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Only corrupt, criminal regimes have $EX Offender Registries.

The longer I live, the more and more strongly I understand that governments, organizations, people, etc. are rarely going to do what I want. People learn that early on as a child, of course, but I feel I find better understanding of that daily and it helps me to better deal with the world in general.

It is easy to feel powerless with respect to the Registries and their harassment. I’ve mentioned many times that I’ve lost patience with expecting the criminal regimes or people in general to do the right thing. The Registries should not exist. But I don’t think they are going anywhere.

Nearly two decades ago I decided that the Registries were immoral and wrong and that the people who supported them had to be punished. So I decided at that time to take actions that would ensure that I would win the Registry war no matter what they did to me. So I did. I made it so they could have murdered me at any time and I will still have won. That was important to me and my sanity.

Today, with respect to me at least, the criminal regimes are getting nothing from their Registries. I neutralized them long ago. But they are still paying for them. I’ve set up actions that cost them every day. That ensure that their Registries are counterproductive and very harmful. The criminal regimes lost the war long ago but today they are still taking casualties. They’ll pay at least until they destroy their Registries. If they destroy me, they’ll continue to pay. I do enjoy that thought.

I encourage everyone to not just sit around and wait or expect for the Registries to suddenly get moral or disappear. Registries aren’t acceptable. Make that matter every single day.

As I read more articles about expanding not only offenses, but ages of those affected by them, I realize that this stone is turning into a boulder.
It has reached a point where, if you are in bed with your wife and your child walks into the bedroom, you are susceptible to more than a few sexual offenses:
Indecent exposure
Child abuse
Child porn ( if they climb under the covers and a family pic is taken )
and I’m sure others.
All your kid has to do is mention this to another person ( even a relative ) and you have a good chance of getting convicted and being put on the registry ( and possibly losing custody of child ).

This is the cliff that people have backed themselves up to without thinking. The puritan that reports a “crime” could be the next to break one.
Here’s the solution.
We seperate boys and girls at birth. We don’t allow ANY contact going forward. All ages are kept in their own groups throughout their lives. Artificial incimination is the only form of inpregnation. This is done only by a female doctor. At this point we can remove the word “sex” from all literature. Upon death the body is immediately cremated. There, I have solved the problem. OR……….. Society can wake up and see the obsurdity of the entire process, stop trying to over regulate EVERY part of a person’s life, and instead work on making a society where the term sex is associated with love, not Prison!

Hey guys this is a topic that comes up a lot. I was convicted in 2004 of 664/288(a) attempted lewd acts with child under 14. A police sting. Expunged in 2010.

I’ve read a few success stories about getting a COR from some people on here. I filed with San Bernardino county public defender and 6 months later got a reply saying I was ineligible. I called Rose at the LA county office and she said that wasn’t true but I’m getting mixed answers. I’m in California. Anyone with any advice or experience in San Bernardino county? I need help badly in this. Your support is appreciated.

Does anyone know if NV does a CoR or anything like that??? This whole AWA thing has made my fiancee lose multiple jobs now and it’s just rediculous

Over the past 20 years, even while on supervision, I was politically active, was an active member of my religious community, served on the board of a non-profit, held a job, started a company, traveled, and built a relationship. Did being on the registry make all that more difficult? Without a doubt. Did it sometimes limit the level of my interactions or participation? You bet. Did I get angry and bitch and moan about it? Many times.

I get it that being on the registry is a difficult thing. I’ve been playing their game for nearly 20 years. But, I refuse to let it define me or limit what I do any more than necessary. I will also not let the stupidity of the registry and those that support it keep me from doing what I can to help those around me when possible or push me to hide in a corner, afraid of going out in the world.

Don’t let them win. Prove them wrong by staying determined to succeed in spite of their efforts to shut us out.

Hey All,

is there anyone out there that can help with any sort of employment opportunities? I have applied all over my state (CT) and have had no luck with anything. Companies are not allowed to ask about criminal history in an application/interview but I am having trouble even getting to the interview stage. I’m sure a simple google search will reveal to the potential employer my sordid past. Any suggestions on where to go? I would even move states if it meant gainful employment. Running out of steam here…and I need something soon.

What ever happened to the RC that posted as “David Kennerly?” I always enjoyed his comments and hope he is OK.

Alright it is 2020 what is the current status of the efforts to amend the tiered registry law that begins going into effect 01.01.2021?

What do you think .
This organization ” ACSOL” has done more to help me deal with my situation than any thing else. There are over 100,000 others out there , many who don’t know about ACSOL. Getting more people involved will help us all. and help them also. I have thought about options on how to let other , members of our club , know about ACSOL.
A thought is to ask the sheriffs office where I register if they would be willing to hand out a pamplet about ACSOL. to those who register. I have no idea how they will respond . I have nothing to loose.

Finding ways to educate the general public about the facts, The fact that the registery does more harm than good, the fact that reoffending rates are very low. How to change public oppion is , a tougher one.

Are there Other ideas out there on things we can do to effect positive changes ?

As one of the many on the registry, being placed on it in 2005 when they changed the laws, (my offense was in 1989), I served my 5 years probation with an SIS.
I have been doing some research and found that being added to the registry 15 years after the fact, is indeed a violation of my constitutional rights of being punished twice for the same offense.
They can twist it all they want, but facts are facts…
Cornell university law states that putting a person’s past criminal history into a public forum, which the registry is, constitutes “public criminal shaming ” and “public criminal humiliation ” which are both forms of punishment. X2
SORA and SORNA have singled out people with sex offenses with prejudice, seeking revenge and retribution for the murders of children that I had nothing to do with.
They say “the registry is to “inform” parents to keep their children safe”.
If that’s the case, where is the list of “dangerous drug dealers” or “violent domestic abusers” or ” dangerous alcoholics ” or murderers who have recently been released?
I am currently fighting a battle after 30 years for “failure to register ” a FB account that I never used. I wonder if it has anything to do with my being able to petition to be removed from the registry this year. Hmmm?
Also, over the past 2 years I have been arrested 3 times and spent a total of 2 weeks in jail, and cost me over 20 grand in attorney fees. (More punishment) they are trying everything they can to keep me from petitioning because once I get a felony, my chances are gone.
Unfortunately, I live in one of the most corrupt counties in Missouri.
Another observation I have made is that being punished for failure to register is being punished AGAIN for my original offense because without my guilty plea for my original offense, I would not be on the list and my guilty plea, which I took to protect my family on the advice from my public defender, at the time, is attached to my original offense and nothing else, so they are in essence punishing me for “failure to register ” because I took a guilty plea for my original offense.
So I ask again, where are the lists of all these other dangerous people?
Hopefully, some of this information can be used to reverse some, or all of these ridiculous laws.
It’s really a shame that we have to fight the criminals in our “legal ” system to get our lives back.
Please feel free to share this information with anyone you think can help…

I have a charge for Indecency with a Child by Exposure (3rd degree felony) Took the plea deal 5 years probation, 10 years post registration (Deferred Adjudication).

I asked on avvo.com if I could get off probation early and here are couple responses I got which is not the answer I was hoping for…..

lawyer 1 – The Legislature recently made certain offenders of certain offenses ineligible for early termination. Yours is one of those crimes. It is that the crime was committed with “a child” that places you in a special group of offender. The law will have to change before your eligibility for early termination will change.

lawyer 2 –
1. Reportable sex crimes are not eligible for early termination of deferred adjudication.
2. Five years is the absolute minimum legal period of deferred for felony Indecency w/a Child.

Does anyone know someone like Janice who is fighting laws in TEXAS? I love how other states are progressing but I cant find any news here in my state.

Need a quick answer. My employer would like me to go to a conference in California, will be there for only 3 days if I go. Do I have to register if only for 3 days?

My employer wants me to attend a conference in California which will last 3 days. I am not currently required to register in my state of residence.

I have called two attorneys in California and both said I should be fine as long as I don’t stay over 30-days. However, the travel chart and other references say all offender shall register within 5 days of entry to the state, which is it?

Well, for those whom have been following, and those who haven’t, here is my last filing in the Ninth Circuit which is spawned from an accumulation of an almost three year journey and some devoted individuals who have been there the entire processes.
https://ufile.io/w6895al0
This is just a final rebuttal so it is short and to the points, the record is extensive in this case already.

@ Mike R,

I like how you’re not trying to overturn Smith v Doe, but using it as the foundation that the current implementation of the registration goes beyond Smith v Doe, which is what Michigan’s Doe v Snyder compared (which also included in-person registration as going beyond Smith v Doe).

I also do like how you identify current laws that are still being implemented that are unconstitutional as ruled by the California Supreme Courts. Rather than piecemeal one law out, you’re actually applying it to the whole registry. If one part is faulty, then the whole regime must be faulty.

I hope it works.

I dunno if you knew this, but there’s a blanket denial of access onto military bases if you’re a registrant. Thus, your information is being used as a proactive tool to deny access as opposed as a tool to just “being available upon request”. That rule is called IMCOM OPORD. Although, you can petition for a waiver. Whether you’re visiting a friend or have a job interview with a third party employer on a military base, a background check is run at every checkpoint entry which includes the registry.

A military base isn’t a K-12 school. So I dunno how you can get denied access. Still, you’re labeled as an immediate threat and banned. That’s going beyond the statutory purposes. LoL

Get after ’em, Mike! And God speed!

So I did my yearly here in California a couple of weeks ago and I noticed something I hadn’t seen before. I mean, I’m sure it’s always been there I’ve just hadn’t really paid attention.

In the list of the items and conditions you need to read and initial, the very first one says “Duty to register is for life except as provided in 290.5 or 290.05 [I think that’s what it said] or by court order.”

“… or by court order.” So… how does one go about getting one of these magical court orders that removes their duty to register?

Is this really possible?

INTERNET EXCLUSION APPLICATION Has anyone every applied for this and been successful? It comes from California Department of Justice. I have a Certificate of Rehabilitation /
Thanks

Has anyone traveled to Puerto Rico for a short vacation and registered (or didn’t) with the local police? How did that go? My wife and I are going in February and I will be registering my change of address at home before I leave and I assume the police here will call the PR police to let them know I’m coming, so I will have to register when I arrive there. What are the procedures?

P.C. 288.2 is tier three as the law is currently listed. Not that it really matter, but a number of people have been talking about 664/288(a)s and 288.2s getting reduced or expunged. These must be for those that did not get prison but only county time and/or probation, correct?

It’s happened. Someone used the registry to try to shame a completely innocent business owner.

Several letters were sent to surrounding businesses claiming to be the New Jersey AG or its office warning about a man who owned a business. The police have indicate it’s a hoax, and they are going all out to find out who sent the letters.

Too bad real registrants who receive far worse harassment only get the “file it and we’ll get around to it maybe” attitude when we file a complaint.

https://abc7ny.com/5829913/

I saw on a different forum recently that someone called an RP a “Citizen Required to Register”. I wrote the following in response to that:

I’ve been reading and writing a LOT about the illegal Registries for over 2 decades and I can’t actually recall seeing that label before! I find that surprising.

I think that it is very, extremely, critically important to brand the people who are listed on the Registries with some good, accurate label. “Registered Citizen” and “Registered Person” is being widely used. Those work fairly well for me.

But I’m not too keen on the “citizen” part. Obviously, RPs (including me) are not REALLY citizens. RPs are sub-citizens. Also, personally, I feel like the Registries themselves have nearly completely relieved me of my obligations to be a good U.S. citizen. That has been insanely liberating and I’ve really got no concern about being obligated again. Registry Nazis don’t think I’m a citizen and I’m happy to not have to care about acting like one.

But how about “Person Forced to Register”? PFR. It has nearly the connotations of CRR but I much prefer it. “Required” is way too nice for me.

I also like “Person Registered for Punishment, Restrictions, and Harassment”. PRPRH. I find that to be very accurate. Personally, I’m going to use one of these last two.

I think if the media, criminal legislators, law enforcement criminals, and the general public keep seeing such a label over and over and over again, from hundreds of thousands of people, for years, that it will make a really big difference. The Registry War is a PR war. Facts are not exceptionally important. Brain-dead people have little need for them.

Along these lines, I’m going to start attaching a “motto” of sorts to everything I post. Wouldn’t it be great if we could all use the same one? I’ve got to mess around and find something I like. I have been using what I will put here as the last paragraph. I like most of it but I’m not sure about the optics of framing the Registries as a huge pile of excrement. That is extremely accurate but I’m not sure I love it. Anyway, this is it:

Reality: The $EX Offender Registries are nothing but a giant pile of excrement. They are clearly not needed or beneficial. That is trivial to prove. There is nothing legitimate about them. They are nothing but harassment by out-of-control Nanny Big Government and the emperor never had any clothes. They are all liars.

So, it appears you can only get a 1203.4 if you did not receive a prison sentence only probation. In order to get a CoR you must first get a 1203.4, so since I fought it and went to prison it appears I am stuck with it. Correct me if I am wrong.

But @Mott stated,
“I did receive a Certificate of Rehabilitation for my 664/288(a) in Los Angeles County Superior Court; my offense was 18 years ago and required 4 letters of character reference and a letter from a psychologist showing my treatment and “very unlikely to reoffend” used Public Defender for the court. I did serve 22 months in prison”

So I am confused with the prison aspect.

And what exactly did the CoR do for you?

On a different note altogether, MIT is making a big fuss over Jeffrey Epstein donating money to them and visiting the campus. Epstein is dead, so what is this…self-flaggilation for the error of their ways?? And with regard to Epstein visiting my their campus, so what?? He wasn’t there regularly, he was neither a professor nor student, so is every PRR (Person Required to Register) to notify every college/university every time they step on campus? If I go to a college for a community townhall meeting, am I supposed to register with campus police? For being there one hour?? Surrounded by individuals who are ALL OVER 18 Y.O.?? When does this foolishness end??