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International Travel 2019

We have updated our main International Travel section. It features:

  1. List of Schengen Nations (allowing entry to registrants);
  2. Resources (including a CA DOJ Travel Notification Form); and
  3. User Submitted Travel Reports.

This post is linked from the Main Menu at the top of the site.

1. The 26 Schengen Nations (which allow registrants to visit)

As an agreement, Schengen was signed among the five out of ten countries of the European Union members back then, on the 14th June 1985. Under the Schengen agreement, travelling from one Schengen country to another is done without any passport and immigration controls or any other formalities previously required.

Austria
Belgium
Czech republic
Denmark
Estonia
Finland

France
Germany
Greece
Hungary
Iceland

Italy
Latvia
Liechtenstein
Lithuania
Luxembourg

Malta
Netherlands
Norway
Poland
Portugal

Slovakia
Slovenia
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland

Note: US Citizens are visa exempt when visiting the Schengen area for up to 90 days in a 180 day period (List of Countries, Section B or map).  The European Commission is proposing creating a European Travel Information and Authorisation System (ETIAS) for such travelers, beginning in 2021 – which may or may not take criminal convictions into account. ETIAS Fact Sheet April 2018July 2018

2. Resources

3. NEW: User Submitted Travel Reports

If you have traveled internationally post-IML we invite you to share your travel experience on the form below. Submissions will be published as a separate post with opportunity for targeted / country specific discussion.

If you have already filled out our previous (unpublished) travel form, please do so again here for publication.

Report your Travel Experience:

International Travel

Personal Info

for follow-up info or answers in comments. Your regular user name or other.
for possible follow-up - not published

Registration Info

Currently Registered *
Listed on Public Website

Travel Info

Entry was *

Visa

Visa Required *
Visa Granted

Advance Notice

Adv. Notice Provided *
Req. by State Law *
how, when, where, etc

Offense Info

Offense Level *
Conv. expunged *
Offense inv Minor *
Passport Identifier *

Comment / Additional Information

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  1. notsurewhattoddo

    Not sure what to do.. I am listed in the National database under my old name from Texas but am no longer required to register in my new state in WA. I called WA to give a 21 day notice and they said since I do not register any longer, they would not be taking my paperwork. Texas told me since I do not live there, they wont take my paperwork either. I do not have a special marked passport but under the IML rules, i am a “covered” offender, because I am listed on the national site because Texas will never take me off. To add to the confusion, Texas only has my old name on their site.. I changed my name once I got off the registry here in WA… Any suggestions on what I should do?

    • CR

      I think you should read the law yourself and try to understand if it applies to you. If unsure, pay a lawyer to advise you. Find one that has experience with IML, preferably.

      As I understand the law, you don’t have to give 21 day notice because you are not required to register in any jurisdiction. You said so yourself. WA doesn’t require you to register. Texas doesn’t require you to register. The fact that you are still on the Texas ML and the national database does not mean you are required to register in that jurisdiction. You only have to register in Texas if you live there or you visit long enough to trigger the registration requirement.

      Having said all that, I am not a lawyer and you should not construe my thoughts on the matter as legal advice.

      Also, even if you are truly not required to give 21 day notice, there’s no guarantee that the USMS or the CBP won’t screw things up and subject you to nightmarish torture, inquisition, detention, or arrest.

      • notsurewhattoddo

        CR.. I thought since I do not register any longer, I would be exempt, but here is the law
        “included in the
        National Sex Offender Registry, on the basis of an offense
        against a minor. ” — this is the part where I am have no idea what to do about?
        :

        (f) DEFINITION.—In this section, the term ‘‘sex offender’’
        means—
        (1) a covered sex offender; or
        (2) an individual required to register under the sex offender
        registration program of any jurisdiction or included in the
        National Sex Offender Registry, on the basis of an offense
        against a minor.

        https://www.congress.gov/114/plaws/publ119/PLAW-114publ119.pdf

        • CR

          I see. That’s why it’s good to read the law. It doesn’t say what I thought it did.

          It seems you are given no way to comply with the travel notice requirement. That your name doesn’t match what is in the registry further complicates things. I wouldn’t bet that it lets you off the hook.

          I wondered why Texas started putting people who had moved out of state back on the list a few years ago after having already removed them previously when they moved away. It may have been to close what they viewed as a loophole that was allowing people to start a new life and escape the scarlet letter they had been assigned for life. A conspiracy among some states, perhaps.

          It’s good that you are seeking legal counsel. I think it’s your only route to clarity.

        • Tuna

          That’s in the section regarding how the Angel Watch Center operates with respect to the travel notifications.

        • AJ

          @notsurewhattoddo & @CR:
          As @Tuna says, the snippet @notsurewhattoddo posted is from Section 4 regarding Angel Watch. That definition is reused in Section 8 regarding State and passports. It gets a little confusing there because Section 8 rewords Section 240 of Title 22, “Foreign Relations and Intercourse” (an ironic title, I say). The RC’s responsibilities and requirements are in Section 6, and there are no specific definitions provided or created. Thus definitions for Section 6 are way at the top in the definitions for the Act, or are inside SORNA.

          In short, it’s my opinion that the use of that definition for AW and State means that they will use the NSOR information for their purposes even if one is no longer required to comply with the provisions of IML. That could (probably: does) mean that though @notsurewhattoddo is not required to submit IML notification, AW may (probably: does) still send out whatever angelic notifications, and State could (probably: does not) issue a Scarlet-letter passport.

          One would have to piece IML’s edits into AWA to get a full and correct reading, but IMO @Tuna’s observation seems to me to point to that definition not mattering on @notsurewhattoddo’s end.

        • Tuna

          Actually, the text reused in Section 8 (regarding who should get the scarlet letter passport) has one key difference: the use of “and” instead of “or”:

          ‘‘(c) DEFINED TERMS.—In this section—
          ‘‘(1) the term ‘covered sex offender’ means an individual
          who—
          ‘‘(A) is a sex offender, as defined in section 4(f) of
          the International Megan’s Law to Prevent Child Exploitation and Other Sexual Crimes Through Advanced
          Notification of Traveling Sex Offenders; and
          ‘‘(B) is currently required to register under the sex
          offender registration program of any jurisdiction;

          So if he is not required to register, he should not get a marked passport. Having said that, I believe posted last year, was a report of at least one instance where a person did get a marked passport, but this was later corrected after either a complaint to State or a suit.

        • AJ

          @Tuna:
          I wasn’t trying to parse the usage of the definition in Section 8, merely pointing out that the definition created in Section 4 is reused elsewhere by direct reference. Given there is no similar wording in the Section RCs care about, the specific definition doesn’t apply; one would need to follow the Act-level ones instead.

          But to your point, that “and” would seem to mean State cannot issue marked passports, meanwhile AW can still send out nasty-grams about us to the world, even if no longer required to register. I don’t personally fret over it because I have no ability to control or change it. AW and State will do what the law says until the law changes or gets struck. I absolutely dislike it, but I have many other things in life which better warrant my hand-wringing.

    • Chris f

      You may try to contact attorney Richard Gladden in Texas. It appears Texas is claiming they dont have the resources for department of public safety to remove people that move or die. They seem to remove people just fine if their term on the registry has been complete. I was removed within a few weeks of my local Texas police department submitting the removal request. You will probably need a court order to speed up being removed. Did you notify the Texas police department where you did your last registration of the move?

      • notsurewhattodo

        Hello Chris F – I am working on a consultation with Richard Gladden. Thanks for the referral. My court order is from WA state to be removed; I am sure it is not valid for Texas since I am a lifetime registrant there. I did notify them back in 2005 when I moved away and was just re-added to the registry in 2011.

    • Chris

      I’m in the same situation, but with different states. Current Nevada resident and released from state registry, but still listed in Florida. Wish I had an answer for you, but have only traveled domestically recently. Was wondering the same though for future trips. I find it amazing that literally no one seems to have an answer for this question which I am assuming will come up for many more people in the next 5-10 years.

      • CR

        “I find it amazing that literally no one seems to have an answer for this question …”

        I think the answer is spelled out in the law itself, which is why I suggested in my previous response to read it.

        But anyway, an experience-based answer, which seems to be what you want, may not be forthcoming for several reasons. First, it is likely that only a small percentage of all registrants frequent this web site, or are even aware of it. Next, not many of us here manage to get out of having to register, so we don’t encounter the circumstance you ask about. Finally, it’s probable that most who do get off the list and have experience with international travel afterwards stop coming here, so they never see such questions.

      • TS

        I will not espouse legal advice on this regarding the person in Washington who is still on the Texas registry though not on the Washington registry; however, I will tell you what I learned that was legal advice given to me when it comes to being removed from the registry and travel notification: Travel notification is not required.

        Still being listed on the Texas registry may present a challenge to the individual and throw a wrench in the works with the United States Marshals, as @CR said, but if they’re off the registry, travel notification by theory and definition is not required as was given to me through legal advice.

    • D

      I have called the Attorney Generals office a few times and they said if your state doesn’t require you to register, you don’t have to report anything to anyone

  2. steve

    Left Paris for Croatia this morning. As I exited they scanned passports and again not a second look. Flew cze airlines with a stop in Prague scanned again no issues. Landed in Split scanned again no issues. On a boat cruising the Croatian islands the next 8 days and not anticipating any issues until we come back to the lovely USA. We saw USA play Sweden in La Havre, Toured the D-day beaches and the Palace of Versailles while in France. Did a lot in 2 1/2 days.

    • Mike G

      @steve

      Happy to hear that Croatia is problem free. We are heading there in September. Keep the good times rolling!

      • steve

        If you want any Croatia tips let me know. Moderator, you have my approval to release email info to Mike G.

        • Mike G

          @steve

          Thanks a lot. The moderators are not too keen about giving out email addresses, but if they do, I’ll be in touch. We are planning to visit Dubrovnik and Vicko (driving past Split), both of which have ports, so maybe you’ll stop there. Then we are planning to head for Plitvice Lakes National Park, but that is somewhat inland, so you probably won’t get there.

          We aren’t anticipating any problems, but we are planning to visit 5 other non-Schengen countries besides Croatia, so I’ll be holding my breath at times…

        • E @ Mike G

          Mike G, after your trip please let us know how the non-Schengen countries go, how you are arriving there (car?), whether you have a marked passport, etc. Thanks!

        • Mike G

          @E

          Will keep you posted (assuming I’m not detained somewhere with no internet access 🙁 ). We will be traveling by tour bus and I do have the marked passport.

  3. Eagle

    Since I was a kid, I have had a life long dream of visiting south asia. There is something beautiful about the culture, the differences but connectives of the people from each country. I think that asian people have been very interesting to me as well. I wanted to know if there was any way I could visit any asian countries on the registry? I have a case of possession of CP and not sure if I would ever get off the registry. I know now Thailand will not accept, what about malaysia, or Indonesia, or China, or Taiwan . THANK YOU in advance

    • Mike G

      @Eagle

      If you fly out of the United States, about the only place in Asia that you have a chance of getting into right now is Hong Kong, but even that could change at any time.

      A few registrants have been successful entering some Southeast Asian countries by flying there from another foreign country. But keep in mind that since you are subject to IML you would have to give 21 day notice to your registering agency of any countries you intend to try and visit, otherwise you could be in jeopardy from US marshals upon your return to the US. Remember that Satan Watch will send notice to whatever country you fly to first from the US. Better make sure that is a country that will allow you in.

      (By the way, no one is more upset about Thailand than me. I was turned away when I flew there with my wife, wanting to meet her family for the first time.)

      • Will Allen

        “Satan Watch”

        That’s the perfect name. I think people should ALWAYS refer to them as that. In some cases, it might have to be explained who/what it is and perhaps in such an explanation a person might say something only like “they refer to themselves as ‘Angel Watch'”.

        I think it is quite beneficial to always label these entities as the P.O.S. evil that they are. Right? We see what labeling does. So let’s use it on them all the time.

        I think if the general public sees these agencies, government, legislators, whatever referred to over and over and over again as criminals, by millions of people, then that will stick. The general public needs to learn that only criminal regimes have Registries and their additional, promoted “laws”. Criminal legislators create them. Law enforcement criminals enforce it. Immoral un-Americans support it all.

        Only criminal regimes:

        1. Have “$EX Offender” Registries.

        2. Run a “$EX Offender” Witch Hunt.

        3. Run “$EX Offender” Apartheid.

        4. Attempt to keep “$EX Offenders” off of social media (which they do ONLY to try to control dissent).

    • Shaggy

      Have you found out anything yet? I want to go to Macau and Mslaysia. I am in Hong Kong, now, and there is NO PROBLEM entering here.

      • AJ

        @Shaggy:
        Though things have changed since I was there*, I don’t recall any passport controls between HK and Macau. We took the TurboJet ferry, maybe that makes a difference.

        *HK was still UK ruled, and Macau was still Portuguese.

  4. steve @Mike G

    The National Park is awesome. On the drive up from Dubrovnik stop at Makarska. Awesome town without the congestion of Split or Dubrovnik. Lots of day trips you can take to the islands. Stari Grad on Hvar was amazing.

    • Notorious D.I.K. / Kennerly

      Isn’t it lovely? I love that drive. I drove the entire coast soon after the Bosnian War. Did you visit the island of Korcula?

      • steve

        Our boat stops in Korcula looking forward to it. The old architecture and paved streets never gets old to look at it truly feels like a movie set.

    • Mike G

      @steve

      I appreciate the info. I’ll add it to our trip folder. Happy you’ve been able to get to all these places! We’re looking forward to it.

  5. Polictical Prisoner

    I am in San Diego, Ca and Just did my yearly with the Sheriff dept. and they wanted me to sign a paper explaining the IML. I told them I would not sign it, they ask me why not and I used the (and) statement in the law that says you need to meet both requirements. They said ok and just wrote refuse to sign. They said it was only if I wanted to go vacation out of the country, I ask them what if I was leaving the country for good, they told me I would just have to sign out of the California registry and the IML would not apply. Comments???

    • Lake County

      Don’t take legal advise from cops. It’s not the local police that you need to worry about, it’s the feds that could arrest you upon return. Even if you planned on never returning, there’s always a chance you might someday have to return.

    • D

      It makes sense. As soon as you tell California that you are leaving them, they are no longer your jurisdiction.

      • E

        Yes! UNLESS Wisconsin has its talons in you. They follow you even into deep space if your conviction was there.

  6. When to notify (D)

    Just got off the phone with the Attorney Generals office again and I asked a few questions.
    1) if I’m moving from the state I register in to another country, do I have to report 21 days in advance. Answer was that it would be nice but notifying the current jurisdiction would suffice. You would have to re register upon returning if you ever do so.
    2) if I move to a new state and they don’t require me to register but my previous state did, do I have to notify the new state of residence of international travel. Answer was No. You only need to report if you are currently registering in a jurisdiction.
    3) Once I am abroad, do I have to notify the US when going to a different country? Answer was No. Once outside the US and successfully in another country, you don’t have to notify US of any other travel. Just reregister upon returning, if your US jurisdiction requires you to.

    • E

      Which AG? Your state’s? Which state? Or USAG?? Hard to believe they gave advice over the phone…

  7. JM from wi

    Question #4- if you’re on Fla. perpetual list does that change any of the above answers.

  8. lee

    Ugh.. just got back from Europe in may and now received the letter to surrender the passport for the “marked” passport. Anyone knows when I go to get new passport, do I need to tell them on the application that I need a passport with the mark or it’s automatic thing?

    Secondly, can marked passport still go to Europe okay?

    • E

      So far so good with Europe. When I applied I filled out the “lost or stolen” form and in the narrative boxes clearly wrote “not lost or stolen. My passport was revoked via certified letter sent from Dept xyz (referenced on the letter)”. The USPS employee said, “oh, I’ve never heard of that”, and I said, “yeah, neither have I. It’s ridiculous.” And that was it. No further details. Pay for expediting.

      • E

        Then spend a little more money ($85 for 5 years) and get PreCheck. You can’t get Global Entry EVER but PreCheck you likely can. Took about 10 days instead of 2-3 days to get approved.

        • Lee

          @E, so TSA Precheck is possible to apply for? I was debating because I am not sure to get Global entry or TSA Precheck though the GE includes TSA recheck as well. Could you clarify if it’s okay to get TSA precheck but not GE?

          So what form should I do to get the marked passport? You said lost and stolen form but Mike said the new passport form. I am so confused.

        • NPS

          @Lee

          Yes, you can apply for TSA Precheck. I applied, was approved, and issued a Known Traveler Number.

        • E @ Lee

          Just go to the State Dept passport website and follow the instructions to apply. It’s very simple. As soon as you mark that you do not any longer have your previous passport it will force you to also complete the lost/stolen form.

          Same as NPS, I was approved for PreCheck. But as posted elsewhere on this site, any felony will disallow you for GE. Not so for PreCheck. They are different programs. GE involves Customs and Border Protection… whole different ballgame and harder yo get than PreCheck.

      • Will Allen

        Your passport was stolen by a criminal regime. Don’t ever support those scumbags. Don’t ever care about anyone who does.

    • Mike G

      @lee

      Welcome to the exclusive club.

      Don’t try to use your revoked passport to apply for the new one – it has been reported that it will be rejected. You must go in person with your birth certificate, etc.

      You should automatically get the marked passport, though several that should have received marked ones got unmarked ones instead. So far, we have not heard from someone getting an unmarked one, traveling, and having the new one revoked again. Hope is that if that did happen, it would not be while you are out of country, but as everyone knows, almost anything can happen to us.

      As @E says, there is no place on the application to indicate revoked, only lost or stolen. I just left both blank, and when the clerk asked which it was, I told her it was revoked. She said ‘Oh, so are you allowed a new one?’ and I said ‘Yeah, they told me to go ahead and apply for a new one.’

      Also, as @E said, you should pay for expediting – otherwise ours seem to take a lot longer than normal.

      During my 8 day European trip in April, no one looked for the marked page, going or coming. We all hope it stays that way!

      • lee

        @Mike G, so you just applied for a new passport by executing a new application form then? On the form, no need to say anything about the revoke as E mentioned? or attached the letter with the passport application?

        • E

          Use a Regular application. Not a renewal form. If you don’t have your current passport anymore you are forced to fill out the lost/stolen form. That’s where you can reference the revocation letter but I did not attach the letter. I didn’t want to help them that much or sit there with a low level USPS employee giving me the stink eye because of the letter.

  9. catch22

    Hello fellow citizens ,
    I am getting older and I want to travel overseas and see some of the world , I predicted this whole International Megans list just prior to my conviction so even though my passport had a bout 5 years left on it I renewed it , now it is good until 2023 so it is not marked or flagged so I am going to try to use it . Any advise ? Since it is not marked do you think I can get away with out filling out the California Intended travel form ? My victim was a 30yo woman 261(a)(4) if that makes any difference . Any advise would be greatly appreciated
    Thanks

    • ocguy

      The special passport is required for those who are currently registered AND whose offense involved a minor (under 18). Your passport should be fine.

    • Mike G

      @catch22

      Since your victim was not a minor, you are not subject to IML, so as ocguy says, your passport should be fine. Also, since California is not a SORNA state, there is no reason for you to give any notice to anyone.

      Do keep in mind, though, that certain countries (i.e. Canada, Mexico, UK and others) may refuse entry strictly on the basis of a criminal conviction for anything. That said, no one is sure which countries have access to the USA criminal database, so some places you may get in with no trouble, but others may stop you, or may pull you aside and question you, then let you in. Most of Europe (other than UK) should not be a problem to visit.

    • JuniorSD

      @catch22

      You absolutely ARE subject to IML if you are still required to register (which since you are in California I assume you are). The advanced travel notification portion of IML applies to all registrants that are currently required to register in any jurisdiction. The passport identifier won’t apply to you. But regardless that California is not SORNA compliant, 21 days notice is still the federal law, and not providing it could end you up in prison. There is a California DOJ form at the top of this thread that you can take to your local registration office 21 days ahead of travel.

      @Mike G
      I know your intentions are good on this, but be careful offering legal advice on something you may not be 100% sure of, as it could get someone in serious trouble. I’m no lawyer either, so I’d recommend anyone that has questions/doubts about what legal requirements they might have should consult a lawyer. My understanding on this topic from reading plenty of threads on it is that whether or not states are SORNA compliant has no bearing on IML applying. It may be more difficult to provide notice in those states, but people traveling should still cover themselves.

      • TS

        @JrSD

        Thank you for reiterating that. Regardless, make the attempt to notify, document it, keep it with you as proof, and travel knowing you did your part. By doing that, your defense is set if the traveler is challenged. No oops, no ten years in the pokey, no denying travel.

        • David

          I had to do my annual registration this week. And while there, chatting with the registering agent, who informed me that she knows of several registrants who visit Mexico regularly, “they just drive across the border”. So could someone enlighten me: Are you at legal risk in the U.S. (for not giving 21 day notice), if you go into another Country with advance-noticing OUR federales??

        • E

          If they’re not giving her notice, how would she know?

        • TS

          @David

          Yes, you are at legal risk for not giving 21 day travel notification in the USA as required if you need to do so.

          And why should you trust this registration agent you talked with? If she says people are ok with jumping into a pit of sulfuric acid, would you do it? Does she know the situation these people are just driving across under, e.g. 21 day travel notification given, certain registry tier level, which crossing they are crossing at without issue, etc? Without more specs, she should not be saying what she is saying.

        • AJ

          @TS:
          “If she says people are ok with jumping into a pit of sulfuric acid, would you do it?”
          —–
          Now, now. Be nice. I prefer to quote the late, great John Candy (who died in Mexico while filming a movie) from “Planes, Trains, and Automobiles”: ‘If they told you wolverines would make good house pets, would you believe them?’

      • NeedtoKnow

        @JuniorSD – you should listen to your own advice.

        @catch22 – you clearly state your victim was 30 years old. IML does not apply to you. It only applies to “child sex offenders.” You can just read the law.

        • JuniorSD

          @NeedtoKnow
          Sorry dude you are completely wrong. IML applies to anyone who is required to register, for any offense, in any jurisdiction. The passport identifier is the portion of the law that only applies to what IML calls “covered sex offenders” which is those who are required to register AND have an offense involving minors. But if you insist on believing otherwise, go ahead and travel at will without giving advanced notice and cross your fingers that the US Marshalls don’t scoop you up at some point.

    • AJ

      IML has some provisions which apply to jurisdictions (i.e. States, Tribes, and Territories), and some which apply to citizens (i.e. RCs). States, and ONLY States (not Tribes, not Territories) have Tenth Amendment rights which allow them to ignore some Federal laws. Citizens, however, have no such constitutional right. With that in mind, I’m confused how anyone thinks that because their particular State is non-SORNA they now have a right to ignore his/her responsibilities according to IML.

      I would appreciate it if someone who believes a resident of a non-SORNA State is exempt from IML reporting requirements would explain the source of and authority for that position.

  10. Mike G

    @Everyone

    I apologize for giving out information based on what I was told by my brother in the State Department at the time IML was signed into law.

    Until I have time to go back and read and study the law, and find out who is right and who is wrong, please DISREGARD any information I have posted regarding giving 21 day notice before traveling.

    Thank you.

    (Now back into my hidey hole…)

    • AJ

      @Mike G:
      You’ve unwittingly proven something that gets said on here a lot: don’t trust the “experts” (no maligning of your kin meant) in Government on any of this. They have zero reason to be well-educated on the ins and outs, and they have zero risk for being wrong. We are the exact opposite. Like it or not, (collective) we are the subject matter experts on this stuff. That doesn’t mean we’re lawyers or anything; it means we’ve tested the defenses of the enemy enough times to know the outcomes and behaviors.

      • Mike G

        @AJ

        Have always felt your comments were well thought out and accurate, so I will cede to the higher authority. I appreciate your taking the time to keep an eye on us and straighten us out when we get off course. Great that we have your due diligence to count on. 🙂

        P.S. My brother has since retired from the State Department, so I’m letting him off the hook.

        • AJ

          @Mike G:
          Thank you, sir. I don’t know that I always succeed doing as you state, but I strive for it. We’re all here to support and help one another, is my take. I do what I can and try to have verifiable info for what I state.

  11. steve

    Winding down the cruise portion of the trip. Just left Korcula and headed for the island of Mjet then on Friday we will be in Dubrovnik. I did forget to mention when you board the boat the Captain collects all the passports. So if you have the sor stamp get the passport cover so it would be hard to expose if someone feels like checking out in depth everyone’s passport. It’s nice the boats have wifi🇭🇷

    • Mike G

      @steve

      Happy your trip is going well. Did your boat have food on it like a cruise ship, or did you have to fend for yourself?
      Let us know if there is anything in Dubrovnik that we just can’t miss. Thanks.

    • Lake County

      I wonder why the captain takes all the passports? That would sure make it easier for a terrorist group to go onboard and easily find all the passports in one place to help the terrorists find any particular citizens they want to hurt. Like when the Achille Lauro was taken over by the Palestine Liberation Front and they killed the Jewish-American man Leon Klinghoffer. I’d prefer to have my passport in my possession so I could hide or destroy it in that situation. There are many terrorist groups that don’t like Americans or Jews.

      • steve

        We are on a 30 person boat seriously doubt that scenario would ever happen. He has to check in at every port and we have visited 7 so much easier if he holds on to them rather than me having to keep digging them out.

      • steve

        @Lake county…after talking to our captain the truth comes out, in a heavy Croatian accent, “we have to make sure you pay bar bill, then you get passport back” Big laugh …

  12. steve@mike g

    Mike here is a little tidbit. When driving up from Dubrovnik there is a little slice of Bosnia you go through and you’ll have to present your passport. Then in about 2 miles or so you’ll have to present it again reentering Croatia. Stay in the far left lane that is for all passports. Other lane is for EU and a couple others. If you’re on a bus they make everyone exit to present it. Kinda whack but no big deal. Sailed right thru. It’s going to be very hot when you are here. Do the walls early morning or late at night. It’s packed there and hot. Make sure you find some Cevapcci to eat. It’s excellent. Do the Buzza bar. Side of a cliff and really awesome view. Heading to wife’s families village in Hercegovina tomorrow than we fly back on the 4th. Will report back reentering experience then. Everyone speaks pretty good English here FYI. My wife is fluent so that was a bonus.

  13. steve

    Will be making my way back today. I’ve had no issues with anyone scanning my passports. No extra time looking at and no funny looks until this morning scanning my passport in Munich. She saw something on the screen and looked at all my stamps. Stamped me and said have a good day sir. I’ve been thru 4 countries and probably have 12 stamps. My wife’s flight was cancelled and they offered to reschedule for July 19th!!!!WTH. I had to spend 3k to get them on another airline and that one doesn’t even leave until the 5th. Never fly with Level. They are cheap but pay the extra for a real airline.

    • Mike G

      @steve

      For some reason, some of my previous comments to you are not showing up. I did respond to most of your posts – thanks for the info.

      You may recall when I flew into Munich, they saw something on the screen also, but after the agent conversed with another agent, he stamped my passport and said have a good day.

      Sorry to hear about your airline woes. I’ve never heard of Level, but I’ll remember to avoid them! We are on Turkish Air for our upcoming trip.

      Hope you get through Secondary with a minimum of fuss!

      • E @ Mike G

        Mike, you’re going thru Istanbul? Are you transferring there or going thru passport control and staying in Turkey? I’m anxious to hear how that transfer goes.

        • Mike G

          @E

          On our way to Athens, we are just transiting through Istanbul. We have a fairly short connection time, so I hope we don’t have to deal with passport control, customs, or anything else.

          On our way back, we have a fairly long layover in Istanbul. If things go smoothly on the trip in, we might get brave and try for an online visa so we can get on one of Turkish Air’s free excursions into the city from the airport.

          I’ll be sure to let you know how everything goes.

        • E @ Mike G

          Excellent, thanks!

  14. steve

    Ok so after dealing with my wife’s flight
    Mine got cancelled also. Lufthansa was great. Booked me a new hotel and new flight after waiting in a 2hr line. New flight was Munich to Frankfurt / Frankfurt to Seattle/Seattle LAX. No problems with my passport in Any country I visited. I got a little nervous about Seattle customs. During the flight a fight attendant approached me and told me someone would be meeting me at the exit because I have a tight connection. So my mind starts going wondering who it will be. Turns out it was a Lufthansa rep who gave me an express pass thru customs. They bring me all the way to the front and got a really cool inspector who pulled up my passport. We chatted and he excused himself and they told me someone would be downstairs at baggage to meet with me. Gave my passport to the officer who told me to get my bag and meet her at the exit. I knew secondary was coming.
    Got interviewed. Where I visited etc…they had my bags up there to check but said never mind and hope you make it to your connection. As I walked out with the lady CBP she said “you know why we pulled you out right” I said yes and thank you for being very professional. I had to deal with 3 different CBP agents they all were very nice and polite. A+ for Seattle.

    • E

      Good news. Appreciate the reports!

    • Mike G

      @steve

      Looks like all’s well that ends well! Sorry about all of your airplane woes, but appears that you were treated well. We were happy with Lufthansa. Also good that kids and kids friends weren’t with you when dealing with CBP in Seattle, though it appears CBP treated you fairly well!

      I am curious whether you noticed any of the CBP people looking for the passport mark, or whether anyone asked if you had given your 21 day notice.

      Wish we could get together and chat about Croatia, but I guess that would be tough with our current statuses. I have taken note of all your suggested things to see, and if possible, we will check them out.

      Thanks again for all your timely updates!

      • steve

        Nobody looked for the mark nor did anyone ask about 21 day notice. I am only guessing but at the initial CBP encounter when he first scanned my passport it only comes up as a flag and doesn’t tell the officer what the crime is. I say this because he didn’t treat me any different after he scanned it. Also nobody asked about my conviction.

        • Mike G

          @steve

          I think that is pretty much all good news. In all my dealings with CBP, I can only think of a couple of times anyone has asked any detail about what I did. I’m fine with sharing that since it was quite minor compared to what is probably in their mind. I think it must show on their screen that the conviction involved a minor, because I have been asked several times if I was married, and I’d say yes, for over 40 years, and they’d look shocked and say “…and she stayed with you after that?”

          Let’s hope that the evil mark and the 21 day notice continue to ignored for some time to come 🙂

    • KM

      It might be easier to just sneak across the southern border next time.

  15. IML

    Looks like this conference is in Texas. A bit pricing, but if anyone can attend, would be great to geet feedback on this one session. https://www.eventscribe.com/2019/CACC/fsPopup.asp?efp=RVJJU1FaRlU1OTMz&PresentationID=510744&rnd=0.6325008&mode=presinfo

    Here’s the conference info: http://www.cacconference.org/

    • Mike G

      @IML

      It would be interesting to hear if the US Marshall’s service is being encouraged to more strongly enforce IML, by whatever method.

      From reading their descriptions, you would think they think that finding 100% of the non-compliant RCs out there would eliminate all child sex crimes. By the same token, you would think they think that stopping RCs from traveling would eliminate all international child sex crimes.

      It would be much more meaningful if they could produce statistics showing how many child sex crimes are committed by non-compliant RCs, and statistics of how many sex crimes in other countries are committed by visiting RCs.

      Of course, those numbers would be so low, there is no way they could justify the millions if not billions of dollars they spend to harass us and keep the public in abject fear of us.

  16. BlueSkyeSteve

    Does anyone know if it makes a difference traveling to a country like Jamaica and Costa Rica if you have an identifier or not? These are countries that have no laws against admitting sex offenders, but some sex offenders have reported being sent home from them anyway since IML. I’ve been to Jamaica three times with no issue, but that was all before 2016. Even though my offense is 1 count of cp, when I renewed my passport last month, there was no identifier on it. I’m not sure if that was lucky oversight, or because my federal charge specified I had no victims.

    In any case, I’m wondering if countries like the two I listed above make any distinction between those with passports with the special identifier and those that don’t? Does anyone have any experience of getting in since 2016, or suggest ways I could find out?

    Thanks for your time.

    • Will Allen

      “$EX offenders” should be in prison. If a country knows that a “$EX offender” is trying to enter their country, why would they not arrest them and hold them for extradition?

    • Mike G

      @BlueSkyeSteve

      So far, no RC has reported being denied entry to a country due to a marked passport. Actually, no one has reported that anyone outside the US has even looked at the mark in a marked passport.

      • Notorious D.I.K. / Kennerly

        Mike G, Probably because the notifications that exist entirely separately from the passport marking already fulfill the goal of refusing entry to registrants. The passport marking is just a gratuitous and symbolic degradation that probably has more to do with further degrading his interaction with banks, hotels, travel agents, etc. In other words, icing on the cake.

        • David

          The “mark of the devil” may be gratuitous, but my passport bearing that mark did cost me $135 (while my revoked passport had still been good for 7 more years.)
          F.U.U.S.!

        • Notorious D.I.K. / Kennerly

          David, I didn’t mean gratuitous as in “free” but gratuitous as in needlessly cruel, vindictive and, in this case, expensive. “Piling-on” in other words.

  17. lee

    Hi, so just to give me an average time. How long does it take to get the passport after apply for a passport and have the mark with the expedite method?

  18. Lee

    Oh my god, I just saw that Tahiti does not turn away RSO visiting? Is that true? So I can visit Bora Bora with my partner then? That’s always been the place we want to go for anniversary. I appreciate that travel matrix; however, it does not say what happened or how it happened even with the success ones, and how long ago was it, etc. We really need those kind of data points to educate ourselves better for traveling.

    http://registranttag.org/resources/travel-matrix/

    • James I

      Dear Lee:

      I think this is so because Tahiti is technically part of France still…as Bonaire is part of the Netherlands.

      Both destinations look to be good….but this is no promise from me; we never really know and often travel is a leap of faith.

      But it is a jump we need to do from time to time.

      Best Wishes, and Good Luck, James I

      PS Also, if you’re looking for a first time passport, ask and pay a little for for expedited service.

    • E @ Lee

      Let us know how it goes! Sounds like a dream vaca.

    • Mike G

      Yes! Does look like a Rosa Parks to me! Janice?

      • Notorious D.I.K. / Kennerly

        Except that, instead of a “bus seat,” it’s a seat on an airplane. Now, is this why they’re always giving me a seat on the back of the plane? Hmm…

    • JM of Wi.

      Kind of interesting that with or without a 21 day notification ”they” know when we leave and when we return. They can send the dire warnings through angel watch with or without notifications. Children everywhere are safe with or without notifications. Maybe the notifications separate the sheep from the wolves….Blaaaaaa

      • Notorious D.I.K. / Kennerly

        They’ve known it all along. The system is nothing if not redundant.

        In this respect, the IML is just giving them a basis for criminally charging us for not properly notifying them. Everything works to their advantage and never to ours’.

        Aren’t databases wonderful?

    • E

      As I read it he was apprehended when he came back into the US at customs, not before he left…. that’s interesting.

      • Mike G

        @E

        I don’t think they could of arrested him before he left the country because he hadn’t violated IML yet.

        What I don’t get is how he was able to get into Honduras and stay for a month…

        • Notorious D.I.K. / Kennerly

          They arrested a guy I believe was from Michigan, and charged him for violating IML several years ago, before he boarded a flight out of O’Hare to Europe.

        • E

          Mike G, DIK is right. It was actually at Detroit, I believe. Feds arrested him for attempting to travel without notifying…

        • Mike G

          Wow! So you can get arrested for attempted violation of IML. So I guess if you purchase an airline ticket out of the country, if you haven’t given notice, you could be arrested 20 days before the flight leaves.

  19. TS

    @Rueben

    Recently, you needed to do short notice travel to Central America for business relating to your deceased father. What did you end up doing for the travel notification and how did the travel go with it? We’d be interested to hear your experience.

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