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Fontana School District’s “No Registrants” Policy Challenged in Court

Today a lawsuit was filed in state court challenging a decision by the Fontana Unified School District to prohibit all registrants, including parents, from entering all 45schools in that district. The five members of the school district board voted unanimously in favor of the “zero tolerance” policy on September 14 after several angry parents threatened to oust any board member who opposed it.

According to the lawsuit, the school board policy is preempted by state law and is inconsistent with other state laws which require schools to allow parents and guardians of school children to participate in the education of their children. The lawsuit requests that the court issue a writ of mandate requiring the school district to stop enforcement of the policy.

“The Fontana Unified School District is violating state law each and every day it enforces the unlawful policy of prohibiting all registrants from entering all schools in that district,” stated civil rights attorney Janice Bellucci.

The lawsuit also alleges that the school board is exceeding its authority by creating and then enforcing a policy that excludes registrants from school campuses.

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I would like to face them since I went to K-12 there. Show them something that their is a lifetime face with their actions.
Thanks Janice and Team to initiate Law Suit.
You will persevere!

This is some funny S*** I remember reading this about a month or so ago and now LAWSUIT, that is what it takes these people to STOP this BS Draconian stuff. I recall a few days / week ago the Halloween sign settlement.. at the end I noticed the best words…. The one that was SUED that SETTLED will pay all ATTY Fee’s !(CDCR…HALLOWEEN) When people have to PAY up they change their STANCE ! Same with all the cities doing residence restrictions, Once a LAWSUIT is threatened/filed they ALL CAVE in on their ILLEGAL LAWS/ORDINANCES/BS…. ALWAYS Just gotta wait… Read more »

Wow, I had no idea sex had this kind of power, where people think they have the right to prevent parents or other loved ones from being in a school or any building with their children. So much for the right of association. But people who teach their children and others to live in fear are just fine. Honestly, what kind of people are they. I thought we went through the dark ages long ago? Its starting to become clear to me, we need a separate america. Where those with toleration live away from those who do not. You see… Read more »

Fear is born out of an environment of misinformation. Misinformation is spread like wildfire over the social media, which doesn’t lend itself much to fact checking, because it appeals to the emotions more than the analytical part of the brain. It is like the criminal broadsheets of the middle ages, when people took anything written as truth.
People are so enamoured with the present technology, they rarely analyse what it is telling them.

That is why I maintain that the state is essentially legalizing cyber-bullying and setting the tone downrange for what chaos can and will ensue based on ignorance and predictable mob rule vigilantism. What is even more nefarious is they know the facts about recidivism but continue to ride the wave of the panic that is spread by their skillful use of “factoids”. One could easily use the argument that anyone on probation for drunk driving be banned from within 500 feet of a school, church, park or any place that children gather. The same would go for gang members who… Read more »

The parents that forced their views on the board members and those board members who helped them are criminals, nothing more. They think only they have the right to decide how people live. Seems to me it is civil disobedience and treason in support of the enemies of this country to destroy our constitution and our country. They should be declared enemies of the state, because if you can’t live by our constitution and the flaws of its people, then you are our enemy. Like I said, take your money, your possessions, and go back to Europe. You will fit… Read more »

Good luck, Janice, and all. I hope this stupid policy is thrown out and that you are duly compensated by the tax payers of Fontana for your continued hard work.
Then, I hope the hard-working tax payers of Fontana step up and throw out of office the morons who implemented this ridiculous policy.

They’ll learn……

Janice, you and the other ACSOL volunteers are the very few who fight for us RCs. Thank you.

Thank you for challenging irrational laws.

I have the same issue here in slo county and it’s a burden on me and my family. I’m not allowed on school grounds unless I call and get permission from the principal I’m only allowed to pick up my kids but not to get out of my car . Maybe janice and staff should do the same here

Another WIN for RC!!

Wow. Some of the comments I’ve been reading really have me baffled. Like the ones from Rick about civil disobedience and treason….how is not wanting a registered sex offender no where near my kids or students civil disobedience? More like my civil duty. Offenders are on the offender list for a reason. They are the ones who broke a law! If they can’t handle the punishments dished out here in America then maybe they should consider leaving. Why do I need to put my child at risk? Offenders lost their rights to chose wither or not to go to schools… Read more »

I wondered how long it would take someone brave enough to try and come here to pander their views. I applaud you in that aspect Cindy. But your way of thinking is way off base, wrong, and completely misguided. The first thing I would like to point out is the fact that you actually used the word “punishment”. That is what this is really all about: punishment. It’s not about safety, order, or protection. If you actually take the time and put as much effort into exploring this site, you would actually become educated that the real threats to your… Read more »

Wow CINDY! Are you confused. You have much to learn about the injustice on selected individuals and their innocent children at the whim of a prejudiced society. First of all, it’s interesting that you see being on the registry as “punishment” which the courts refuse to admit. Naturally, the punishment extends to the offenders family. Secondly, many registrants would welcome an opportunity to leave this country but they can’t. When was the last time you read about a registrant sexually molesting a student at school? When was the last time you read about a teacher or other school employee sexually… Read more »

@ Cindy… Well said… I guess if push comes to shove… Only children of sex offenders will be attending public schools… These people are friggen crazy thinking law abiding citizens want Sex Offenders in and around their children… And if the school wants to spend thousands of dollars notify each parent, then lose more thousands of dollars, when we keep our children at home because a Registered “Sex offender” will be on school grounds… Then so be it… Fine, lets make Fontana California the Charter School Capital of California… Are these people so ignorant to think parents actually care about… Read more »

Note to Moderator: Why are we seeing these comments now? It’s enough that we have to wade through these ignorant, hateful diatribes everywhere else.

I don’t see that this site needs to become another outpost for obsessives and vigilantes. Their comments are not in aid of balance, if that is the reason.

If they are educable, then great, they’re free to READ the posts and later write something if it rises to the standards of the board.

I agree….Loose these morons

I agree wholeheartedly. We don’t need Cindy, Irma and other brainwashed, myopic, self-righteous, sanctiminious trolls bashing us here. This site needs to maintain its integrity as a place to discuss legal issues facing registered citizens and lend each other support.

Valligator is dead. Let’s not serve as an incubator for her sleazy, self-centered, successors.

If I have to sift through hurtful, counterproductive drivel to find meaningful comments the site loses its value and any reason for me to return.

Please delete these and block future such posts.

Irma – Please include in your diatribe any examples of “registered sex offenders” coming onto school grounds under the pretense of participating in the education of their children and instead attempting to molest someone else’s child.
In other words either put up or shutup!

Yet you seem to have no problem having murderers around your children… or meth cooks, or drug dealers, or wife beaters, or drunk drivers, or or or. Maybe you or your child’s father have a criminal record that I do not want my child to be exposed to? What is the problem here, Irma? How many children have been abused by those REGISTRANTS (there, I said it again) attending to pertinent business involving their own child at the school? I bet you cannot come up with one anecdote. Are you really supporting depriving an innocent child’s parental involvement because of… Read more »

Irma let me guess..you were one of those screaming psychos at the Fontana school board meeting that forced this ordinance. Well say hello to the constitution. You probably know nothing about it based on your excellent writing ability. Usually the most uneducated about a subject are the loudest screamers. Why don’t you google teachers and sex with students. You will find four in the last month around the country. And guess what ZERO registered offenders committing any offenses on any campus. I would be more worried about a teacher than anyone else. Look it up

Please don’t feed the troll.

Is it the most heinous? I mean seriously, I’ve seen cases where people did horrible things to both adults and children that ended in death. It’s bad but it’s not the most heinous. As for the rest of that mess, you nor your kid are guaranteed safety in life and everyone’s rights are equal. Sure we lose some of them but once we complete our time, we’re good right?

Go F yourself, Irma. We don’t need un-Americans like you in our country. So get out.

Since when did this moral website start allowing scumbags like Irma here? They should not be allowed.

+2

To Irma Don’t forget all the other child abusers, drug addicts, alcoholics, child beaters, teachers of hate and discrimination, divorcees, bullies, domestic violence perpetrators, selfish greedy parents, etc, that all have just as serious emotional and physical impacts on children. Have you ever seen what some of these people do to their kids and how they’re kids grow up to be. Your the perfect example of ignorance and hatred, and you perpetuate your discrimination. More kids die every year from regular so called normal types of child abuse and neglect then will ever happen from sex abuse. Your a criminal,… Read more »

1. Public School are funded by California Tax Payers. Registrants pay taxes. Seems to be quite tyrannical to take one’s money and exclude them altogether. 2. A plethora of people who register have earned a 1203.4. That means their case has been dismissed. Which means their crime of record does not exist. They can’t be sex offenders if their case doesn’t exist any longer, but are still forced to register. 1203.4 states that a person is rehabilitated and deserves to restore their rights. 3. California has only lifetime registration. It’s all or nothing. There is no in between. There are… Read more »

Irma ,,,, are you still a law abiding citizen if your not cot? I can see that your one of the sales persons to people like Cindy and many others selling you fear and hate ,, sitting there talking about money and YOUR kids , like ours don’t matter ! you sound like you fancy your self as some kind of an elite , stupid to think that these unjust laws cant come back and slap you in the face , when its your kids that have to grow up with these laws , and god forbid that its your… Read more »

Irma, it sounds as though you consider the children of sex offenders to be less entitled than your own children.

That makes you my enemy.

Irma, it sounds like you do not have the tools to protect your own children from anyone, sex offender or not.

That makes you the enemy of your child.

Irma, would YOU pass the same polygraph exam given to sex offenders? If you believe so, I challenge you to take it, at your own cost, and have the results made public.

If you refuse, then we all know you have something to hide.

Cindy, I made a mistake. I did my time and paid my debt to society. That’s it. I shouldn’t be subjected to any further punishments. This registry is a joke. Parents need to be more accountable for their children. If parents were also held responsible for not taking care of their child, there would be less people on the registry. Registrants should have the same rights as everyone else. These laws that are put in place to “protect” children are infringing on registrants rights. Fortunately we have Janice to protect us from these unjust laws. The other day when I… Read more »

Well said! Cindy apparently does not know much about the registry or the very low recetivision rate of only about 5 percent. The odds are someone in her family or herself would harm her kids before any registered offender would. Her own attitude is her worst enemy and risk for her and her own children!

Cindy and Irma are trolls amd probably the same person.

According to the NCMEC map there are over 851,870 men, women and children (as young as 8 and 10 in some states) required to register and the “crimes” range from urinating in public (indecent exposure), sexting, incest, mooning, exposure, false accusations by a soon-to-be ex-wife, angry girlfriend, or spiteful student, viewing abusive OR suggestive images of anyone 18 years old or younger, playing doctor, prostitution, solicitation, Romeo and Juliet consensual sexual dating relationships, rape, endangering the welfare of a child, the old bate-n-switch internet stings and many others. If you multiply the number on the registry by 2 or 3… Read more »

Thank you Vicki and W.A.R. for acknowledging the core lie that started this current mess we have. I appreciate what your group is trying to do.

Of course, Cindy adheres to the belief that everyone on the registry is a child predator who is lurking just outside her kid’s classroom door clad only in raincoat. I can’t blame her for that. It’s the mentality that the Chris Smith’s and John Walsh’s of this country desperately need to keep their trains rolling along, playing to the fears of the uneducated. But guess what, Cindy? There are a great many on the registry who never touched a kid, and never would. We have streakers, road side pissers, Romeos who later married their Juliets. Yet, somehow, no matter what… Read more »

Cindy – like many Internet sites, this one has its good and bad comments. I also applaud you for posting here, but I would like to ask that you take a few minutes and read up on the Registry. First you should know that NO one here is advocating that sex crimes should not be punished, we just want the punishment to be constitutional. You call the registry punishment and so do we, but the Supreme Court has said that it is not and should not be, because it is unconstitutional to add punishment after someone has already been sentenced… Read more »

Cindy, We really do want your children to be safe, too. We don’t hide behind bushes just hoping your children will come walking by so we can jump on them. This is typical of the hysteria that the general public has been brainwashed to believe for decades now. It is against the Constitution of the United States to convict a person for their mistakes and then after that person has served his/her time…including probation or parole and then arbitrarily begin adding new punishment after that time has been served. It has been determined by the Supreme Court of the United… Read more »

It seem that if a registered citizens have children of their own and living in their homes and are safe and not abused. This puts to mute the reasons of keeping them of school grounds to be involved with their kid’s education. All is hysteria weed that went to seed

Cindy here is where you are wrong. The punishment that you speak of happens at SENTENCING not 10, 15 or 20 years later. It is unconstititutional to punish after the fact. How many convicted drug dealers are on your campus? How many people convicted of multiple DUI”d on your campus? Boy I wouldn’t want any parent who is a drunk diving my kid around!. I have 3 kids 2 currently in large college institutions and one still in high school. I supported them all the way and attended EVERYTHING they are involved in. Surprise. Never read about me, a registered… Read more »

@Cindy Why would you think that all Sex Offenses involve children?

“Offenders are on the offender list for a reason.”
Political reasons.

Do you think it’s fair that an 18 year old be put on “the list” because he hooked up with a 17 year old who lied about her age?

“If they can’t handle the punishments dished out here in America then maybe they should consider leaving.”
Yes I’m all for that! Please get me the f*** out of here- NOW!

Well, I have an answer for Cindy, I don’t know if you are an actual so called normal person or someone acting as one, but here goes and I just want to try and demonstrate what I mean. Sorry, I’ve responded so late, didn’t notice your comment. Civic duty has nothing to do with your parenting and the protection of children. That is a separate responsibility that transcends civic activities. Civic activities are related to the actions required by the government to provide generally accepted norms of food, clothing, health, etc. For instance, if your child or someone else’s child… Read more »

People with your limited knowledge (and practice) of the constitution and the criminal justice system typify the saying: People with big hammers tend to view problems as small nails. It is not up to the public to manifest a punishment vehicle that can be used randomly, arbitrarily and indiscriminately especially against the children of registrants. You comments clearly imply that children of registrants must also be punished along with their parent. That narrow minded thinking simply cannot go unchallenged. It is caustic and patently anti “Family Values” and accomplishes nothing more than the current law which is attempting to be… Read more »

Cindy I urge, no I BEG you to call, write and meet with your legislators to pass laws that allow sex offenders to escape the United States. In fact, you should recommend incentives be given to nations that accept sex offenders who wish to escape the United States. Do you really want to protect American children? If so, then you should do everything you can to ensure laws are passed that allow sex offenders and their families to escape the US and become citizens of other nations. I suspect that the registry would be reduced by at least 10% in… Read more »

Renny >>> Your thinking out side the box , and I love it !

Renny, “without tax penalties” Why would there be tax penalties? Most registered citizens no longer have many assets or income so what tax penalties would there be?

I would like to take this opportunity to respond to individuals who continually try to make others think that all people on the registry are lurking in the bushes to steal a child. The media has caused the hysteria along with uneducated citizens who know nothing about the registry. The registry is PUNISHMENT-it is a death sentence without being put to death. You can never get off of the registry, regardless of what you have accomplished since being convicted. Our society looks at registrants as throw-aways who can never be rehabilitated and that is an incorrect assumption. Many of the… Read more »

cindy lets see how brave and intelligent your are…your brave enough to come on here spouting about who cares about our rights (which is completely un-American, ylu should care about all the people’s rights if you’re a true American) and that any and all of us pose some kind of danger to your precious little suzy or joey….try educating yourself with the following facts and the facts that have already been provided and come back and give one sound reasonable argument about why we shouldn’t be allowed on school property besides just spouting at the mouth that we’re sex offenders… Read more »

Great post, Mike R!

Great summary of the data, Mike r. One small correction: the re-offense rates for the CASOMB data are lower than what you say. The last report (2011 to 2014 parolees gave a 0.35% re-offense rate compared to all released registrants. You are quoting the percentage derived from those returned to prison who committed a new sex offense, not out of all parolees.

Hi mike r, I was just thinking about your post today. It would be a great resource to have these studies and their summaries posted on this site for easy reference, like the state laws info. Otherwise it gets buried in the list (I thought I would make this comment before I couldn’t find your post again). Hint, hint, webmaster. For that reference purpose you can pare it down to just links and summaries. You don’t have to do it yourself. Maybe a few can get together and fact check, edit and update this list. I save articles, but they… Read more »

Cindy and Irma, I am glad you came here to post, and I hope that you will continue to post after learning more about the Sex Offender Registry, the people on it, and what society can do to make kids safer. First, the Sex Offender Registry, and all of the laws written against registrants, actually does the opposite of making kids safer. The government tried to make the harsh registry laws and punishments sound like a good thing, because they noted that reported sexual crimes dropped 13% across the board immediately after implementation of a public Sex Offender Registry. What… Read more »

Exactly.. Exactly..welcome the fine folks of Fontana and any & all cities..
You’re saying what we’ve always said..its “punishment”.
These fine folks know it ..
The US 6th Circuit District Court knows it..
Legal scholars know it. .
We’ve always known it from day one…its ” punishment “.
State legislators now tell the truth what everyone else KNOWS….. registered is punishment.

also explain how one of us sexually depraved cretins are going to do anything to your little precious with all you helicopter parents and hundreds of other people around….just senseless and hysteria over the boogeyman

@cindy,
Maybe you should have THOUGHT 1st before you decided to have kids since SO’s have been around WAY before you decided (or didnt) to conceive. !!

I have a feeling that cindy and Irma will not be back we’ll see if either of them have the courage to get into any real debate simply because there is no winning arguments for these laws except for the same old we dont deserve rights or little Joey’s rights are more important than ours….by the way how much money has lil joey paid in taxes? what about what kind of contributions has he contributed? how many times has he voted or gave to charities or spent money in our economy? I think most of us have actually paid for… Read more »

Your filing this lawsuit should be commended. I really have no idea where we would be without Jsnice. I’m personally appalled at such a law would be passed. We have people with expunged/non child related and summary probation that are affected by this. Yet, we have drug dealers, wife beaters, DUI convictions, murderers and gang bangers who can still visit these schools. This law was passed due to anger/stupidity and the way law enforcement and government officials have portrayed those convicted of crimes related in sexual nature!

Stay and learn Cindy. I truly hope that nobody you love has to ever go through either side of this though.

Why would you want them to stay? Today, there are no informed, intelligent people who support the registries unless they are gaining something from it. Let the uneducated hate mongers cry among themselves elsewhere. F those people. All day, every day.

It’s called tolerance. Most are afraid because they’re uninformed and they react to that lack of info irrationally. She may learn something. Time would tell if she can or if she’s just here to cause problems…giving that person the second chance to decide is called tolerance. Grabbing a pitchfork at the first sign of “trouble” is what THEY do. Besides, it’s words… we have the power to control how we feel about them. Try not to let them control you.

I understand exactly what you are saying. But it would be nice to have one or two forums where Registry Terrorists have no voice at all. They can go onto other forums and vomit their stupidity. Truly it would be best for them if they could access this site in “read only” mode only. Let them learn some facts for a change and shut their stupid, uninformed, yapping mouths. As far as tolerance for people who support the Registries, I am done with them. They don’t deserve it. I am beating them and I don’t have to worry about tolerating… Read more »

That attitude won’t help us. Letting all of the sheep blindly follow what the news and politicians tell them isn’t going to make lives any better for registered Sex Offenders or any safer for any children in this country. If an uneducated hate monger takes the first step of coming here to be educated, why would we not encourage that? Those people posted here knowing this place is filled with those against their uneducated beliefs and yet they still came here. That shows they made more effort than 99% of the misinformed public and should be encouraged, not banished from… Read more »

Well, I think the question is not whether or not they can read the posts here and, possibly, learn something new. After all, it is a website freely available to read. The issue is if they should be allowed to spread their poison here, perhaps the only place not yet poisoned by their ascendant ignorance. I would recommend, given that this site is moderated and for what we must assume are meritorious reasons, that they not be allowed to envenomate this one outpost. We need this unique place whose parameters for discussion are not defined by obsessives and bigots, overwhelming… Read more »

If they truly kept coming here to rant the same hate over and over without responding to our rebuttal and questions, then I would agree to banish their input.

However, I would prefer to give them a chance to start a dialog before judging them to be unable to communicate intelligently and actually see if they can debate real issues.

If we ban their type of posts from the get-go, then we can’t complain when child advocacy sites ban us from their sites.

Are we unable to arrive at that conclusion, i.e. that they are “ranting the same hate” over-and-over based upon their original messages? That’s precisely why I would exclude their speech because they have already confirmed their membership as ideological messengers of hate, if you will. Being able to discern that hatred is an ability which we should develop rather more, not less. It’s not as though their speech is simply unavailable in the world; indeed, it is the only speech which is broadly construed as acceptable today. Let’s not lose sight, in our commendable impulses of inclusivity and free speech,… Read more »

I guess we’ll just have to disagree on this, and leave it to the moderators. If Cindy and Irma had the guts to post here where they are obviously the minority then one could hope they at least feel they have some rational basis backing up what they want to say. Those are the types that are against us that I would like to start a dialog with in order to see what supposed facts they are hanging their beliefs on, and either learn from it or correct them and let them learn from us. But no, I don’t want… Read more »

Truly, and when we go “out in public”, we are going to hear similar or worse, and this is as good and safe a place as any to practice responses.
I have seen this happen before in civil rights movements. If the opposition would just remain quiet, the job of the activists is harder. Instead we get emotional responses that actual prove our point (say, like like these advocates for registration confirmating that registration is punishment). It is a war of words and a war of images.

Timmr,
You stated (say, like these advocates for registration confirmating that registration is punishment).
That will be what gets us out of this mess for sure. Some of the hate they spew may be tough to tolerate, but every time someone says we deserve the “Punishment”, that’s one more step in the direction that will fix the punitive nature of the registry. (Hopefully it will then be gone.) If society solidifies the fact that the registry is punishment, then the SCOTUS will have not no other option than to agree.

It is like it with blacks, they said they were biologically different and the Jim Crow laws kept the harmony between competing races, it had nothing to do with hate; it is like the gays, the laws are just upholding traditional moral values and have nothing to do with hatred. And the courts held onto the laws because of their stated good intent. But the hate mongers could not keep silent, they went beyond the laws and acted the laws out violently. Although this didn’t enter into the cloistered civility of the courtroom it could not be denied being spoken… Read more »

It would be fine if they all came here to be educated. There is just no reason to let them speak. Let them listen for a change. Also, there is no need to talk with them here. The talking can be done at the original article. Which is where everyone should be posting comments anyway, for everyone to see. Few people are going to venture here. Why are people not posting at the original article (and it could be copied here)? I think if every time a sheep read a “sex offender” news article and then sees 500 comments against… Read more »

I see people from here comment on many of the original articles.

I believe this news article is generated here, and we are at the original site that it is posted on by commenting here.

Yes, you are right about this specific article.

I didn’t make it very clear what I saying but I think that people like Cindy and Irma end up on this website from reading an article in a newspaper or other media source. I was referring to those articles. We should be able to easily get 100 different people commenting on each article. It would be overwhelming. There is an article about this in the Fontana Herald and 4 people commented. From looking at that it seems like there is little interest in the topic at all.

ya they’re not coming back they just wanted to spout their hate they have in their hearts that was either distilled in them in their childhood or they have had such a miserable life that all they know is hate…i pity em but I will never feel sorry for them because of what they are doing to good people that just made a mistake in life…

Actually, I think that Cindy and Irma are here silently. I don’t think they expected us to respond with such attention and facts; and with such agression. I believe they’re unable to respond because they don’t have a rebuttal. I’m sure they are aware at this stage that just posting angry rants and spewing hostility doesn’t go without justification here. And they know they just can’t be justified.

Cindy , I don’t even know what say you , I understand what your saying and all that , but you never said if you was a victim or ? and really I have made it appoint in my live not to listen or care what anyone say in this matter in less they are a victim , because the victim and my self have many things in common , we both understand what it feels like to feel and live in fear all the way to our spirt , and people that live in fear because of something bad… Read more »

That’s just awful and ugly, I feel for you, and it is our own so called government that allows this to continue. When I first got out, I moved into a boarding house on the first floor, some guy that knew of my case lived in the same house. One night he was drunk and talking crap about me just outside my window that was open. He was almost halfway in my window, threatening to come in and hurt me. While he was in the window I thought to myself, I could kill this guy and claim self defense. But… Read more »

Rick . I can tell you I am sick of these internet stalkers hiding behind the law dogs when they just run their mouths , scare my wife , trash my cars , trucks , and yes to many motorcycles to count , killed 1 , dog , harmed every dog I have had if they are out of my sight , and try to stand up and protect me and mine , just to end up in jail paying fines out the ass , and when I am sitting in jail whos going to protect my wife and family… Read more »

Nearly one million potential soldiers and growing, if we’re no longer Americans then we have to consider creating our own country, right here. The Indians have there own land. If they don’t want to be around us, then we have a right to separate facilities of every kind, including a country. Since the entire country is so afraid of us. I feel for you, but I can tell you if that was happening to me, I would have set them up, and hopefully did serious harm to them. Like I said, I don’t handle fear well, and violence is the… Read more »

Rick ,,, you live west coast or east or what man , you dang sure got the right idea , you remind me of this dude on here that just lays it down to the ground , I respect you and him both for that , your words hold much power for many to see I wish you well in our fight for freedom ,

After a parent sucessfully completes parole or probation, they have the RIGHT to raise their own children and participate in providing their kids’ education. This just shows how unconstitutional the sex offender registry and Megan’s Law has become.

Well, with the parole terms now extending 10 years, 20 years and even “life” parole: even that may not be fair. Something needs to be done about these ridiculous durations of parole. Maximum of 5 years is more than enough. Then let the person move on with his or her life. After all, they’ve already paid their sentence in prison.

If litigation is the only avenue that sex offenders have to maintain their rights and to get back those that they seem to be losing everyday, then, litigation it is. Janice is doing what needs to be done, taking it to court, and I couldn’t be more grateful. Keep hitting them in the wallet and sooner or later we will see change. Sex offenders are one of the last groups that society has turned a blind-eye to and that the government has ignored when it comes to discrimination. I say, NO More. We need to take all justifiable actions to… Read more »

Cindy and Irma; Sometimes things are expressed through other people in better ways than we can create ourselves. I’d like to share with you some quote’s I’ve read through the years I’ve found interesting and were things that I struggled to say with conviction, only to find these held the same sentiments I felt. I don’t remember who said them but they remain with me and remind me everyday! “Good parents don’t need sex offender registries.” “If you enjoy your Rights, don’t violate the Rights of others! If you do then get in line behind those being violated; because yours… Read more »

Hell yes! Well said.

No doubt that Registry Terrorists are dangerous people.

You guys are great at arguing — no doubt about it, basically civil, well informed, rational, persuasive. Any who come on this site all teeth bared and snarling, expecting us to be vulnerable, tails between our legs, I notice they sheath their claws, turn their little cotton tails and run for threir lives. It’s great!

Bellingham parents withdraw kids from Catholic school over sex offender controversy.
http://www.bellinghamherald.com/news/local/article108369317.html

Thank you, I read that and found facecrook plugin and could not comment directly, which we should all try to do. I sent a note to the author’s email saying the comment policy is de facto censorship of registrant speech. Would more of us do this, we might affect some change.

Good idea to complain to all people who use Facebook for anything. Governments should never be allowed to use it. Those who do should be sued for restricting citizen access.

That said, you should get a Facebook account and comment. Easy to do.

@Timmr
I agree that it’s deplorable that so many of these types of websites are using the facebook comment plugin. As thoughtful as your email to the author was, I doubt it will have any effect.
More and more of these sites use a Facebook theme complete with their ready made plugins to induce sharing and ratings.
I opened a phony Facebook acct a while back to respond to to these type of articles so that might be something you might like to do.

I sent an email to the journalist. He responded that he would like to hear what I and other registrants thought, so I told him. He’s the one that writes the stories. I don’t want to support facebook by adding to their client list, even with a fake name. I don’t care for the rating of people’s comments, just how informative are the responses to them. Facebook and social media in general is turning dialogue into crowd bating. The next fascist leader is going to love these propaganda tools. It seems the local news outlets use facebook solely, the national… Read more »

cindy and Irma…lmfao…..status qou cowards who never had a original thought in their lives…simpleton sheeple….knew they were to weak nd feeble minded to come back and try and support their stance with some kind of evidence……disgusting

mike r Cindy and Irma, I’m sure if they even tried, couldn’t find any evidence to justify their position. And it’s their weak standing that lead them away from here. But it’s raised a question to ask; does the American general public believe that registration is punishment? If we ask Cindy & Irma the answer is yes. They’ve used the term many times to describe the registry. Another question is; can we bring this inquiry to the public? & if the public says “Yes, the registry is punishment” then it should be found unconstitutional & unlawful & should therefor be… Read more »

…and the public should be educated on the process. For instance, should a registrant fail his civil duty he’s arrested and jailed, brought into a criminal court of law by a district attorney and judge to face felony charges which, if convicted, carries a possible three year sentence in state prison. Described this way, can the average intelligent person come to the conclusion that this, in fact, is punishment?


Described this way, can the average intelligent person come to the conclusion that this, in fact, is punishment?

When a California Judge doesn’t see it this way b/c the SCOTUS said it’s not punitive, then the rest of the laymen will follow suit and say it’s not punishment b/c SCOTUS says so.

Here’s my point, it was an uneducated, unknowing public who voted for this law. They relied on the lobbyist & legislators for their information. It comes to no surprise by anyone here all infomation about SO’s is lied about and exaggerated in words to benefit the legislation being proposed. Now armed with the true facts and evidence maybe we are ready to start a campaign for Liberty. We shouldn’t rely on an uninformed public to shape our lives because those in office will make sure to propose the most punitive of measures against us. Why? Because it’s an easy sell.… Read more »

As someone who is not allowed to enter my 5 & 6 year old’s schools for any purpose even for a one on one parent teach conference I think the state law needs to be challenged. Garden Grove is also doing illegal unconstitutional policies. I inquired with the principal of my children’s school and she was open to me participating with my children’s education. UNTIL the school district and the police caught wind of it. She was told to tell me that if I step on school property I will be arrested. IF I want to come onto school property… Read more »

I have had 100% success of correcting illegal behavior by sending written communications to any entities (including law enforcement) that are violating any laws. I have done it many times over the years. Of all the times, I had an attorney do it once. The way that I have done it is to completely stick to the facts and keep it as clear and brief as possible. I state that I am looking for a clarification, correction of their actions, or whatever. I also ensure that I send it to all parties that might have a stake in the issue.… Read more »

JCLASER wrote: “UNTIL the school district and the police caught wind of it. ”
May I enquire how they got wind of it?

To wonderin: I believe the principal probably had a rule or obligation to speak with the police, city attorneys or school district prior to letting me participate and come onto campus. When she did so she was told by the city attorneys and police to tell me everything that she did. The one part that really blew me away is…. “The police would have to open a new sex crimes investigation into you.” What? With not one soul saying I’ve done anything to them? Where is the probable cause to start an investigation?? According to that logic they can knock… Read more »

Interesting!
She couldn’t just give you a permission slip based on her own opinion. So much for leadership?

While you may not be allowed to set foot on your children’s school for any reason, including teacher conferences, you may find comfort in the fact that any common, violent, repeat criminal not only may do so, some get celebrated for their attendance.

I meant to post this last winter but it slipped my mind.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/highschool/la-sp-westchester-fairfax-basketball-20160123-column.html

ps. My prediction – merely saying “this must get challenged” will see you miss your children’s entire school careers.

Joe, well no duh. You have the money to lend me to fight it? Is it worth it to poor everything I have into it SELL MY HOUSE, SELL OUR CARS, SELL MY GUITARS, SELL EVERY DAMN THING IN MY LIFE if in the end I live in a one bedroom apartment and have nothing left? How is that being a good father to my children? They’re first not me. It makes no sense to give them a poor quality of life fighting for something that I want to do. Unless you can give me the money to fight, it… Read more »

To JCLASER If you have money it only takes a couple hundred bucks to write and submit your own city, or state lawsuit. If you don’t have money it’s nearly free. Reading your posts you appear to have enough legal skills and writing skills to put one together. Lots of samples online or at the library. Money is not the problem, it’s a choice not to get involved and to depend on others. Do you want to explain to your kids one day why you never filed a lawsuit and tried to change the law. You are doing exactly what… Read more »

Can you elaborate on this, Rick? I was under the impression filing a lawsuit was expensive and difficult, but I can see the value to exercising our right to petition our government for redress of grievances when we become aware of it and not wait on someone to come carry our cross. We all would be better knowing this. Can you give us some examples? Give a short blog? Teach us.

Get online, type in sample lawsuits for your state. Stick to one or two issues, because it can get complex if you use more. It will tell you all about them and give examples. If you need help writing it, I can help.

I’d like to be walked through, can you give a specific example? What does it mean “type in sample lawsuits for your state.” Sometimes I have to see something before I get it.

You can spend less than $1 and often get problems corrected. Send a certified letter to them, their legal counsel, and anyone who oversees them (e.g. Board of Education). Entities feel obligated to respond in writing (and they should) and *every* time that I have done it they have responded in writing. And no one wants to put in a written response that they are breaking any law or deny anything that can be proven that they are doing. If they do, or they don’t correct the action, then you can sue them. And use the letter in the lawsuit.

OK!

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