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Here is a link to the A2TwoZee domestic travel blog
Here is a link to domestic travel information for PFR/
I thought a vague law that LE can discretionarily apply was unconstitutional.
“Unfortunately, under existing law it has not been determined whether a person on vacation or visiting is actually “residing” in a temporary location while in our state. As a result, it is at the discretion of law enforcement to decide when a person vacationing or visiting on a temporary basis must register in their jurisdiction.” – Office of the Attorney General, California Department of Justice
Dear friends, I hope you won’t mind if I make a few comments about the travel discussion which took place on the June 15 ACSOL monthly zoom call.
First of all, I agree totally with all of the main points which Janice always makes about domestic travel: (1) Always know the number of days you’re allowed to be in any state and never stay there more than that number of days. (2) In some states you can leave, stay away for one day, then return and restart the time clock. Some states you can’t. Always know what the rules are in the state(s) you’re going to. (3) Never try to fly under the radar. Report your travel before you leave and keep your updated registry sheet on you when you travel.
However, every month Janice also uses certain states as examples for her main points, and that’s where she often makes errors. For example, on June 15 she offered her favorite two states as short and long time period states: Rhode Island (24 hours) and Hawaii (10 consecutive days or 30 total per calendar year). It so happens I have a brother in RI so I go there often and I always follow Janice’s advise that it’s a tiny state so just stay at a motel just over the state line. However, it turns out RI is one of 4 states (RI, NV, AK & SD that maintain separate “Visitors Registries” that allow you to stay for longer periods with being put on their regular registry. For more info about this go to my travel blog site – (the link is above, in this post, above the comments) and type in “Nevada” in the search box to find a blog entry “Nevada: An Open Letter” for more information about Visitor’s Registries.
Concerning Hawaii, 10 days consecutive is pretty good, and Hawaii isn’t the only state that has this rule (MT, NJ, NM, TX, UT, VT, WA, WI) but it’s not nearly the longest. Several states do 14 days (NC, NY, MN, MD, ME, KY, GA, CO, DE, Samoa) and some have either 30 days specified in law (VA, USVI) or have no period specified in law but by policy use 30 days (OR, PA, PR).
On the June 15 zoom call someone commented about Oregon and another person verified that OR is 30 days. I just want you all, including Janice, to know there are others.
Lastly, on June 15 Janice did mention something very important about moving to another state if you are fortunate enough to have been removed from the registry in your state of conviction. She said that MOST state registry laws say, paraphrasing, that if you were EVER CONVICTED of a registrable offense in some other state and you then move here, you have to register with us when you move here. Notice it doesn’t say anything about whether you’re still on the registry in your state of conviction – only whether you were ever convicted. So if you are ever fortunate enough to get yourself off of California’s or any other state’s registry, just remember – stay put! Do not move out of state.
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does anyone have experience traveling to US Virgin Islands? I see , one must notify of arrival, & I believe one doesn’t have to register. I would appreciate knowing your experiences.
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Hi Everyone,
Yesterday (July 31), I was discharged off parole after 5 years, 4months, and 1 day wearing an ankle GPS monitor. I was a CDCR life term parolee with a PC 187 conviction (2nd degree) and previous PC 290 misdemeanor 647.6 conviction. I am being invited to the University of Chicago, for a Military & Veteran Affairs (all expense paid trip) to be a guest speaker on resilience and rehabilitation. I am flying out on Wednesday night (August 7) and staying in Chicago until Sunday evening (August 11). Would anyone be able to assist me in informing me of the rules of registering in Chicago? I asked DAPO and was told to research it myself. Thank you.
I had previously asked about the federal SORNA definition of a day in regards to reporting being away from home 7 days or more (if not residing in CA and if crossing a state line or stepping foot on a reservation in the state one resides).
After reading multiple definitions of day, calendar day, lunar day etc…I have come to the conclusion a day is the time between the sun rising and setting with no darkness in between as opposed to night which is the period of darkness. A calendar day, a lunar day, etc… are different than a “day”. Federal Sorna use the word “day”.
To avoid having to report being away from home 7 days or more I have concluded I need to be home before dark on calendar day 7 as that will be 6 full days plus a fraction of a day. Once it is dark on calendar day 7, then I am gone 7 full days. I just like to know and understand the rules as I like to follow the rules but not have to report.
Question about federal SORNA in regards to reporting operation of “any” vehicle. At the moment, federal SORNA only applies to me if I cross state line or set foot on a reservation. I do not reside in CA. If I cross state line and rent a car in another state, I am trying to determine whether federal SORNA requires me to report to my registering LE person.
I learned in grade school mathematics and English class “all” means each and every single item in a set and “any” means one, all or some number in between one and all of a set, meaning “any” can be any item I choose fro a set of data.
So if federal SORNA says to report operation of “any” vehicle, based upon what I learned in school that means I can report the vehicles I own (which I already do to LE as that is required in the state I register) and not necessarily have to report a vehicle I rent for a day or two in a state other than where I register because I can choose “any” vehicle to report as defined above.
I read text and take it to mean exactly what it says. My philosophy is if the author wants the statute to mean something else, it would draft the text in the way it intends. Am I misreading or misunderstanding the text in the federal SORNA?
My top 5 states to visit as a PFR
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Hello everyone,
My father-in-law has terminal cancer and my extended family is trying to plan an Alaskan cruise (5-7 days). Does anyone have experience with trying to go on a cruise as a registrant? Is that possible? (I reside in CA, completed probation years ago and no parole.) Would I have trouble crossing the border into Canada to leave from Vancouver? All possible port stops would be in Alaska.
Thank you so much for any guidance and help.
I thought states could not adopt state laws that prohibit the free flow of goods and commerce (including people) between states.
There are multiple states that have a adopted state laws that prohibit registered people from traveling into certain parts of the state without violating a criminal statute. States with presence restrictions top this list.
One example that comes to mind is IL with its presence and loitering restrictions from the external property boundaries of a long list of “child safety zones”. Chicago O’Hare Airport has an indoor play area for children. And Chicago Midway Airport has a park adjacent to the external property boundary of the airport. In both instances, if I fly into Chicago, I am violating a criminal statute with attached criminal penalties.
Another example that comes to mind has to also do with IL and visiting Chicago. If I take Amtrak into Chicago from any direction, I come within 500 feet of a park as there are more than one park within 500 feet of the Amtrak line. And again, taking Amtrak into Chicago means I am violating a criminal statute with attached criminal penalties.