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‘Glee’ Star Mark Salling Dead of Apparent Suicide

[yahoo.com]

Mark Salling has reportedly died in an apparent suicide weeks before being sentenced to prison for possession of child pornography. He was 35.

TMZ, The Blast and E! all reported his death. LAPD PIO told PEOPLE that officers responded to a death investigation at the 11900 block of Big Tujunga Cyn Road Tuesday morning at 8:50 a.m. but could not identify Salling.

The Glee star pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography involving a prepubescent minor Oct. 4, 2017. After striking a plea deal in December, he was due to be sentenced in March and expected to serve four to seven years in prison.

“Mark is focused on accepting responsibility and attempting to atone for his conduct,” Salling’s attorney Michael Proctor said in a statement to People at the time.

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  1. Agamemnon

    I wish there was some kind of resource or foundation he could have reached out to so that he wouldn’t have felt hopeless.

    He could have turned his life around. He could have been an example.

    • Trish

      There are plenty, but they are the biggest COWARDS! And the Government has no right or anyone from stopping any of us from forming a cooperative to counter the sex offender effects, stigma, hash punishments and all the BS you can think of ! But hey ! We can join in all the Bleeding hearts that care sooooo much for sexual misconduct, never mind most of these men are not monsters and deserve a place in this world, regardless who objects ! And that means, these men and women deserve help just like everyone!!!

      • Tim Moore

        Ah, cooperatives. I keep thinking that is a way to lift us out of this morass, economically, socially. If we are all in this together, why wait for someome else to pull us up? Pool whatever resources into a whole. I have looked into it and the planning required seems difficult for one person to carry out. We need some cooperation to embark on that path. Many talk about it, but noon3 wants to get together and plan it. I’m just as guilty of that. Should we wait to have ASCOL do everything for us? But it is a vicious cycle, personal depression, fear of change in an already chaotic life makes us stuck. We need stability, but fear of change keeps us down. Fear of others is what keeps us safe, but trust in others is how you make a team. Our worst enemies are not the Books or Runners, but ourselves.

        • Facts should matter

          “Our worst enemies are not the Books or Runners, but ourselves.”

          Correct! Most have “settled” and made peace with their label and are afraid to rock the boat and make waves..

          Not me! We are NOT beholden to a society that strips our freedoms and protections just so they can garner a false sense of relief in knowing where we live.

        • Sunny

          I’m sure it is no coincidence that our representatives continue to promote falsehoods and laws that prevent us from assembling and forming a unified effort. I’m sure there are many examples, but the first things that come to mind are: laws limiting or prohibiting registrants from using the Internet and social media, laws which make it illegal for more than one registrant to live in the same household or structure, laws which prohibit us from using public resources such as libraries, churches, and public meeting places (under the guise that it’s to protect children who frequent those locations), and laws which directly restrict our freedom of assembly, most notably laws like California Penal Code 290, which makes it a criminal offense for any registrant to even look at the Megan’s Law website. Thus, after prohibiting us from using major social media websites, the state has made it a crime for us to even find other registrants and network with one another by viewing a public government website that every other member of the public can view without restraint. ACSOL is the closest thing we have to an organized community and many of us, myself included, greatly appreciate this resource. I believe we could take it another step further and form a united and organized front, much the way every other civil rights movement has.

        • kind of living ,,@ Tired of this

          @Tim Moore ,,,,, ,, you know I have been banging on about this for ever , and your right . its long over due we pull together in a way we can be much more self stable , I lived on some communes bake in the day that made a boat load of money , good management was the key , I know some about how they worked , but management helps with setting up heads of different departments to see that they run smooth , and there is plenty of room for freelance BIZ as well , the one that was on the central coast was great , because people were creating jobs , housing was cool too , because you could always make it better , their are just to many things to list , a lot of work , but the thing is we had a lot of fun , ole boy that owned it made 3 mill a year after paying wages , and the light bill , because everyone one was working and paying , to much to list

        • Tim Moore

          This guy killed himself because he had no options. Or felt he didn’t. You’ll keep going as long as you have something to wake up to, even a hope. If we can get together and at least ensure some sort of financial security through joint effort, that is one way to feel one is in control. One can list the thousand ways we are limited in what we can do. It is good to be aware of what those are to avoid bumping heads against walls, but, why can’t we put our heads together and search for what we can do. We don’t need the Megans Law site to find others. This site and others and meetings are good enough to start something.
          People are waiting for the dramatic moment when registry laws go away. They won’t any time soon. We have to take care of ourselves now.

  2. AlexO

    Had he “only” killed someone, he’d likely still be alive today to serve out his sentence and try and rebuild his life.

    • C

      Back in 1987, following my arrest, my lawyer told me I’d be better off if I’d walked up to my victim and shot her in the head. I thought he was joking.

      The values of this country…ffs…

      • AlexO

        You’d admittedly server a lengthier sentence than for your actual crime (Maybe? Average murder sentence in California is 9 years), but then once you were done, you would actually be done! No registry requiring you spread-it every time you leave your city or a scarlet letter on your passport and drivers license (some states).

  3. CR

    Everybody knows these days that registering as a sex offender means losing most of your rights and liberties, being denied acceptance into society, being subject to the whims of legislators seeking to curry favor with voters, disgrace, hatred, obloquy, and vilification from the media and the masses, and being regarded as a pariah, or worse.

    As sad as it is when someone commits suicide, it is not so surprising in a case such as this. I also wish he had sought help, because even with all the negatives that come with life on the registry, it is still life and it is still precious.

  4. Facts should matter

    The feeling of hopeless, helpless and powerless over your future. Living with the uncertainty and chaos of knowing that people will never trust you ever again, much less forgive or forget. Living with the lifelong stigma of being looked upon as a pervert, pedo and predator. Not being able to overcome the climate of ignorance and hate that comes with being associated with CP. The marginalization and shunning that goes along with being on the registry, not to mention being permanently unemployable.

    At least he was spared of the aforementioned.

    Now he’ll be remembered specifically for his crime and everything he did previously will be devalued and forgotten. That is the real tragedy.

  5. totally against public registry

    Very sad that when people have the tendency towards children, can not get help or go somewhere to talk to someone about their feelings without being arrested. Just like guys with feelings of rape. There should be therapeutic centers to help people with these kinds of issues. Therapists and patients should be able to have safe communication (in confidence) without interference of law enforcement or court mandate. Our country is going backwards instead of forwards. By arresting, convicting, and incarcerating more and more people for sex crimes does not bring a solution to the problem. We need to bring victims and perpetrators together to heal and move forward. I can’t see any other way. Our prisons are not a place of rehabilitation so there has to be another way!

    • Sunny

      You make an excellent point. The lack of mental health resources and fear of using them not only puts potential offenders at risk, but potential victims as well. Many other criminal defendants are given opportunities for rehabilitation. Consider batterer’s programs for domestic violence, as well as drug and alcohol abuse rehabilitation programs. These do not end with lifetime registration or being made a social pariah, cut off from resources like social re-entry, employment, housing, education, and mental health. It should be obvious that someone who has an attraction to children, cut off from mental health services and social support, will be much more likely to offend than someone who has access to a support network. One day we will look back on this era with disgust at how our laws and our country failed registrants and victims alike.

  6. R M

    The article at https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/glee-star-mark-salling-dead-apparent-suicide-2-183521198.html stated “Salling had to register as a sex offender and enter a treatment program; have no verbal or electronic contact with anyone under the age of 18; stay 100 feet away from schools, parks, public swimming pools, youth centers, playgrounds and arcades; and pay $50,000 in restitution to each victim, according to the documents.”

    The article at http://people.com/crime/former-glee-star-mark-salling-indicted-on-child-pornography-charges/ stated that “It doesn’t matter who you are or what you do, if you hurt a child you will be held accountable,” said Lt. Andrea Grossman, Commander of the LAPD Internet Crimes Against Children Task Force. “These images are more than photographs, they are child abuse.”

    Mark Stalling was charged with “receiving and possessing child pornography”. Mark didn’t take the pictures, Mark didn’t touch the children, Mark looked at the pictures. How will these children be helped provided anyone even knows who or where they are? How does this stop any child abuse? I feel bad for the children. I feel bad for the US justice system. RIP Mark.

    • norman

      “How will these children be helped”..By getting $50,000 (individually) of Salling’s money..I can almost guarantee you that the original abuser(s) that documented their actions probably didn’t have to pay near that much in restitution when caught.

      • R M

        @norman Really? Who are these children? They were pictures from the internet from who knows how long ago, how will all 25000 be identified and found? Does Mark have $1.25 billion?

        • AJ

          25,000 images does not have to equate to 25,000 individuals, and I serious doubt that was the case. There were probably 50 of this kid, 75 of that one, 20 of the next. Also, a single movie can be broken down into separate, chargeable “images.” I think the federal standard is every 15 seconds counts as an image(?).

        • norman

          Just google and you can read about different victims suing downloaders in federal court for many thousands of dollars.There are several victims attorneys who by federal court order must be notified if their images turn up on someones computer. One victim had a standard $500,000 suit against all downloaders and was winning judgements until a federal judge thought that was excessive and lowered the judgement. What was interesting about this victim was that her uncle was the one who victimized and videotaped her, then posted to internet and when caught, only had to pay $6,000.00 in restitution. Btw, her lifetime restitution claim is in the millions.

  7. USA

    Very sad. I have a serious question. (Battery case expunged/year’s ago/still required to register)

    I live in a nice area and new neighbors moved in/built new house/inheritance). The people are nuts. I crossed them because they park massive RV illegally/I called on them.

    I’ve had them pound on door late night/throw grass clippings/yell/we built wall and wife accused me of being a womanizer in front of wife (we have visitors/relatives etc). They have never been in our house/met anyone I know. Now, they are accusing me of having sex in their garage and they caught me? It’s getting nuttier

    • steve

      Is there actually a question in there? I have a question. Why do you always preface every post with your criminal conviction.? Nobody cares.

    • Sunny

      My feeling is that we should all be our own “Big Brother.” Recording your own activity, even 24/7, can be a very useful protection against false accusations. Every state has different laws regarding the use of recording equipment, especially when you are interacting with other people. I would avoid any kind of video recording, but audio is usually safe. I have a small Sony audio recorder that can run well past 24 hours on two AAA batteries and I have it running whenever I interact with law enforcement or believe there’s even the slightest chance of conflict with any person. I keep a dashcam running in my car at all times. I avoid situations that might make me vulnerable to accusations, or I ensure I have a witness with me. In an age when anyone can point the finger and yell “witch!” and we are guilty until proven innocent, your best ally is proof of innocence.

      • Sunny

        This has helped me enormously in my personal dealings with the law. For example, when I was on probation, my PO told me the DA called him directly and ordered him to motion to modify my probation conditions to forbid all computer and Internet use shortly after I completed my jail sentence. My PO said, “I don’t believe you are any risk to anyone online and this isn’t really me doing this, but it was a direct call from the DA so I have to do this. I have no choice.” My attorney presented a recording of this conversation to the DA on the day of the hearing and the DA withdrew the request and I avoided computer or Internet restrictions.

        In another instance my local Sheriff’s office lost my $25 annual registration payment and accused me of failing to pay. They threatened me with arrest for failing to register. I emailed the Sheriff an mp3 file of the audio recording I made while renewing my information, which prompted an internal investigation at the Sheriff’s office. They did not tell me the outcome of that, however I was cleared of any allegations that I failed to pay.

        Regardless of what your state laws say, you ALWAYS have a right to record your interactions with law enforcement and I encourage everyone to always do so, particularly now that all smartphones can record lengthy conversations. It could save your skin someday. It has saved me many times.

  8. Chris F

    The judge in this case made sure he would never have a chance of getting back a normal life someday. At $50,000 per “victim”, and being caught with 25,000 images, it will bankrupt him forever. It’s become common through the use of face recognition, and with help from Facebook and Google, for law enforcement to actually identify a major portion of those in commonly traded CP.

    Had he been given a typical sentence, without the damages, he possibly could have gotten treatment and become a help for the cause of getting rid of these Draconian sex offender laws and laws that don’t allow someone to seek treatment without turning themselves in to the police.

    It’s judges and outcomes like this that perpetuate the cycle and force more families to hide abuse, thus leading to more and more victims. Let’s see, should we turn in Uncle Johnny and have the family shamed in public and forever remove his income potential and risk his suicide, or should we just try to hide it and look the other way? Shame on judges, legislators, prosecutors, and yes, even victims, that feel the need for revenge so much that they don’t care that it creates even more victims.

    • AlexO

      I don’t know if that would’ve made a difference. He’s a public figure. This sucks for us, but most of us are just regular Joe’s with no one outside of our circles knowing who we are. He would be recognized for the rest of his life. I honestly don’t know if I could get passed that either. That’s being on the registry x 100.

      • Sam

        His twitter was mixed comments. Like half were happy he was dead the other half was like “what he did was bad but that doesn’t mean he should have died” no one even thought about the registry for him saying he could get help etc. But none of them realize that if he had lived there would be no life after that especially since he used to be a household name for people who watched Glee

    • norman

      With what he was facing, 4-7 in a federal facility without protective custody, career gone, RSO, and bankrupted till the day he dies,…did he really have a choice?

  9. mike r

    This just shows you people would rather die than be humiliated and persecuted for the rest of their lives. All that for looking at pictures…..Two more weeks people and I go in front of the judge for the motion to dismiss hearing….It’s getting real now…

  10. USA

    Well, I’m not sure what to say. He clearly didn’t want to register, but the thought of facing 4-7 years wasn’t a nice feeling as well! I don’t think anyone would look forward to this. He has money, but it will only go so far. I would obviously buy a house gated/fenced in and live a quiet life hidden from society!!

  11. Gwen

    I would just like to take a moment and say to all of those that have had to serve and then register as a SO, how very proud I am of you. And also to the friends and family who have been there for you. There are no words to describe how hard the laws and registration are on a sex offender unless you have been put through it. In my opinion… to feel as if one must kill themself, due to these sex offender laws and the label it carries, over pornography is a travesty. May God have mercy on the persecutors and the prosecutors; as well as Mark Salling’s soul now that it is at peace.

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