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NY: Police Reportedly Claim a Brooklyn Teen Consented to Sex in Custody. That’s Impossible.

[theintercept.com]

On September 28, attorney Michael David filed notice of a claim against the New York Police Department, the City of New York, and two unnamed police officers, referred to as John and Jim Doe. These plainclothes cops, alleged the claim, “brutally sexually assaulted and raped” his 18-year-old female client. David told me that within a day, he needed to amend the claim: The officers had been identified by police in the press as Brooklyn South narcotics detectives Richard Hall and Edward Martins.

“What was strange,” said David, “was that within only two or three hours of me filing, there was a story leaked to the New York Post saying that the detectives were claiming that the sex they had with my client in custody was consensual. They hadn’t even been named yet.” The attorney told me that he believes “the police were trying to get ahead of the story.”

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  1. AlexO

    Yay for more kid-glove treatment of police wrong doing for something that a private citizen would have already been curb stomped for. Yet people still give Kaepernick and others crap for their peaceful protest trying to bring to light exactly this kind of injustice.

  2. Q

    That’s impossible?
    I don’t think it’s impossible. Especially if the girl in a speed freak, sex addict, or if she’s been drinking too much or is just a totally nasty person that consented to sex for the sole purpose of discrediting these cops. Yes; I think it’s very possible she instigated and then consented. Were the 2 cops really stupid when they went for it? You bet! weather she consented or not; their actions were really stupid. They shot themselves in the foot when they acted on their impulses, for sure. Were reading a story that involves 3 really sick people.

    • Paul 2

      Maybe sex with an inmate can be consensual, but it would be pretty hard to prove, given the power police have over an inmate, wouldn’t you think? Besides, I would think it would be even more heinous than a teacher that gets arrested for having “consensual” sex with a student that is 18, the police have more power over the person.

      • SCOTUS SAVE US NOW

        In ny an Inmate cannot consent by law.

      • Michael

        I don’t know. Haven’t prison guards gone to jail for having sex with inmates? Is it even legal to have consensual sex with someone who is incarcerated or officially detained?

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    • AJ

      @Q:
      Suggestion: replace the word “cop” in your thoughts and words with priest, therapist, teacher, etc., and let me know if you still think it’s possible. Someone with a position of authority over someone else who has sexual relations with them is always considered to be abusing that position–except, apparently, if you’re a cop in NY. Therapists lose their licenses. Teachers get fired (even for sex with an 18 y.o. student). Priests get defrocked. The rules of consent in an authority-based encounter are wholly different than one where the people hold equal standing.

      And BTW, that she was perhaps drunk, high, or whatever doesn’t diminish the culpability of the cops…it enhances it. Consider drunk/high/etc. as a state of being mentally diminished. Still think it’s a mitigating factor?

    • Follow the $

      If she was in an impaired state and the officers knew as much, then consent is impossible. Same with a private citizen claiming he or she didn’t rape their drunk victim because he or she muttered yes at some point. Consent cannot be given under the influence.

  3. New York is Disgusting

    So in New York you can handcuff and detain someone, have sex with them and it’s consensual?
    If so, then I would love to know how I am a sex offender because my wife was banging her son and instead of killing them, I kept my mouth shut.
    Oh.. because I am not a cop.
    Remember people – A gun and a badge does not make a stranger your friend.
    Especially in New York. Especially in New York if you are an 18 year old woman.

  4. Michael

    “The attorney told me that he believes ‘the police were trying to get ahead of the story.’”

    Absolutely! There are people wearing badges and carrying guns in this country that are nothing more than jackbooted thugs getting away with rape and murder. Which police department was it that had a child pornography ring… St. Louis? Some of the BIGGEST purveyors of child pornography get a government paycheck. It does not surprise me in the least to see the NYPD attempting to get ahead of a lawsuit that alleges the rape of an 18-year-old girl by two of it’s officers.

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