I’d like to watch them stumble all over themselves as they try to agree on an enforceable definition of “travel” (distance? duration? length of stay? mode of conveyance?)

Guam “has put forth exceptional work”. That’s how the SMART/ SORNA report on Guam concludes. They are AWA, as are Marianas and Virgin Islands. But the one U.S. Territory that AWA can’t conquer is Puerto Rico.

I understand that Guam has gone nuts with AWA, but there is no way that it can be constitutional to: 1) prohibit persons not on parole/probation from using specified, legal websites, and 2) waive your 4th amendment rights. Also, I’m not completely sure they can mandate the format and manner of an email.

Guam “has put forth exceptional work”. That’s how the SMART/ SORNA report on Guam concludes. They are AWA, as are Marianas and Virgin Islands. But the one U.S. Territory that AWA can’t conquer is Puerto Rico. I think PR truly can’t afford the unfunded mandate and eats the JAG penalty.

The recent Carson protest was covered fairly positively by the Daily Breeze.

“Convicted sex offenders seeking more rights in Carson”

Just 4 years old news, but heard of it only today: a 2011 novel about a young registered citizen living under the very real Julia Tuttle Causeway in Florida. Well known author, Russell Banks. Book called “The Lost Memory of Skin”. Anyone here read it? Any good ?

Sorry to interrupt any ongoing subjects here.

File this under Stranger Danger Myth. For the past 24 hours, the news out here in the Bay Area has been about the missing 8 year old girl from Santa Cruz. OF COURSE authorities knocked on the doors of and possibly harassed registered citizens. “The apartment complex is such a close community,” according to neighbors. Unfortunately, the news just announced that they found her body in a dumpster. Very sad news.

Who was arrested? Not a registered citizen. Not a stranger. Her 15 year old neighbor.

NPS, I was just reading this horrible story about five minutes ago and didn’t see anything about registered citizens. Before the body was found, at least one citizen was blaming this on all the tolerance in letting so many homeless live in the area, and the fact that this community was in an industrial/commercial zone. That would undoubtedly mean many registered citizens living there as result of Jessica’s Law. A less liberal community would have already rounded up all the homeless and told them to leave or worse. The homeless, instead, helped in the search. The 15 year old was… Read more »

By the way, I was reading the story in the Washington Post.

It was mentioned that law enforcement was talking to registered citizens. By “talking” I take that to mean “harassing”. This was reported in the San Jose Mercury News when she was still missing, but now since they have a suspect, they’ve probably removed that information. In fact, I tried looking for that original article and came up empty. All articles referencing her missing are gone at this point.

Now Mark Klass is all over the news again due to the Santa Cruz Murder. He’s calling for people to put up more surveillance cameras in their neighborhoods. Not sure how that helps after the fact. But if Mark Klass recommends it, it must be the right thing to do to save a child (even if it wouldn’t have helped in this case).

The irony is that there is a security camera, and that was the image they floated around the media. So obviously it didn’t help much. Due to her age, the first thoughts people have is that she had to have been sexually assaulted. There are no details, yet people are calling for this kid’s head and already marking him a deviant child rapist. I know this is hearsay, but there has been discussion that it could possibly be a freak accident. Supposedly the 15 year old was driving, didn’t see her and accidentally hit and killed her. He panicked and… Read more »

“The pitch forked masses…” Are you kidding me? Spend some time and do a little research to find out just what happens in other parts of the world where pitch-forked masses really do turn out to lynch, necklace, stone and burn the accused before any type of trial. If you have the stomach for it, there is plenty of video and all-too often the lynchee is a woman or child accused of adultery, witchcraft or dishonoring her family. There are major problems in the US and people all too often rush to judgement, but Mark Klaas calling for more security… Read more »

It’s called a metaphor and it was a reference to those commenting on the story in various newspaper sites where people are literally calling for this kid’s head. Thumbs down for not knowing the difference. And by the way, the United States does have a history of lynching particularly during the Jim Crow era.

First off it broke my heart when I found out that they found this girl dead. No parent should ever have to bury a child. My mother had to bury two of her sons. My younger brother died 20 years ago at the age of 17 and my older brother died 10 months later at the age of 22. It’s something I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy. The second thought that came to mind after feeling bad for the girls family was where were her parents. I don’t want to kick someone when they are down but it is… Read more »

I agree. When I first heard the story she was missing I shuddered at the notion of my little girl or boy missing and quickly shook the idea out of my head. The news she was found dead sickened my stomach and seeing the reaction of the suspect’s mother, screaming and crying for her 15-year old son, was heart wrenching as well. I’ve not heard much more than this, but I am still hopeful the suspect is not an RSO. More cameras? Oy. Mark Klaas, you are not a thinking man. Unless someone is watching them, a (recording) camera will… Read more »

The Runners and company will use this to make some more “off with the heads of RC” laws. I have a lot questions about Mark Klass charter, I wonder what is in his closet?

Why are some people so interested in making TV shows about the misdeeds of others? “Actor, Law and Order Director Jace Alexander Arrested”. First, guess what he is suspected of doing? Then, look it up.

I have posted before, but sometimes don’t know which area is the best to post in. I find my posts removed. should I just stay with general comments in these cases. maybe the moderator telling where the post was moved to would help.

Secretary of State Alex Padilla announced Tuesday he won’t appeal a voting rights decision against the state, guaranteeing the vote for tens of thousands of felons.

Read more here:

This is so sad to read about. Another RSO takes his life.

He was a good man who had his heart at the wrong place and the wrong time.

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