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ID: Idaho Senate panel introduces bill to broaden sex crime laws

[idahostatesman.com]

An Idaho Senate committee has introduced two bills that would broaden the definition of some sex crimes to include crimes committed with the intent of degrading or humiliating someone.

Idaho Deputy Attorney General Paul Panther told the Senate Judiciary and Rules committee on Monday that both the state’s current statute on sexual battery and the statue on forcible penetration with a foreign object define the crimes as having been done with the intent of sexual gratification or arousal. But Panther said those statutes currently don’t cover situations like severe hazing, when someone — such as on a high school sports team — is sexually battered during a bullying incident.

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If you want to talk about “broad,” California has a statute under 290 that permits a judge to order registration if a crime was committed “as a result of sexual compulsion or for purposes of sexual gratification.” So even if a sex crime isn’t one of the 50 plus crimes specifically listed under the main 290 statute, a judge can use 290.006 to order registration nonetheless. Seems pretty ‘broad’ to me, considering the first factor relies on *thought*, whilst the other relies on *feeling*.

CA 290.006 is the catch all where latitude for applicability is broad as you state just like Conduct Unbecoming is a catch all when nothing else can stick.

Here’s the absurdity of this law…

If a man steals women’s lingerie with the intent to see his wife or girlfriend wear stolen lingerie, THAT could get him put on the registry under this law!

I remember reading something about stealing women’s panties from a store being considered a “sexual compulsion” while looking at the static 99 questionnaire a couple years back. So I think you are absolutely correct- it IS a registrable offense in CA.

I don’t recall which State it is, but there is one that requires a registrant to list all members of their household, names ages etc on their registry info-

I have been waiting for the day California requires you register your spouse and children too. This is not satire.

Stealing women’s panties from a store is not a specifically registerable offense in California (i.e. not one of the 50 plus crimes specifically listed per 290). However, stealing women’s panties may be deemed registerable per 290.006. The fact that 290.006 offenses are lumped into the cauldron of Karl Hanson’s mix of various other offenses ought to bring question to the Static-99R’s sample representation, uniformity, or lack thereof. In fact, the Static lumps all forms of sex offenses into its sample. Being that the Static-99R–colloquially “SARATSO” tool–will be imposed on all registrants at the tiered law’s enforcement, the Static-99R merely reintroduces… Read more »

More idiocy. Betting the primary unstated motivation behind these proposals is to increase the number of registrants.

If attempts to degrade and humiliate become regsterable offenses, then it should apply to all lawyers that have ever cross examined someone in court.

Not quite @Dustin. Read the articles below and then decide for yourself if they really just want to add more to the registry for grins and giggles. I am sure some parent doesn’t think so given their child went through this: White high school football players in Idaho charged with sexually assaulting black, disabled teammate with a coat hanger https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/05/25/white-high-school-football-players-in-idaho-charged-with-raping-black-disabled-teammate-with-a-coat-hanger/?utm_term=.82833bef2d1f Ex-Idaho football player avoids jail time for violent sexual assault of disabled teammate http://usatodayhss.com/2016/ex-idaho-football-player-avoids-jail-time-for-violent-sexual-assault-of-disabled-teammate Sex assaults in high school sports minimized as ‘hazing’ https://idahostatejournal.com/news/local/sex-assaults-in-high-school-sports-minimized-as-hazing/article_0ed07e6d-47af-58d3-9990-b9d9fac17ee7.html Here is one from TX late last month to show this is a nationwide issue among… Read more »

I’m assuming that you believe that you just made a point.

Lol. I thought it was just me…of course, I forgot to take my Skittles today, too.

I don’t understand your point either. The Idaho story was more about racism than sexual assault, and the Texas story didn’t say anything at all. If the point was to change my mind that the intent of the proposals was to increase the size of the registry, it failed. Miserably.

Of course, no parent wants their children to go through these things. But that doesn’t make hazing a sex offense, per se, in that there’s no intent of sexual gratification.

Sex assaults in high school sports minimized as ‘hazing’
https://idahostatejournal.com/news/local/sex-assaults-in-high-school-sports-minimized-as-hazing/article_0ed07e6d-47af-58d3-9990-b9d9fac17ee7.html

Then, Dustin, if your thinking is sexual gratification, then tell that to the whole lot of others who have been assaulted sexually without the intent of gratification but for merely dominance of one over another.

Sounds like its a war on football ? or racist ? I don’t see all the aricles talking about scumbag raping RC’s but back in prison for some infraction of the registry , or the alleged suicide ,or murdered , because of an infraction . And I am sure you wont say anything about the alleged sex offenders that are being murdered in their homes long after their punishment and were tracked down by thugs accessing the internet registry , nope , all people hear about for the most part are slanted articles , no matter what happened to an… Read more »

How bout making the judge do his jobs with the laws he has on the books already ? rather than pushing for more lame sex labeling laws , remember the registry is not for punishment ? they don’t need to be on some registry for a sex crime when that was not the intent , kids don’t need to pay for the rest of their live because of mistakes they made as kids , this has been going on for ever in the sports world , or Frat world , their are many ways to create awareness with out pushing… Read more »

If your child(ren) was subjected to the same action that one of the children was subjected to in the article below, you’d want the same proposed law to protect your child(ren) as it would any other child(ren) and you know it. Anyone would. You’d not be caught defending in public what is already on the books as enough because your child(ren) was/were the victim(s) and would demand more if the same non-sexual gratification hazing sex assault happened. Look at what you wrote and how, you’d ask for the proposed law because the emotion is already there. Sex assaults in high… Read more »

your wrong , my kids went thru more than you will ever know , they don’t need more stupid laws , ones that will affect our grand children , more laws against our kids are not the answer , the system is already over blown and over rated , no one did anything for my kids ever , at some point we need to be parents , and go deal with parents that don’t want to be responsible for how their kids treat others , only thing holding things up is the law not doing their job , and passing… Read more »

OH yes screw Florida by the way , they created their own problem , the real monsters there run the state , Ron Book was given that power by laws that stupid ass people voted for , RON BOOK is the perv big time , the whole dang state is sick , what hell dose ronny book have to do with us passing laws to mark kids ? for mistakes they make when they are just know nothing kids being ate up with dumb ass’s

@ Assault is still an assault regardless of how stupid it is to pass more laws

Even a sexual assault on one of my own children – which has happened, by the way – does not change my opinion that the registry is absolutely worthless as a preventive measure and accordingly, do not believe registration should be part of punishment for hazing. Nor does it change my opinion that the protection of children is a parental one, not a government one.

I think the reliance on the nuclear family(parents/children) to raise kids is in part why we have a registry. The idea that anyone out of that special unit is a danger is the root basis for the registry. Now with both parents struggling to make ends meet, there is not time to be responsible to your child, in all that should entail, so the task is delegated to institutions, government or private, which people assume are trustworthy. You have registries that do or rather don’t do what the extended family used to do, protect, encourage and foster the child. That… Read more »

No surprise. There is only what, 3 or 4 Democrats on the Idaho legislature?

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