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ACSOL Leads Successful Lobby Day 2020 in CA Capitol

The Alliance for Constitutional Sex Offense Laws (ACSOL) led more than 35 people, including registrants, family members and supporters in Lobby Day 2020 in the California Capitol.  The focus of the day was necessary changes to the Tiered Registry Law that will become effective next year.

“We met in the offices of 28 legislators, who are either members of a Public Safety Committee or were newly elected last year,” stated ACSOL Executive Director Janice Bellucci.  “These are the legislators who will lead the way toward a tiered registry that increases public safety and protects civil rights.”

Lobby Day 2020 began with a training session for all participants, including seven Team Leaders.  Following that training, participants met with the leader of the team to which they were assigned.  The teams then met in legislative offices where appointments had already been made as well as drop-by meetings in offices where participants are constituents.

The participants in Lobby Day 2020 included both veterans who have participated in previous Lobby Days as well as those new to the lobbying process.

“I feel empowered,” stated one person new to the lobbying process.  “The people with whom my team met were willing to listen to what I had to say.”

“We made progress today toward correcting the mistakes made in the original Tiered Registry Law,” stated a veteran Lobby Day participant.  “I plan to return next year to ensure that those mistakes have been corrected.”

Due to the growing interest in Lobby Day, ACSOL leaders plan to change sign-up procedures in order to expand participation in next year’s event.  Although a specific date has not yet been set, Lobby Day 2021 will take place in the month of February.

 

 

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  1. Roger H

    It was great to have so many people who showed up, stood up, and spoke up! We went to many legislators offices and were pleased to have most of them attentive and asking questions.

    We made a difference! I’m proud of my team and all others who sacrificed their time and resources to help all registrants.

    We hope the rest of you will take part in this next time. It will fill you with hope!

  2. Eric

    Thank you to all who attended, or made contacts, or jsut supported ACSOL in some way. Brighter days are on the horizon.

  3. Jo

    Thank you Janice and Team, and all who showed up and spoke up!

  4. G4Change

    Thank you, Janice and everyone who showed up and stood up! I was there with you in spirit, and I prayed for all of you several times yesterday. Thank you for representing the rest of us who couldn’t make it.

  5. Monique

    Thank You JB for all the efforts you put into this organization and others to make this happen. Lobby Day was a success. I was empowered to be able to advocate for my family member while still inside. I’m looking forward for 2021.

    Monique

  6. Bill

    That’s awesome! Thank you Janice and company for being there for us and speaking on our behalf!

  7. Derek W. Logue of OnceFallen.com

    how can a “tiered” registry promote public safety? That’s such a silly thing for a group opposing the registry to say. Whose side are you on, Janice?

    Either oppose the registry or support it. There’s no middle ground.

    • SR

      There is a middle ground if you eventually want to win the war. Going in all or nothing is a good way to get shut down for years or decades.

    • Will Allen

      Of course there can be a middle ground. There are a lot of people who think a tiered Registry is just perfect. And, as I’ve said a billion times, Registries do make “common sense” and a tiered one makes even more. I personally know that Registries are worthless and idiotic, but that doesn’t change the fact that they make “common sense”. They SEEM sensible.

      Personally, I don’t think anyone should ever say anything that signals in any way that Registries even have anything to do with public safety. I think that should always be avoided.

      Registries are not FOR public safety. That isn’t why they exist. They are for harassment and big government.

      But, I do believe that a tiered Registry will help public safety because it will/should reduce the amount of harassment that most People Forced to Register will face. THAT improves public safety.

      People are ignoring it and don’t even really seem to care, but there are plenty of people who are retaliating just because the Registries exist. I’m not waiting for any judicial fix of the Registries. I’m certainly not waiting on any criminal politicians to fix it. My patience ended. I’m the judge and jury now. Every day that I’m listed causes people harm. The more they harass me, the more harm there will be. Lowering their harassment of me will definitely increase public safety. Everyone should take that stance.

      Message to Registry Supporters/Terrorists: Sic semper tyrannis. Here’s a famous quote for you – “You think you can be ruthless? Let’s see how you like it when the fighting is brought to you.”

      • Derek W. Logue of OnceFallen.com

        These replies show me that none of you supporting this understand the gravity of the words that were written.

        If the goal is “ioncrementalism” as Janice has claimed, she’s making it HARDER for any long term goal by claiming a Tiered Registry can protect the public. These words will come back on her someday when (or even if) a point is reached where there is a step closer to dismantling the registry.

        • Derek W. Logue of OnceFallen.com

          I also disagree that a tiered registry reduces harassment. Many people don’t consider Tier levels. But even when they do, plenty of people classified as high risk aren’t high risk. If anything it INCREASES discrimination.

          If you honestly believe that I hope you aren’t among those lobbying for registered persons.

        • Will Allen

          Umm, I said, “Personally, I don’t think anyone should ever say anything that signals in any way that Registries even have anything to do with public safety. I think that should always be avoided.”

          So I understand it. I also don’t think anyone should ever say “$EX offender” either. Not in any context. But people keep supporting all of it.

          I think ACSOL had a very difficult time trying to decide what route to take regarding the tiered Registries. Regardless of what they choose, unlike zealous Registry Supporters/Terrorists, I think they are good people with good intentions.

          But I think tiered Registries are a gigantic mistake. I expect the biggest effect of them is that they will much more solidly entrench the Registries and frame them as sensible and legitimate. Tiers will reduce the number of people who are subject to Registration and while that is good for public safety, the economy, and everything else, it is terrible because nearly ALL of those people will stop opposing the Registries in any meaningful way.

          Regarding the “reduced harassment” part, I wasn’t really referring to the clueless, brainless general public. I was talking about harassment from the criminal regimes. And it wasn’t specific to CA, I don’t live there and I don’t know the current or new rules. But in the state where I live for example, people who are “tier 3” are required to visit the offices of the criminal regimes more often. They are required to wear GPS (been recent court decisions regarding that actually). That would be a huge deal. I just know that if I personally were forced to do that, it would be a huge public safety problem. That’s what I meant. The more you harass a person, the more dangerous they are.

          I think Registries are here to stay for a long time. I figured that out 15 years ago which is why I decided then that I would make the criminal regimes immediately pay a price that was more consequential and of more worth than my very life. So I made them pay. But I haven’t stopped. And I won’t as long as I’m listed. No one really cares what I do except for the people being directly affected. Everyone else is just fine with it. It’s all just part of the war so harassers can have their Registries and get their jollies. People are stupid and hateful. Always have been. So everything must burn and this country will continue to rapidly devolve.

    • G4Change

      “Whose side are you on, Janice?”

      Really, Derek?!?! So not cool!!
      You need to look at the big picture and make an accounting of ALL that Janice and ACSOL (formerly CARSOL) have accomplished in California over the years. Then it will be plainly obvious what side she is on. C’mon.

    • Bill

      @Derek

      If you have a viable plan of dismantling the Registry then tell, no, SHOW us how it can be done.

      Janice is fighting in the trenches everyday to push the Registry back to non-existence. She said it herself that her goal is to make her occupation obsolete one day. Since 2011 she has mounted 100 lawsuits demolishing residency restrictions and got rid of $ex offender signs set on Registrants’ lawns in every city in California.

      When I was in prison I was not looking forward to my release because of these stifling restrictions. But when I got out they were gone.

      Janice knows the battlefield landscape of legislation and is veteran of courtroom wars. She knows what she’s doing.

      Your comments comes off as unrealistic, obtuse, and ungrateful for all the effort that has been done. We know there’s “no middle ground” in our views of the Registry.

      But we can only realistically push the line as far as the system and society can tolerate without it collapsing on us out of fear and hate. What I’m saying is it’s like in a real war where you fight for ground one inch at a time.

      So unless you have a viable plan to demolish the Registry and the means to do it, I suggest you back off and let the grown ups do the fighting…

      • Gini

        “If you have a viable plan of dismantling the Registry then tell, no, SHOW us how it can be done.”

        Bill, I would like to know what kind of proof you are asking for. I would also like to know if you have done anything other than sit in the stands and cheering for your favorite team. I know personally that Derek ( oncefallen.com ) has busted his a$$ (without pay) for people on the registry for many years. He has put his own time and much money into helping abolish money so they do not have to languish on the government black list or suffer public shaming. I personally am not on the registry but I have also fought many years now and spent a lot of my own money to abolish it. I sometimes question why I bother doing this when I hear people say a tiered registry is acceptable, a registry is a registry, if you and others like you think it is okay then I can’t help but wonder should I just give up and let these people enjoy their status?

        • Gini

          Oops! I meant to say,
          He has put his own time and much money into helping ABOLISH THE REGISTRY so they do not have to languish on the government black list or suffer public shaming.

      • Derek W. Logue of OnceFallen.com

        You are the one who needs to grow up, Bill.

        First, Janice is not the only one fighting in the trenches. I’ve been trying to show many folks how it is done but most of you don’t want to actually fight, that’s why you’d rather throw your money at attorneys so you can cower in corners and not have to stand up for yourselves.

        I have asked Janice point blank to her face back in Atlanta in a room full of fellow activists if she believes the registry should be abolished and I did not get a straight answer. That bothers me especially when she says thinks like a tiered registry is “effective” in protecting the public. But trying to get someone like you to see why that is a problem is a waste of time because are too busy swinging pom poms. I don’t have a problem with incrementalism DONE THE RIGHT WAY, and that’s not what I’m seeing here.

        I think is is laughable for anyone to accuse me of not looking at the big picture. I can guarantee I’ve been in this fight longer than any of you badmouthing me right now. I don’t hesitate to state the end game is for the registry to be abolished. But Janice has not done that and it bothers me immensely. That’s the big picture, but the ones accusing me of being shortsighted are only thinking of are thinking of they are trying to save, be it themselves or their loved one. I don’t think it okay to sacrifice anyone for a short term benefit that will easily be undone if you have another Chelsea King case.

        Listing the court cases are merely red herrings. My problem is with the language used to challenge the registry. Apparently, most of you here don’t find the idea of helping legislators find a way to create a useful registry to be appalling. It reminds me of Bridge over the River Kwai, where POW Lieutenant Colonel Nicholson insists on building the best bridge possible even if tit is advantageous to the enemy. At what point will you folks wake up one day and realize what was done for the sake of a few small victories?

        • Janice Bellucci

          @Derek – It is true, Derek, that you and I have different approaches to the same problem. My approach is to work incrementally, that is, to challenge in the courts laws that are not based upon facts, but instead are based upon emotions. I have been very successful using that approach and California is the first state in the nation that has no presence restrictions or Halloween sign requirements for registrants not on parole. We are also soon to be the first state in the nation that has no residency restrictions for people not considered high risk. I do not believe your approach, that is, to storm the Bastille by launching a frontal attack on the registry, would be successful. Having said this, I respect you and your approach and would appreciate your respect of me as well. And I repeat this message for your friend Gini who is also posting on this website.

        • Derek W. Logue of OnceFallen.com

          @Janice,

          There are already a nearly two dozen of states that do not have residency restrictions and only 5 states have Halloween sign requirements for ANY registrants much less those on parole. It is incorrect to say California will be the first state to have neither if they repeal their laws.

          Also, what about the so-called “high risk” registrants? It isn’t a matter of “respect” when I see you and many within your organization willing to promote a registry of any kind no matter the justification. Somewhere along the way, you’re expecting some registrants to act as sacrificial lambs. If I was in California, I’d be among those to be sacrificed. I’ve already experienced the added hardships put on someone erroneously labeled into the top tier.

          Sooner or later, your very words will actually make it harder to uproot the registry. But it seems way too many folks are too busy thinking of the short-term and/ or just for them or whatever loved one is on the registry.

      • Joe

        Mr. Logue may be lacking in social skills but he has a point. This tiered registry is fine and dandy unless YOU or YOUR loved one gets put in Tier 3. By default, this makes them even worse than today. The proverbial “worst of the worst” – though they have nothing done to deserve this bump in perception.

        We have been discussing at length here that this tiered bill is full of inconsistencies. It is my expectation that quite a few people will have a very rude awakening.

        I have been on this site for a long time. Incrementalism was always the name of the game. But it was always going to be fair and sensible incrementalism. This tiered registry is not it. It is my opinion that ACSOL should have categorically opposed it the second it was raised from the dead in its current form.

        Perhaps the past 8-9 years would have been better spent in an effort to dismantle the entire thing. Without chipping away at all these laws (presence, residency, Halloween, etc.). That would have meant a great sacrifice for all. But a lot could have happened in almost 10 years. This is monday-morning-quarterbacking in its finest form, of course.

        I understand, and I appreciate, that ACSOL is a formal organization that makes decisions via a Board of Directors. I would be interested to know how many Directors (or their family members) will be someone assigned to Tier 3.

        • totally against public registry

          Joe, I agree with everything you said… I believe that the tiered registry and chipping away slowly at laws just makes the other side get stronger- for every wrong that ACSOL tries to correct, the opposing side is ready and able with few more bills and laws to introduce and pass. I also don’t have a clue how to bring down the registry and appreciate anything that ACSOL/Janice does but I feel Tier 3 citizens will be sacrificial lambs and I don’t like that either

        • Roger H

          @Joe, I will be assigned to tier 3. We fight for ALL registrants, including we tier 3’s, as is shown by the issues we lobbied and continue to lobby for. Apparently people forget we lobbied for allowing us tier 3’s to apply to get off at 30 years, among many other issues.

          @Derek’s dramatic hyperbole of “sacrificial lambs” is an uninformed statement of someone who sees things as black and white and thinks there is a way to magically make the registry go away if we somehow get the courts to magically save us. The courts generally follow society’s attitudes, they don’t break new ground.

          @Derek apparently doesn’t understand that until we can change society’s attitude towards registrants, we will be playing whack-a-mole indefinitely as new laws pop up due to public hysteria driving bad bills created by politicians. Gays made great inroads in gaining civil rights not by hiding at home but my showing up, standing up, and speaking up. Gays changed society’s attitudes towards them when they came out of the closet to family and friends, who were less likely to support politicians who beat up on them. All people groups who gained civil rights did so by taking calculated risks in showing up, standing up, and speaking up to those around them and to society. THAT IS HOW TO CHANGE SOCIETY’S ATTITUDES! Succeeding in a Supreme Court case requires building a long-term pyramid of lower-court case history.

          @Derek apparently can’t understand the concept of short term goals of getting as many people off the registry while also working to get rid of it in the long term. As thousands get off and do NOT re-offend, it destroys the main argument for having registries in the first place, which is supposedly to keep us in line because otherwise we’d re-offend.

          @Joe, regarding the timeline of the resurrected bad tiered registry bill, it was all done behind closed doors and in a rush. There was no time for public discussion and no opportunity for objections. I guess ACSOL members should feel complemented when people think we have so much power that we unilaterally control what bills are created and passed, but that is not reality. We ACSOL members plant the seeds of ideas in the minds of legislators. We educate them with facts and appeal to their hearts with personal stories. We don’t control legislators, but our many-year effort to give people a chance to get off the registry succeeded! Most people on the registry will now be able to get off. That took a lot of hard work!

          The bottom line is that stopping and reversing a 73-year old registry freight train is very difficult. Just complaining won’t help anything. Using incrementalism for short-term relief combined with long-term strategic plans, and changing society’s attitudes towards us one at a time is a powerful combination.

          One last note: Those who complain ACSOL isn’t doing enough but refuse to donate SACRIFICIALLY to help us expand our work are whiners who should be ignored.

  8. Gini

    “These are the legislators who will lead the way toward a tiered registry that increases public safety and protects civil rights.” stated ACSOL Executive Director Janice Bellucci.

    A registry is a registry, how can ANY registry, tiered or otherwise, be acceptable? All registries are unconstitutional, how can someone throw others under the bus for their own benefit? A tiered registry does just that, either you approve of a registry or you don’t, choose your side. I hope that more people who claim to be activists for registered persons will choose to abolish the registry and care for their fellow man that is suffering from this cruel and unusual punishment and not try to compromise with the enemy.

    • Eric

      @ Gini…ideally we are moving towards abolishing the registry altogether, I believe that is our common aim; however, the fact remains that there is a small percentage of people who do sex offenses that are very bad and dangerous people and they give us all a bad reputation. I shiver every time I read of a convicted person re-offending, and it is assuredly plastered all over the headlines. I regret that I am caught up in this hysteria, but the fact remains that the public has a legitimate concern and the media and politicians will fan those flames at every opportunity. That being the case, thinking the public will support ending the registry at this time is not realistic. Even the supreme court will not stand by the constitution when there is great public and political pressure the other way, as we have seen. Our numbers are approaching one million, and we are gaining victories all over the country. I believe that the ACSOL approach of whittling away at the giant rock little by little is much wiser than a headlong assault that would assuredly fail at this present time. But as our political clout gains and we get more victories at the state and federal levels the consciousness of the public will, and is, turning. When the facts and stats are so strong in our favor that the truth can no longer be denied, then it will be time, but for now it must be one step at a time.

      • someone who cares

        Eric ~ I agree that some offenses are still horrendous, but I still don’t think that justifies keeping a registry for the public unless, there is a registry for other horrendous offenses, like murder or drug dealing, or multiple DUIS that put everybody in danger, but there isn’t. That is the thing I have a hang up about. Nobody will ever be safe, with or without a registry because we only know where the SOs live, not the rest of the “dangerous” people. Also, we don’t know who the future SO will be, or the future person who drives drunk, or the future murderer….you get it. All we can do, is punish those who commit crimes and focus on preventing crime as best we can.

        • Joe

          If a registry increases public safety AND it is constitutional – why is it not implemented for ALL criminals? No one has ever been able to explain that to me. Are our elected legislators not interested in overall public safety – especially given that it is so easy to achieve?

    • Gini

      I should have also stated that THE CONSTITUTION IS ABOUT CIVIL RIGHTS. Accepting a registry of any sort is accepting unconstitutional behavior. How can someone say or think a registry protects civils right if they are advocating for something that goes against the constitution? In my mind that seems to be somewhat of a bias attitude. Who are you actually fighting for in the end?

  9. G4Change

    I can’t be the only one who thinks that advocating for a tiered registry and wanting the registry to be gone are mutually exclusive, can I? If anyone knows of a way to get the California Legislature or a judge to pull the plug on the registry altogether, please, step up and get the process started! Nobody will stand in your way – least of all people who have worked so hard to get this tiered registry.
    The tiered registry with petitions for removal isn’t just a step in the right direction in CA, it’s a giant leap! Please, widen your lens and see the big picture. The goal is the same, it’s just that the route toward the goal may be different.
    Again, anyone who has a shorter and quicker route, please, come forth. Lobby some legislators. File a lawsuit. Heck, Michigan may just have an injunction slapped onto the entire registry (wishful thinking). File a lawsuit and get an injunction on CA’s registry. None of us will stop you!
    In the meantime, please stop questioning Janice and ACSOL. If it weren’t for all they have done over the years, I don’t know if I’d be able to get out of bed in the morning.

    • G4Change

      “I can’t be the only one who thinks that advocating for a tiered registry and wanting the registry to be gone are mutually exclusive, can I?”

      I meant to say:

      I can’t be the only one who thinks that advocating for a tiered registry and wanting the registry to be gone are NOT mutually exclusive, can I?”

    • Derek W. Logue of OnceFallen.com

      All I hear from you is–

      “I want someone else to do the work for me.”

      Oh, but this sentence stands out —

      “Nobody will stand in your way – least of all people who have worked so hard to get this TIERED REGISTRY.”

      I’m sure the victim industry thanks those who helped advocate to keep the registry alive.

    • Eric

      G4change…Well said!!

  10. Realism

    There has not been a single state government that has considered abolishing the registry since its introduction.
    Each year in each state an avg of three bills are introduced to either expand the registry or make it retractively harsher.
    The proximity housing allowances will likely help about 15% of registrants, and are given up by city governments without much fight. This is good, but simply crumbs of bread to a starving person.
    The registry #s are growing daily, and will continue to. It will reach a critical mass, but likely not in our lifetimes.
    What we post here is akin to a pressure valve for most of us. A way to feel connected And feel part of something. Some come to bitch, others to give a big ACSOL hug. All of us are suffering, and will be so for our lifetimes, wether on or off the registry. It has done irreparable damage to all of us.
    I come here when I am at my lowest, which is more often these days. I rarely comment, but when I do it varies from hope to dispair. I mostly use the board as a distraction. Looking for that moment of light in my otherwise lonely dark world.
    Reading comments that criticize others only makes me feel worse, so let’s minimize it please.

    • R M

      Which deserted mountain top do you abide on Realism? I want to visit.

    • Bill

      @Gini

      I want the Registry to end. I KNOW the Registry is wrong. Am I not clear enough?

      But getting there requires many steps. Read Roger H’s comments. He makes some valid points on what it takes to get there.

      As for what I have done since I got out a year and a half and discovered this group quite recently: I donated money, attended meetings, I wrote to legislators in Sacramento.

      I have plans to produce awareness videos to put on YouTube to spread the word about the inherent wrongness of the Registry. But I need to save money to get the equipment and software. All this while working on minimal wage which is all I can get at the moment.

      Oh and all this while knowing my past CP offense would put me at Tier 3 by next year. But do you see me crying? No! I soldier on.

      There’s no overnight fix to this. I’m in it for the long haul for as long it can be.

  11. Bill

    @Derek

    I came to this site less than a year ago after I was released to find information to help better my situation. This is so far what I have encountered that has done the best work in pushing the Registry back. Now mind you, if there was a better way to end this sooner, that’s where I would be.

    I asked you point blank to show us what this great plan is to take down the Registry. If it’s viable I’m all over it.

    But all we got from you is squat, zilch, nada. Oh and whole lot of bragging about how long you have been doing whatever it is you said you did. That and putting down others that don’t subscribe to this great plan that no one here has heard of.

    If this great plan of yours had any traction it would’ve happened, we would know about, and we would’ve been there.

  12. Joe

    Did JB just say this? In writing? Whatever happened to “Justice for ALL?”

    ““These are the legislators who will lead the way toward a tiered registry that increases public safety and protects civil rights.””

    With all due respect and the greatest appreciation….. WOW! Mind. Blown.

  13. Bill

    @Derek

    I’m only “mad” that after reading through your screed that you STILL haven’t outline how to take on the Registry.

    I can appreciate a critique if you offer a stratagem that can be more effective then the one Janice has been doing.

    And so what is it? Tell me.

    It doesn’t matter if I “don’t lie my synopsis” Derek. I only care what works.

    And spell check.

  14. USA

    Derek W Logue:

    If your unhappy, why don’t you do anything? Why are you here? The registry isn’t going to disappear. It’s going to take time. Donate? Volunteer? Put your money where your mouth is?
    I have 3 questions regarding your lobbying efforts. Will SB 384 respect PC 17B? Will SB 384 respect PC 1203.4? In summary, how will the new tiered law few 17B offenses and expunged offenses?
    Furthermore, will there be certain parameters set for LE? When I filed my COR in OC, investigators questioned all my neighbors? They looked for anything and I found them to be rather dishonest (expunged misdemeanor battery/summary probation). When the judge reviewerd my case, he stated he could find no reason to deny my motion, but it wasn’t enough? Motion denied! I believe OC is changing with the new DA

    • Curiouser

      Dude. You’re in over your skiis arguing with Derek. Stay in your lane.

    • someone who cares

      USA ~ I think asked this before, but is it the norm that LE is questioning neighbors when applying for a COR? That can not be legal! Some are not on the public site and even those who are, the neighbors may not know. When it comes to “illegal” compliance checks, LE is not allowed to go beyond knocking on the person’s door, and leaving when nobody answers. Many will be reluctant to “petition” the court for removal when the Tiered Registry goes into effect if it will be handled in the same illegal manner. That is another reason why the removal should be automatic after the required time has elapsed. Nobody should have to petition!!

  15. MLinCA

    I’ve read most of the comments and I haven’t read anything about the Exclusion Clause.
    At the last meeting in LA, Janice said that about 20% of registrants are excluded from the website and I’m in that group. Was I always excluded, no. Was I harassed at work, asked to vacate my apartment and had my vehicle damaged while on the registry? Yes.
    Has my life been easier since I was excluded? Yes. But I fought for that exclusion clause as hard as some of the people are fighting for the tiered registry to be implemented now.
    I asked Janice directly in a email if her and her group would be fighting to keep it. In her response to me she didn’t answer that question.
    So am I to assume that the people who are excluded now would be thrown under the bus just to help the tier 1 or tier 2 people get off of it?
    I belonged to a number of unions and during contract negotiations you never gave up something you gained 10 years ago to get something you want now.

    • norman

      as someone who was thrown under the bus (moved from tier 1 to tier 3) I would think so

      • Roger H

        @MLinCA and @norman, being a tier 3 myself, I have experienced losing employment and experienced housing prejudice. I totally get that you wouldn’t want to experience it again.

        I get it that you are pissed off that CP offenses and other former tier 1 and 2 offenses are being pushed to tier 3. ACSOL is too!

        I get it that you want to lash out at the injustice, and ACSOL is far more accessible to blame than politicians, so we don’t take it personally that you vent on us.

        BUT pause a minute and think about it: are you are seriously saying that ACSOL made the tiered registry the way it is and “threw you under the bus”?

        Are you seriously implying that ACSOL has a mountain of political power, an army of lawyers, and can pull the strings of any politicians it wishes, and was able to write the REVISED tiered registry bill with the evil plan to put you on the public website?

        You would be absolutely incorrect.

        Look back at what happened to create the bad version of the registry during that insane period of JUST A FEW DAYS back 3 years ago. ACSOL supported Sen. Scott Wiener’s registry bill because it didn’t have all the unjust crap that this registry has. But his bill was KILLED by a certain female politician out of spite towards us. Amazing, Gov. Brown forced her to resurrect it, but the police told her to add the unjust crap (which she was glad to do!) such as pushing many from lower tiers to tier 3.

        To repeat, this happened within a period of just a FEW DAYS in CLOSED SESSIONS with NO PUBLIC INPUT. ACSOL had no chance to fight this or organize opposition.

        So is there anything good that came out of that secret political battle that created a warped registry?

        YES! At least there IS a registry that 80% of registrants will have an opportunity to get off someday, as compared to the LIFETIME REGISTRATION FOR ALL that we have until 2021 when it takes effect.

        YES! We still have a year and a half to fight to fix it! We planted the seeds for change by educating many legislative staffs. We will continue to seek legislators who will sponsor bills that put CP and others back in lower levels.

        So make the calls and write the letters for the issues we are fighting for. Sign up the the action alerts and join us. The next two years are important.

        • TP @ Roger

          I just read the original law from Weiner. If I did so correctly it would have been awesome. Cant we use it as a basis to lobby from than just the small adjustments we are currently asking?

        • MLinCA

          @Roger H
          I get it that you are pissed off that CP offenses and other former tier 1 and 2 offenses are being pushed to tier 3. ACSOL is too!

          I get it that you want to lash out at the injustice, and ACSOL is far more accessible to blame than politicians, so we don’t take it personally that you vent on us.

          First off Roger, that wasn’t written in anger nor am I lashing out at ACSOL.
          I was asking if ASCOL would be advocating keeping the exclusion like they are advocating for the other items. It’s a simple yes or no question.
          I know how to lash out at politicians, I don’t need to vent here.
          Before writing a wall of text in anger, maybe try to get a better understanding of what someone is trying to say.

    • Janice Bellucci

      @MLinCA – You are correct. We didn’t include the “exclusion clause” in our point paper this year. The reason is that the clause goes into effect later than the other provisions. Specifically, no one will be added to the Megan’s Law website until 2022 while the petitioning process begins in 2021. Having said that, we will address the exclusion clause in next year’s lobbying efforts. I hope everyone understands that it’s unwise to disclose all of our lobbying strategies on this website or in other public venues. I am happy to report that we plan to have a HUGE lobbying effort next year including visits to all 120 legislative offices. It may require two days, but it will be a worthwhile effort as we will have newly elected legislators and some legislators who have harmed us in the past will no longer be there.

    • JonCarson

      I had written Janice last year about the exclusion and she had replied that they would would lobby to restore that exclusion at some point.
      I do not know if Janice has since then decided to not pursue addressing the exclusion clause in the new tiered registry.
      Of course those being moved from Tier 1 to Tier 3 have a lot to be concerned about, but that shouldn’t diminish the fears of those who are in danger of losing their exclusion. That is a VERY big deal as well.
      Apparently the removal of exclusion will start at the beginning of 2022. Hopefully Janice hasn’t forgotten about those who may lose their exclusion from the site.

      • DLS

        Are all of the website exclusions being removed?

        • Mr. D

          @DLS – I don’t believe so, if I’m reading the new bill correctly it appears that if the victim was a relative and you are their parent, step-parent, etc. that you will maintain your exclusion. But I would gladly appreciate additional input.

        • SR

          I believe the primary exclusion issue is for 647.6. Previously, all misdemeanors of 647.6 were excluded (as they are now). The change was to remove the exclusion despite it otherwise remaining tier 1 (T1’s are not subject to public disclosure).

  16. kind of living

    It makes me feel good that at least some strait out show their “hate” for the registry , but brings me down to see the same children of the corn people so ready to throw 3’s under the bus through the (Rear system) not one word about 14A 10A 4A 5A and a gaggle of other amendments the registry stomps all over. Seems the constitution holds no water for us . so we get called sniveler’s , basement cowards , you know I don’t have to point out all of the trash we have to wear in this community “at times” , and that always happens when we speak our mind, you know people wishing we would lose our 1A as well . while I am thankful for what Janice has done and all the hard work , Janice is a awesome person as well as the ones she works closely with , that being said I don’t always agree with her , but Janice is not my issue . My issue is with the children of the corn that act like it don’t stink up on that so called high road they have assigned themselves , well that’s funny the rest of us smell it ! lol anyway I just really wanted to say thanks to some of the people I call brother/sister , Derek , Gina , Joe , Totally against public registry , just to name a few ,I enjoy reading all your comments as well as a few others . Don’t Ever Give Up ! much love and respect

  17. K

    I’m glad to hear such positivity, but I haven’t heard an explanation as to why everyone is so empowered by that day. Can anyone explain? Were any of the legislators seeming to be on our side? Did they seem to agree with the arguments set forth? Was there any one legislator that seems more promising to get something done?

    • NPS

      Agree completely. I’ve been waiting to read about specifically what happened during their lobby efforts. All I’m reading is pats on the back for having a successful day. What made it successful? What were the legislators’ responses to the lobbying? What progress was made?

    • kind of living

      @K @NPS , agreed I would like to know if any changes to the battlefield has changed as a result of this pow wow in any meaningful way? I mean it is cool and all that you had the ear of legislators and all but wow I have yet to see them see the huge mistake of the very unconstitutional registry as a whole , how many of our loving friends from the police unions were there if any ?

    • Janice Bellucci

      @K and others – The results of lobbying are not immediate. In fact, it often takes several years to see results. For example, we lobbied for 6 1/2 years before we got a Tiered Registry Law and due to a political compromise that we weren’t part of, the Tiered Registry Law does not do everything we want it to do. That means we must continue to lobby until we get what we want. Reminds me of gardening which takes many steps over many months before I can harvest home grown tomatoes. First, I must prepare the soil, then plant seeds, water the plants, remove weeds, etc. Please be patient and know that we are working as hard as we can with the resources we have available. Thank you.

    • kind of living

      Agreed I would love to hear what this pow wow has done for (ALL RC’s) , in the mean time I will not be riding any bus’s . I remember all that talk about how LE was on board when putting the stupid bill together lol what could go wrong? Right ? sorry need to hear more before I start cheering for this very unconstitutional registry that continues to wreck my famliys life 35 years later , and no body should have to beg the state when its time for anyone to get off , but hey we should not even have a registry ,

      • James I

        These lobbying efforts are important in that they put a human face on our suffering and the disabilities we labor under. We are not some abstract “Bad Person,” lurking out there…these legislators now know this for a fact in that we were just in their office talking to them and their staff.

        This is important stuff….but I sense the registry is never going to go away….and so these small victories as many people see them…are huge in allowing us to live out lives. Ask anyone in Miami if their presence restrictions don’t mean anything.

        Janice won that for us and so I don’t have to move from my house…I give Janice eternal respect and gratitude for this. Personally even though I have a complete 1204.3….I don’t know where I’ll end up under the tiered system.

        It could be worse, but even if so, I’ll be happy for my brothers and sisters freed from suffering this oppression.

        The authorities need to contemplate what they are going to do with all of as we eventually sink into the vastness of old age and become gibbering fools…there are a lot of us getting older and it is going to be expensive and difficult for society to keep us all somewhere…this will get very interesting.

        Since I don’t see it getting much better for me…I braved Christmas snows of Utah, I’m just back from Kauai and scored for May $400.00 round trip tickets to Rome, and so south to Sicily, somewhere I’ve never been.

        Some of what we go through is self imposed…restrictions on ourselves. Gotta break free of this bad thinking…

        But I know and rest assured that Janice and team is out there doing good thinking for all of us.

        Best Wishes, James I

        • alienated

          James,

          I attended Lobby Day and had the pleasure to work with Janice and although I might end up on Tier 3 which scares me to death, I still have faith that Janice and Her team can help.

          I agree with you if it were not for Janice many of our lives would be horribly different. I would not be able to even take my self and dogs for a walk in the park.

          It is easy to look at the negative and worry about what ifs but rest assured this tiered registry will help a lot of people just not all of us.

          Travel where you can and live a full life and enjoy the smaller things like Going to the beach or the mountains, dinner with a friend. You get out of life what You make.

          I for One Have Great respect and admiration for Janice and all the others that are trying to make a fair Tiered System.

          Thank you so much Janice and I look forward to Seeing you again Soon!!!

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