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  1. Hysteria

    I read travel matrix and have a question.
    When it says “S.O.s turned away”, does anyone know if that is across the board, or is it random. I have a friend in Dubai and want to visit. They don’t have a registry, but it says S.O.s turned away. This I.M.L. crap is just that. The world has become small , and we have been incarcerated in the biggest prison ever, The U.S.! Makes one think of becoming a terrorist. Hell, they are treated better.

  2. Hysteria

    Has anyone thought about doing a mass emailing and flyer campaign to get out the truth to citizens. If the idiots that spread lies by doing this (I have received emails saying ” sex offender alert”), why can’t ACSOL and NARSOL and the action committees do the same. Send a packet to every assemblyperson with all the facts. Maybe a packet to school boards, and local city counsels.

    • Tim Moore

      I just blocked the email address for some group calling itself KidsLiveSafe. I don’t know how I got on their list, but maybe we could do the same, but then send out emails using “sex offender in your area “as the hook, and then when they open it, we give them the facts.

  3. NPS

    Janice, can you look into this? The article doesn’t state the criminal backgrounds of said inmates, but I don’t think that should matter. There shouldn’t be residency restrictions for anyone. This is the first I’ve heard of a residency restriction here in the Bay Area.

    https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2018/08/25/clayton-bans-homes-for-released-inmates-everywhere-except-for-two-areas/

  4. TS

    Some light reading for your Sat morning…this type of behavior has been discussed here previously (especially with the LEO in OK who pulled the same stunts with drug using women and was caught):

    A case of unchecked prosecutorial abuse

    https://narsol.org/2018/08/a-case-of-unchecked-prosecutorial-abuse/

  5. Hysteria

    Read a good article about Malaysia and the ministry’s approach to a registry.
    While the government feels a registry is needed (?), they will not make it available to public. They state that ,” Publicizing a person’s offense only creates shaming,and inhibits the rehabilitation and reintegration of that person back into being a productive member of society. Interesting that a majority Muslim country that one would think to have harsher laws ( they don’t allow identified Jews to enter) would be more progressive than a Christian based “forgiving” country.

    • David Kennerly's Government-Driven Life

      Hysteria, I believe that it is “Israeli citizens” who are barred entry into Malaysia, not Jews as a class.

  6. Hysteria

    I saw a RING commercial that networked communities via their doorbell/ camera devices to warn of “potential criminals”. How soon do you think that they will be able to use the registry to let their customers know who and where S.O.s live. The potential off the app industry to latch on to the felony scare could be devastating. They market it as community watch, but in reality it is creating potential vigilantism.

    • David Kennerly's Government-Driven Life

      Look no further than “Offender Watch” if you want to know of the ambitions of the “‘Sex Offender’ Industrial Complex.” (See how I used double-quotes there?) They are making themselves “indispensable” to the police state that is increasingly employing their services. I’m sure they’re already working on image recognition schemes. I think it will still be a little while before the Ring Doorbell has got it together enough to make this viable. I say this as a generally unsatisfied customer. https://t.co/DA570RBbym to see a handy map of OffenderWatch’s reach.

    • David

      I suspect that it is just a matter of time before I service such as “Ring” starts using facial recognition software to give homeowners a name of who is knocking at your door as well as any criminal background the individual may have. And other words, “Caller ID” for faces.
      And not long after that, facial recognition will probably be an app on cell phones so people can focus the camera on someone and see their entire history come up on the cell phone screen. Or an app will do an automatic search of the faces in one’s photographs and let you know the person standing next to you at the office holiday party is a registered offender.

      • Lake County

        I wouldn’t expect this facial recognition service to be commonly used anytime soon. It requires heavy use of computer servers and that will not be cheep. It will definitely have to be a subscription service that is an unaffordable option to the average person. Government and companies can afford this, but not the average person. And other than the registry, background check aren’t free. No one will want to pay a fee for running a background check on everyone that approaches your door. And if your home cameras are doing background checks on everyone that comes to your door, you will soon find that no family or friends will ever go to your house. Everyone has something from their past they want to keep hidden.

    • TS

      Look at who bought RING and consider the rest…

      Btw, it was Amazon

  7. PK

    I was wondering what happened to the post regarding the dismissal of the IML Lawsuit?

  8. Michaeline

    I am writing this post on behalf of my brother (with his consent), a registered citizen who lives in a small town in the Midwest. I am his sister living in the SF Bay Area.
    After he completed his year and half probation, he was told by the detective in charge of registration that since my brother is on the lowest tier he should consider petitioning to be removed from the registry. He mentioned that several other RC’s in the county were successfully removed.
    That was twenty months ago and my brother has not made any attempt to file a petition. During that time I have asked him repeatedly to please do this and if it was OK with him, I would contact the detective for more information on the petition process.
    This past spring my brother was forced to quit his job of 20 years due to a health and safety issue. When he went to the sheriff’s office to re-register due to change in employment status, the detective again talked to him about petitioning for registry removal. He spent almost an hour with him discussing the registry and the petition process – this time the detective recommended using an attorney just to be certain that all paperwork and forms are filed properly. My brother sent me the detective’s contact information and the detective confirmed that it was OK for me to email him with any follow-up questions, which I did. The detective promptly replied and answered all of my questions: he confirmed that only the judge made the final decision for granting registry removal, not the prosecutor. (When my brother first registered his parole officer told him that this judge did something unprecedented: he allowed him to continue to live in his home, even though he lived too close to a church school.) Also, the detective gave me the name of a local attorney whose client was successfully removed from registry.
    My brother fears that his chance of being removed from the registry is slim, that it would be a waste of money, plus he dreads going back to court as it provokes his anxiety. He thinks that he would be better off just waiting seven years until his time on the registry ends. He knows that his chances of finding employment in his community are slim, so he plans to live off of his 401k money (he’s 56 and can avoid early withdrawal penalties because of the “over 55 hardship rule”.)
    I think it’s worth it to take a chance on the petition. I have told him that I would pay for the attorney fee. And, I would be with him when he goes to court. Continuing to live with his current situation for the next seven years can take a toll on his health: he’s afraid to leave the house for fear of running into someone who knows him. He drives to another town to do his shopping. He has had death threats. He is not allowed to be away from his home for more than 72 hours. He needs court approval to take a vacation and he would only be approved for seven days at most.
    If removed from the registry, he can move to another state. I’ve told him that he can move to California and live in my home – he would have his own apartment with a separate entrance. I live in Silicon Valley where jobs are plentiful; service jobs go begging and he has experience as a bartender and waiter, so I think he would have a better chance of finding work in California. He would have the option to move back to the Midwest if he doesn’t like California.
    So, we are both curious what other RCs think he should do: file the petition for removal or just wait seven years?

    • E @ Michaeline

      Your note made me smile. I sure am glad for your brother that he’s got you.

      HECK YES he should petition, with the situation described as you did. TOMORROW! Use the atty–worth it to discuss with him, even with the help from the detective.

      I’m rooting for you both. You’re a great sister.

      BTW, what state is this?

      • Michaeline

        Indiana.

        Thank you for the reply!

      • AnotherAnon

        Wow, a ton of loaded questions! All good. My first thought was is there a public defender you or he can talk to? If so, if they do these petitions they would probably have the most experience or could at least answer all your questions without shelling out a ton of $.

        Second though: it sounds like he is on probation, unless just the registry is that severe. Yikes!

        Third thought, even if he got off the registry there, he still might have to register in California until the tiers go into effect (a little less than 3 years, but it would be beneficial to be sure his crime is similar enough to one in the Penal Code here, because if not, no registration here).

        Fourth thought, cool officer to help out!

        Fifth though: cool you!

        Sixth thought: he might not even have to appear in court and if he does, he might not have to say much. I would probably go for it after some more research. The suggested attorney might answer questions before requiring any $ if the PD cannot. Doesn’t hurt to ask.

    • concerned

      since the detective is willing to assist see if he will provide a written statement recommending that your brother be removed and would be a good candidate for removal from the registry

  9. K

    This comment is referring to reduction from felony to misdemeanor, and then expungement. Has anyone done this using recordgone.com? Thoughts and opinions… I have 311.11(a). Convicted March of 2010. Received a few months in jail and five years probation. I had to turn myself in a month after conviction. During that 30 day period I got a violation of probation. Caught a little extra time for that,but all jail time. I have been off probation since March of 2015. No prior convictions or anything. I’m thinking about hiring recordgone but wanted to check opinions first. Thanks guys.

  10. Hysteria

    I am amazed at the number of articles that ACSOL finds pertaining to sex offenders. The constant introduction of bills, revision of laws, and ridiculous stories can only mean one thing. The U.S. has nothing better to do than think about the sex offender. We are an industry. From software designed to find us to a plank on some politician’s election platform, we are the glue holding the hate together in this country.

    Ob a side note, a prospective employer loved my resume, but turned me down due to my registration, not my misdomeanor, but my status.
    So I promptly went and wrote the most critical Yelp review of the business.

    • Tim Moore

      The sex offender hysteria “glue” sticks to just about everyone in this country. Time doesn’t pass too long before I hear someone who otherwise seems very fair, thoughtful, liberal minded and well informed, start to shoot off words like pedophile, pervert, predator as if it was programmed into their brain to say that. I look on a country that is not really that divided when it comes to a common, despised enemy, registrants — even those who claim they otherwise believe in the love of all people. There are about a million of us, just about a third of one percent of the population. There is no reason for them to look to us to fill their open positions. There are many other, “safer”, educated, under represented groups to employ if need be: disabled Americans at around 12.6%, African Americans at 14 %, women at over 50% or that guy with the PhD from India. If it happens for a registrant, it is an accident not the rule. One option is to create our own economies and somehow employ ourselves in it.

    • PK

      @Hysteria

      Do you actually have a Yelp Profile? Or did you just sign-up that day to take care of business?

      If you have been on Yelp for over 1 year, we should talk.

  11. AnotherAnon

    Secret message board drives ‘pizzagate’-style harassment campaign of small businesses
    The theorists are inspired in part by a far-right news website that has been used by prominent Republicans for fundraising efforts.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/secret-message-board-drives-pizzagate-style-harassment-campaign-small-businesses-n903696

    See how easy it is to accuse and how difficult it is to defend?

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