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Just when you thought the absurdity has reached its peak here is a report from our puritan brethren across the pond…

Blackburn primary school teacher on ‘feet sniffing’ sex charges
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-lancashire-26881157

HI Joe:

It doesn’t say why he sniffed their feet, but I see nothing sexual about it.

Wow.. I had an interesting day at Hermosa Beach today… I was dropping off my sister there for something that lasted about an hour. I parked my car at the one of those public parking lots, paid for the spot and just sat near by enjoying the nice weather. No where near a park or a beach. The Hermosa Community Service Enforcer came by with those tag readers, just slowly coasting by the cars.. It coasted by mine and it stopped and reversed until it was directly behind my car.. I remember I heard those tag readers show information if… Read more »

I become so incensed when I read stories like these. I become even angrier at the absolute hypocrisy of our society, the police, politicians and government as a whole.

Take a look at how the cops raise money for their fallen brother’s families (yea right).

These cops paid $100 each to watch a bikini clad girl get tased.

If they will do this on camera, imagine what they’ll do when no one is looking.

The vast majority of those individuals who have a desire to become part of system to controls the population have a vast number of reasons for doing so. If you do research you will find that most suffer from a delusional desire to “save the world” or a savior complex. So have a perverse need to control others while some enjoy manipulating others to feel powerful. The same issue that many who join the military have. You would be shocked at the disproportionate number of repressed homosexuals who have joined for a number of reasons including uniform fetishes, authority fetishes,… Read more »

welcome to the future. Having your presence interrogated everywhere by the thought police.

“because you’re vehicle matches a stolen car report” at that point I would have called BS and said let’s not beat around the bush you know I have a felony because my license plate was scanned. is lying there way to get around what could be construed as harassing? This happened to me once got pulled over with my kids in the car and the cop said my registration was expired. I knew it wasn’t. Then the cap started asking my kids questions. Do they have the right to do that? Can I say, since they are minors, you cannot… Read more »

Yeah its the a “Thin” line cops walk on when dealing with us.. but community safety and I bet residence checks basically cleared the way for the police to harass us like we are second class citizens…

Well, I do think this was because the license plate came up as a registrant. However, they used the perfect cover, saying the car matched the description of one reported stolen. They checked the ID and matched the license plate to the car VIN, confirming the license plate had not been switched, and so this was not the car reported stolen. And they let him go. If there weren’t so much harassment of registrants at every turn, we could write this off as a legitimate stop. But its hard to do that in the larger context of constant harassment of… Read more »

http://news.msn.com/us/congressman-apologizes-after-compromising-video-posted

Geeze, all Congressmen have to do is ask for forgiveness and all is ok. They’re no longer held to a higher standard. It could be construed as sexual harassment in the workplace.

When you are “law maker” it is very easy to get away with being a “law breaker”.

@ mch, you asked me to keep you informed on my case and I have good news. The appellate court unanimously ruled in my favor to uphold my expungement. I’m not in the clear yet as the DA can still appeal that decision but now two appellate courts have ruled that an attempted 288 is not “any violation of 288”. My biggest fear now is if my case gains notoriety that I would essentially be outted and that would make the expungement useless. I am even scared sharing this information but I want to help as many people as I… Read more »

Are you talking of an expungement, or are you talking of your conviction being overturned upon your challenge? It sounds like the latter. Mind you, in either case, the record remains, so you could be “outed” either way — although in the latter, if you could also show that you are factually innocent, you could have the record destroyed. With the record remaining, it would be available on the public court record (and so all the companies that sweep up all those records would have it to sell). I gather what happened is that you challenged, arguing that that statute… Read more »

@ One Day;
That’s awesome news! Would you be willing to share case numbers through Janice so I can begin my research and process since our charges are twins? Congratulations on this step, and good preparation for the next step.

@ mch, of course! It would be awesome if this site let me contact you anonymously but I will get the info to her.

I sent a message to the general inquiry of this site with the case info. Hopefully they will get it to you.

One Day; Since the appellate ruling is “not any violation of 288”, then stands to reason that a felony reduction is in order, or should be. With that ruling you have a few options. If reduced, then you can petition for removal from the internet and it should be a slam dunk, but then I know how prosecutors are or how persecutors are. Successful challenges like yours and others make many of the registered citizens like sand in the prosecutions hands. The harder they squeeze, the more sand falls through their fingers. Things like this are slowly exposing the weaknesses… Read more »

I got mine lower to misdemeanor but not totally off the list. Just the name and pic

mch: so is if you have a 288(a) are you ineligible to petition for PC 1203.4?

Yes, a “violation” of 288 makes one ineligible to apply for a dismissal under PC 1203.4 (amongst a few other sections). If I understand correctly “One Day” prevailed in his contention that an “attempt” is NOT a “violation” and thusly he is not disqualified from seeking relief under PC 1203.4. http://law.onecle.com/california/penal/1203.4.html However, a dismissal under 1203.4 is completely separate from the requirement to register under PC 290 – which specifically states “a violation … or an attempt“. http://law.onecle.com/california/penal/290.html I believe numerous people here have received a dismissal under 1203.4 and go on registering just the same. That is the absurdity… Read more »

1203.4 PC used to be the standard to be able to stop registering. That ended for felonies in the mid-1980s, and for misdemeanants in the mid-1990s. And the statue that required those getting 1203.4 relief to register anyway subsequently was merged into 290. (I note, while it was a separate statute from 290, there could have been an argument that the mid-1980s and mid-1990s changes could not be applied retroactively, as only 290 was ruled able to be applied retroactively. Now that that statute has been merged into 290, that argument would be more difficult — although it could still… Read more »

I correct a typo — I misstated:

“So, despite the language in 1203.4 speaking about dismissal, its not really dismissed. The courts say 1203.4 simply relieves you of some of the disabilities of the dismissal, not the conviction itself.”

I should have said:

“So, despite the language in 1203.4 speaking about dismissal, its not really dismissed. The courts say 1203.4 simply relieves you of some of the disabilities of the conviction, not the conviction itself.”

Could you explain how the “attempted” part can result in a felony reduction? To a misdemeanor? Is 288 a wobbler? How would this get one off the internet? Thanks in advance.

Well I know that my lawyer researched the wobbler angle but unfortunately it was not. I did petition for removal last year after the trial court granted the expungement but the state said internet stings are not eligible for removal even with an expungement. It’s funny because the cop who did my registration last year said I could get off of it with the expungement. I think I should check with my lawyer again to make sure.

I to wasthe vitim of an internet sting. It seems that people with no victims are punished more them some others. WTF?????

Let me ask, did you get 1203.4 after you completed probation, or did you seek to have probation needed early and get it then? I ask — but I realize the better answer is a longshot. You see, if the latter, if you got probation ended early, the judge is supposed to make a finding of good conduct deserving of early end (and I would think even if he did not specifically write it on the record, since he cannot end probation early without that finding, then it should be implicit the finding is included). And that finding could be… Read more »

664.288(a) is an attempt; classified as felony, but isn’t supposed to carry the same weight as a 288(a), but it does in the eyes of the persecutors.

@ Guest; I was told by an attorney that a 288(a) is NOT a wobbler and is a straight felony, however, I’ve had no attorney explain whether an attempt (664) COULD be a wobbler, they either don’t know, don’t care or won’t look into it. If a person is fortunate enough to get a felony reduction, then it seems that they could file with the DOJ for removal from internet disclosure, which, at best, is a longshot. I’m not very legally adept, and there are many more on here who are far smarter than I am about these things. Time… Read more »

PC 288(a) is NOT a wobbler. There is no distinction between attempt or actual violation. PC 290.46 regulates the internet disclosure. It also does not distinguish between attempts and actual violations, explicitly so. PC 290.46 (b) (1) On or before July 1, 2005, with respect to a person who has been convicted of the commission or the attempted commission of any of the offenses listed in, or who is described in, paragraph (2), … PC 290.46 (b) (2)(H) Subdivision (a), (b), or (c) of Section 288, provided that the offense is a felony. The qualifier “provided that the offense is… Read more »

Are there any internet exclusions for those cases that were hands off and no victims?

Its that time if you never have done so… Opt out time on paid “open databases” http://lifehacker.com/5138427/five-best-people-search-engines

I do it at least every 3rd month… typing my name and city… scroll through the list and find the age that matches mine and contact them to suspend or opt out from their site..

oh I don’t recommend going on google and looking yourself up.. my theory is if it shows a search it sparks interest in your name and start it up on the search listings.. only reason I develop this theory is I searched once 10 years ago and it was mine was on the first page… now years later I try looking myself on google… and I was on the 200th page.. I’m not a web expert so I can be totally wrong…

Black Man with snake Owns Cop with blacks law quotes & Court Procedure a must watch if You want to know how to win STUDY LAW!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1oJhTpFXhQ

I have to go get a copy somewhere! I wish the audio was better so everything he said could be heard but what IS relevant is the cop WAS stumped & Had no Idea what to do or how to respond,,,,The Idea is this Folks,, They Gave us a label,,Defend Your selves with the Law Against Tyranny We Just have to Learn it like religion…Not Impossible but difficult,,,Like being Saved;-)

About a week ago ‘CONSTITUTION’ won the florida derby….that horse is the only CONSTITUTION they want winning in that state.

Okay, you knew the question would come up. Which is worse to live next to? I am guessing the answer is obvious. Watch it unfold live and in color!

My neighbor is a sex offender and murderer
http://community.babycenter.com/post/a49060192/my_neighbor_is_a_sex_offender_and_murderer

I was running some numbers tonight from CASOMB Sex Offender Tracking Program. In 1947-49 there were only 119 new sex offenders in the 2000’s (a decade) 34,104 new sex offenders were added to the registry. In 60 years the California Sex Offender Registry has grown from 119 to 98,219 people, an average growth of 1,637 per year, 136 per month or 4.5 per day. In 1970’s 3,290 new offenders were added, but skyrocketed in the 1980’s to 15,349 or a 367% increase of new registrants, and its been growing steadily ever since 1946. I’m curious why the growth spurt in… Read more »

The spike in 290 registrations in California coincides with a dramatic in incarcerations US wide in the 1980s. General getting tough on crime? The war on drugs and Nancy Reagan “Just say no”?

The beginning of civilization as we know it? We shall see.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:U.S._incarceration_rates_1925_onwards.png
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_incarceration_rate#Growth

You are mixing up new registrants and total registrations. Don’t forget, until the mid-1980s, people could stop registering at the end of probation once they got 1203.4. That was the standard to stop. So, the overall numbers each year of new ones would have the old ones dropping off subtracted in order to come to total registrations. That would make the increase, the number of new registrants, seem a lot lower than it was. Also, I find it impossible to believe the only 100,000 people are required to register in California now. Again, all those people back to 1944 who… Read more »

@ One Day and Moderator;

Contact information sent via contact link. Thanks so much, I’m anxious to read and study the information.

Another idea for legal attack, this regarding whether 290 is punishment, an argument that has never been presented, and I think shows how the state high court ruling that said 290 is no punishment at all was wrongly decided.: If 290 is legally justified on the basis that (former) sex offenders remain a danger going forward, that is that they are not rehabilitated, and if it is not just punishment that comes due to the conviction and remains regardless of rehabilitation, then the standard established to be able to stop registering MUST match that, or the justification for 290, its… Read more »

Unfortunately your argument contains two basic flaws…those being that it is uses logic and reason AND that is totally true. None of which is ever considered with sex offender issues…and why?

Because the only thing that they ever actually hear when they read something like that is this:

“Blah blah blah…CHILDREN…blah blah blah…protect…blah blah blah…CHILDREN…blah blah blah blah…protect…blah blah blah…CHILDREN…blah blah blah…protect…blah blah blah…CHILDREN…blah blah blah…protect…blah blah blah…CHILDREN…blah blah blah…protect…blah blah blah…CHILDREN…blah blah blah…protect…blah blah blah…CHILDREN…blah blah blah…protect…blah blah blah…CHILDREN…blah blah blah…protect…blah blah blah…CHILDREN…blah blah blah…protect…blah blah blah…CHILDREN…blah blah blah…protect…blah blah blah…CHILDREN…blah blah blah…protect…blah blah blah…CHILDREN…blah blah blah…protect…blah blah blah…CHILDREN”

Our “civilisation” seems to be evolving into something more resembling a bee hive or an ant nest. People hear certain emotionally charged key words and react on instinct and reason goes by the wayside. Children in danger. Repel the intruders by any means.

Tired of Hiding, surely you must have read some of my other comments in the past — and must have appreciated them. I like it. 🙂 Thank you for reminding me — you have me laughing. 🙂

And clearly I agree with you — for look at my last paragraph.

How can this be? probation; registration every 30 days, gps, public website info and photos?
Sounds like we need a new sex offender law.
No registrant shall be allowed within 2500 feet of a known prostitution area.

Seriously, this could very well be the result of brutalizing people who need help, employment and stability instead of being placed on the dark side of life.
Still, no matter how difficult their lives may have become I can’t comprehend what they are alleged to have done to these women who were having their own problems in life.

From Yahoo Answers: I just realized I share a name with a local sex offender. What do I do? There is a local sex offender who has the same name that I do. If you type my name and state into google, his RSO profile is one of the first results that pops up. I remember reading some story a few years ago about some guy in Jacksonville, Florida who got killed because he shared a name with a local sex offender, and now I wonder if I could get mistaken for the sex offender and become a victim of… Read more »

Proof…further proof of fact on that registry is a sham whitewash …..it does nothing and did nothing for those people…..proof the registry is a massive waste of taxpayers money .

Yeah, young women turning up dead or missing was barely a story until the introduction of the 290s…. why, one wonders?

Yeah, I had been out of the loop the last few days, then saw this on the news last night…completely blown away. What I’m wondering is this…since prostitution is considered a “sex crime,” are they going to consider this sex offenders killing sex offenders? My only though there is are they going to make some law saying we not only can’t live within 2000ft of schools, etc, but can’t live within 2000ft of other registrants! Wait, I shouldn’t put any thoughts in their heads, they would try it!

Don’t forget, they are alleging four murders, yet they only really know of one as all they know of the other three are missing prostitutes who had a history of moving around to different places. The only body they know of was found at a trash facility in an industrial area — you know, the only location in Anaheim where sex offenders are allowed to live, although homeless, so of course it was near where these guys were with their GPS devices. They haven’t said a lot yet, but so far all they have indicated is that these guys’ GPS… Read more »

Does any one here have permission to attend their children’s school events. I’m wondering about how hard it will be to attend my son’s Graduation?
Any input will be greatly appreciated.
Thank You

I wouldn’t worry about it for a minute. Just go.

I believe that to be bad advice. Gee, you don’t even know if he has to wear an ankle monitoring device. Nonetheless, if someone knows he is a registrant, and they see him there, you better expect a complaint, and that could mean he goes to jail. Follow the rules, or you might not only miss a school event, you might miss many a dinner at home with your children. Either contact the principal, explain some and sound very reasonable and willing to work with them, and follow any rules they set. Hey,if you have seen a shrink, ask them… Read more »

I do. My kids are in Catholic schools. I had to have meetings with the archdiocese but was given permission to attend school events with some rules. I have very supporting principals and have a great relationship with the school and parents. Some are idiots but the majority of very good to my family. We have never had any ostracizing all my kids have very close friends in fact some of my daughters friends saw my picture went to their parents and the parents talked to their kids and there was never an issue . Don’t be afraid to do… Read more »

Hi Jeff, I feel your pain, buddy. I have a daughter in Kindergarten and every time there is some school event I have to disappoint her. It breaks her heart and mine – the feeling is like getting punched in the gut. As the end of the semester looms I dread her telling me excitedly about the Father/Daughter Dance, Father’s Day Tea, etc. I have thought of getting permission, but fear that just asking could start an S storm when the principal tells my girl’s teacher who tells a parent and so on, and so, and so on…Next thing you… Read more »

No I’m probably in about the same situation. I have two graduating this year 1 in 6th going to 7th. The other graduating High School. The last thing I’m going to do is wear a hat and a fake mustache. Might as well put on a Trench coat while I was at it.
Thank You all for the input.

Jeff two things you can do. Just go. Most people have no clue you aren’t allowed to be on school grounds. Nobody is going to recognize you. Or 2, go to the principal explain how know you are supposed to “let someone know” you are going to be on campus for your kids graduation. Don’t say you’re “here to get approval” most likely the principal doesn’t know the law either.

I’m sorry but Option #2 is bad advice…. PC 626.81.(a) reads: “A person who is required to register as a sex offender pursuant to Section 290, who comes into any school building or upon any school ground without lawful business thereon and written permission indicating the date or dates and times for which permission has been granted from the chief administrative official of that school, is guilty of a misdemeanor.” So anything short of a written, detailed permission slip is a “go to jail do not pass go” card. Not to mention a major potential embarrassment for your family. And… Read more »

A trench coat in late spring? Now your being ridiculous!

Kidding aside, I did not mean to imply you should go Mission Impossible style, only to be low key.

Good luck. I know how tough this is and wish you all the best.

Thank You

Hi Jeff,

I would email the school’s principal and request written permission. If permission is not granted, I would immediately go to the courts and ask for a preliminary injunction, to stop enforcement of the law against you. With the way in which a lot of RSO laws regarding presence restrictions have been toppling, you probably stand a pretty good chance of winning, and might even start a new movement towards determining the constitutionality of THOSE laws.

Just my two cents!

I like this approach. Make them try to explain why seeing your kids graduate makes you a danger to anyone.

Right! Apparently too many people are running scared. It’s bad enough what the registry is subjecting children of registered citizens to and now some registrants are afraid to take an active part in their child’s school activities. I find that appalling.
Forget your BS laws and permission slips and support your child.
Apparently, I have a lot more respect for the justice system than to think they’re are going to harass a mother or father for being a good parent.

If you have ANY respect for the legal system then you are sadly mistaken and wasting that respect. Do you know how many families have been broken up by the legal system? Lives distorted by cops with a savior complex who are a vendetta to save the world and/or children?

I live in a fools paradise if you think for 1 second that the legal system or anyone associated with it would not jump on the opportunity to bust any mother or father who dares to buck their system.

THEY DO NOT CARE – PLEASE OPEN YOUR EYES

Wonderin, you are so wildly wrong. You try that — just going and taking your chances – and you will learn the hard way just how wrong you are. Gee, they are looking for ANY excuse, any excuse at all, to nail registrants, for the slightest minor infraction and send them to jail, or maybe to prison. ANY minor offense. They have even made up bizarre and extreme and nonsense interpretations of the laws just to use that as an excuse to throw registrants in prison, and have done so — just read many of the appellate cases out there.… Read more »

Rest assured, that law about getting permission from the principal was not put in there because they wanted to ignore it!

Laws are there to be used when needed and are usually understandable, even from a laymen’s point of view.
Without a law in place to prevent sex offenders from entering schools they could not be arrested and removed when needed.
One thing that disturbs me about so many comments here is the constant drone about how the system is out to get you. Talk about paranoia, geez!

Paranoia? Reality? A fine line, fine line indeed.

Campbell: Sex offender arrested for being on Del Mar High School campus

“Urena noted that deputies said Pickens had been picking up cans on the campus after hours. However, “If you’re not supposed to be there, you’re not supposed to be there,” Urena said, adding sex offenders can’t be on school grounds even if students aren’t present.””

http://www.mercurynews.com/my-town/ci_25579327/campbell-sex-offender-arrested-being-del-mar-high

Oh! by the way, if you’re on parole and wearing an ankle bracelet, it might not be a good idea to be hanging around schools where children sometimes play, even after hours.

Wonderin, please do not practice what you preach — because it is only going to land you in jail. That is not paranoia, that is fact. You have not been paying attention. They have zero interest is using the law as a guideline, they are using it as an excuse — and that is not paranoia, that is fact.

I am sorry to say, but your comments are dangerously naive.

Unfortunately I’ve been beat down and my spirit busted. I am innocent of the charges that stemmed from a child custody battle back in 1989. Every time I try to stand up and fight they throw me in prison. I’ve been incarcerated on this 6 times for a total of over 7 years. I was given probation initially but just kept bucking this system and it got me nowhere but prison. I am getting old and pretty much don’t want to go back to prison.Sounds weak I know but its the truth. I have a family now and anything I… Read more »

Sorry. It is too easy to say do this, don’t do that to someone else.
I think that listening to them, not judging them, being there for them everyday you are able, and being kind, will be valued by children more than attending a one time ceremony.

I don’t know they details of your fight, but I will say, your’s has been a very honorable fight and you are to be commended. You are not weak now, you simply have done what you can. It would nice if bringing the honorable fight would mean you win in the end, but that is not what honor is about.

The more I think about it, the more I keep thinking that the better approach is this: 1) Request written permission (make request in writing via email or postal service) 2) If permission is granted, enough said! Enjoy the graduation! If it’s not, respond back, in writing, requesting the exact reason. Explain that you have no problem getting your attorney involved, and cite People v. Nguyen and People v. Godinez. Also cite the pending lawsuits against Pomona, National City, and Tahoe. That response, guaranteed, will be forwarded to the district’s attorney who is likely to suggest that permission be granted… Read more »

Paul, your general idea is good. However, the suits against Pomona, National City and Tahoe are over local ordinances, on the idea that they are preempted by state law. This bar to registrants being on school campuses without written permission of the principal is state law — so those challenges to local laws do not apply. I don’t know Nguyen or Godinez by name so can’t comment about them. But I also recommend not idly throwing around threats of lawsuits — such bluffs simply irritate people and these will be called. It is one thing to cite any legal rights… Read more »

Jeff, my child graduated middle school last year, so I understand. Fortunately, my child knows my situation and why I couldn’t go. My church has been very supportive and there were about 6 or 7 who took time off their jobs to be there for a morning commencement. Just be a good dad, make sure your kids understand the situation, and make a point to do something special for them away from the school to show them how proud you are to be their dad. We’ve done that, and my child and I have a great relationship.

Thank You
I think I will do that

Are your graduates aware of your ‘special’ situation? Our kids graduated before Jessica’s law (2006) which included the prohibition of setting foot on school property without written permission, and, quite frankly, I do not see us (yes, it is always ‘us’, not ‘he’) having requested such, formally and with the possibility of getting shot down, as well as the potential for gossip. However, that was a long time ago (~10 years, lol, an eternity) and it was possible to fly under the radar. It took a long time to grasp but I at some point I realized that graduations of… Read more »

I went to my son’s Graduation I was nervous about going but I said FUCK IT if they arrest me then I proved to do my part.
When I showed up they had my last name tapped to the chair upfront as my son requested. good this proved that I was INVITED.

Hi Jeff: My husband requested and received written permission to attend my son’s athletic events and graduation. Request a meeting with the principal, and explain what you are asking for. Give them a couple of weeks to respond as they have to submit it to the school’s attorney to give them a sample of what to write. Make it clear that you have had no other issues and want to be a supportive parent. If the principal balks at this contact the school superintendent. Or have your attorney write to them and request permission for you. We have had to… Read more »

@ Jeff, Personally I would Not, due to the fact that IF You are recognized even if You have permission You may have a Very unpleasant time & Your Child will be ostracized/bullied by the other kids; I Know It happened to My son & I Never went to a school function. We just live 1/4 mile away from his school & They parade by our houses 2 times a day. So Every one Knows Who Lives Here. Just some friendly advice. Been There dealt with that,,,not nice situation.

More interesting stuff; from one of the most corrupt cities in the east, a bastion of corruption, but this seems hidden from the news.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2604011/Reading-writing-sexual-trysts-More-100-New-York-City-school-teachers-employees-engaged-inappropriate-relationships-student-five-years.html

Does anybody have a California crime that is exempt from the Megan’s law website , but now live in Florida like me.

I have a something that is exempt from being listed here in California. My issue occurred in Florida where every RSO is listed.

If you are asking if you can argue that and not be listed on the Florida RSO list forget it. You are in Florida now and you will have to “play” by their rules…which is why I Left Florida. I didn’t feel like living under a bridge for something I didn’t even do but got the bad legal “advice” to accept a plea for!

My advice is leave Florida.

I found this really interesting. http://freethoughtblogs.com/taslima/2013/12/04/sweden-is-closing-its-prisons-what-about-a-prisonless-world/ Sweden is closing its prisons. To sum it up Sweden is closing prisons due to lack of prisoners. Sweden’s goal is rehabilitation and equality for all. I think this is a good point for RSO’s for equal protection under the law and more importantly punishment and retaliation creates and maintains uncontrollable crime rates. If punishment and retaliation is supposed to deter crime, how come it doesn’t work in the USA? And it is really obvious that it doesn’t work. How come rehabilitation work so well in Sweden, Norway and other countries that use rehabilitation?… Read more »

Event he cells in their prisons are like a decent apartment, not like a dungeon as in the US. They are simply containing people and trying to rehabilitate them

I just came across this and am devastated. We work so hard to show we aren’t a danger, then this happens and the hype starts all over.

http://ktla.com/2014/04/15/accused-o-c-serial-killers-due-in-court-for-arraignment/#axzz2yyYOPTM2

What is worse, I knew these two while I was on parole…and knew them fairly well. I knew one of them was a problem, anyone who knew him knew he was. The wasn’t like this, but ended up being influenced by the other apparently. Either way, I’m sickened by this.

Well guess what…don’t worry about it. Clearly the system is flawed and allowed 2 people out of prison who were clearly dangerous individuals. Whoever allowed them out of prison is at fault. Those are individuals and they do not in anyway represent you or me…or any of the other fine people who use this website and have the unfortunate situation of being labeled with the same broad classification. Cases like the only PROVE just how flawed the current sex offender laws have become! When resources are wasted on people like us who have done the time…paid the debt…and yet are… Read more »

So BEFORE these guys allegedly committed the crimes in question here – what made them clearly dangerous individuals worthy of never being let out of prison? Someone being at FAULT for letting them out? Is it having a conviction that is registerable under PC 290 in their past? So do most people visiting this site. Possibly including you? Or is it having a conviction that is registerable under PC 290 in their past and having served time in prison for it? And having served that sentence – paid the debt – for the offense? Again, many here have done likewise.… Read more »

My instinct is to post a snarky comment about the value of GPS trackers to protect society against such monsters. The reality is that there could be no better way to highlight the epic failure GPS trackers and the registry as a whole. They trackers are easy to cut, but in the case of these two creeps, why bother? The system doesn’t tell anyone what you are doing, just where you or the device happen to be. Likewise, the registry does not tell anyone anything more than where you have convinced the cops you sleep and get your mail. On… Read more »

I fear that in that case, they will just not let sex offenders out of prison ever — this is really what the loonies out there want. The issue is GPS devices is one of you’re damned if you do and you’re damed if you don’t. The government is not going to simply drop them; they are going to do something much more draconian instead.

You’re right. No one is going to toss the GPS system over their shoulder and shrug, “well, that didn’t work.” They’ll keep paying for it at tax payer expense and implement something harder on us but just as worthless as GPS trackers.

The Los Angeles Times last week editorialized that many sex offenders should be given life without parole.

Yah, I was wondering if the failure of gps and of registration itself just plays in the hand of those who want more draconian laws. “See, nothing works but prison.” When they can think of nothing but prison as the final solution, why would they try to make anything less severe work?

Get over it quickly….it proves their forced to be on registry doesn’t work…it is a waste of taxpayers money ……….they even had ankle bracelets on.

If this case did not include 290 registrants it would be viewed as proof that the GPS and Registration systems are worthless. But alas, it does, and it won’t be.

How did the taxpayers money prove their worth on 290 registered ..??…on what proof 290 registered system worked in this case..???……my point is a crime happened and it didn’t matter who they (accused) were…whether they were 290 or not, a crime happened ……..the fact they were still on parole and 290 is a spotlight of a failed agenda.

Here is some recividisim rates 67.5% generaly in USA 35% in Sweden. http://releasedandrestored.org/statistics.html I think for the above comment is yes this is bad but it also could point to the issue that it is not only a moral issue it is a mental health issue. Were they going for treatment? Did they have a support system? Or where they just put out and fend for them selfs? The murder rate for drug related crimes far out reaches SO murder rates yet news stations only report on SO stuff. I feel bad for those women but I believe the only… Read more »

Beautiful coincidence you posted these stories next to each other. They illustrate the collateral consequences of two opposing approaches to crime. One in Sweden, one in the US. In one you get greater social security and cohesiveness, in the other you have the perpetuation of hate, retribution and death. Need I say which one is which?

what I want to know is a man who murdered his wife as a quote mercy killing was charged with 2nd degree murder but he was home with a ankle monitor but yet they refused to give me an ankle monitor, when my case involves nobody I thought I was helping someone who thought they were gay but as you all know it don’t matter what you did if they charge you with any kind of sex charge your gonna lose, but I guess murder is not as bad as a sex crime, this just amazes me.

Hunh… Amazes me too.

Hey None, I guess next thing you know they will arrest somebody for standing across from the bank and claim he was going to rob it just because where he was standing, or arrest someone who is stearing at you to long because he was going to murder you, then next thing you know they will come by and grab people from there homes like Germany and put them in prison camps, which they already have plus they also have coffins but they will deny it of course, if you think humans can’t do things like this then you better… Read more »

Yes I would agree the USA has 5% of the population and 20% of people in prison out of the whole world. There are estimates that 1 out of 3 people in the USA has a criminal record. Interesting enough Nazi Germany started out with a sex offender registry, not going first after Jews and Gypsy’s like most people believe. Great place to read http://www.oncefallen.com/NaziSOLaws.html. Right now being tough on crime is stupid on crime. What I did is not right and I know that. Looking at illegal pictures. I wanted help but the way the laws are now I… Read more »

Not sure if this should be post in public but this is posted in sosen some where next time we go in and register can we give them this notice? I hereby invoke and refuse to waive all the following rights and privileges afforded to me by the US constitution. I invoke and refuse to waive my 5th amendment right – my right to remain silent – do not ask me any questions. I invoke and refuse to waive my 6th amendment right to an attorney of my choice. Do not ask me any question without my attorney present. I… Read more »

Wouldn’t it much simpler to just say; “I’m not going to sign that unless my attorney says I must; and you need to run any question’s through mt attorney because I don’t want to talk to you unless my attorney says I have to, here’s my attorney’s business card.” And if they come to your house wouldn’t it be much more fun to say “No, I’m not consenting to any kind of search, and ditto for looking around the property. And I don’t want to talk to you either; Why? Ask my attorney, here’s a business card.” And then you… Read more »

Just don’t answer the door and watch them drive off to the doughnut shop.

I think it only a matter of time before all attorney client privileges cease to exist. “It doesn’t matter what you’re accused of– theft. treason. triple homicide. With very limited exceptions, an attorney cannot be compelled to testify against a client, nor can their communications be subpoenaed for evidence.” “Yet in a United States Tax Court decision announced on Wednesday, the court dismissed attorney client privilege, stating that:” “When a person puts into issue his subjective intent in deciding how to comply with the law, he may forfeit the privilege afforded attorney-client communications.” “In other words, if a person works… Read more »

I would like to show up at ALL RSO FEDERAL HEARING to show my support for Janice and Frank. is there a way we can know when the hearing date is so we can make plan ?

This is the kind of attitude that get’s stuff started This Guy Believes & I Quote,” I have that right because my rights in the community are more important than his rights in the community.”???Really? & this is hitting Australia Now & I have friends There…http://tvnz.co.nz/sunday-news/naming-convicted-sex-offenders-5941708
This Crap is goin’ world wide

& Congrat’s to Janice & Frank I support & Believe;-)We shall Over Come,,,Someday. But Janice You Are Doin’ a Great Job of Keeping Them in line & Thank You Mam.

I’m wanting to get some feedback on this and find out if any others are dealing with this. My wife recently visited the Megan’s Law website and saw it has my risk assessment at 3 and says it is based on the Static-99 assessment from 2010. Here’s the problem: I have never taken the Static-99 for the state of California, and the assessment I did was in 2009 and I was told by one of the psychologists at the parole office that their assessment showed me as “very low risk,” and that’s after a year of being forced to be… Read more »

Could it be because you are homeless and not living in what they might consider a stable lifestyle?

Mine is blank again… one day it was 0 and now its blank…

That could be part of it, but it doesn’t change that they blatantly are putting false information saying the risk assessment of 3 comes from a Static-99 in 2010 when I never did the Static-99 for the state, much less in 2010. My concern is the blatant false information, not just the risk value they’ve put on me.

So my annual is fast approaching.. I hope like all my past visits (10 years) that it’ll be quick, streamline, and awkward like having a doctor sticking his finger up your butt….

Great visual. Thanks for that.

Yup, it went smooth.. Appointment at 7:30am… got there at 6:40am and they took me in at 7am.. one thing I noticed over the years is the digital finger scanner/computer/camera system takes time to boot up or they have to restart a number of times.. Every so often I don’t get photos or fingerprints and they just manually handwrite the paperwork.. but it seems like this year the system turned on and hiccupped a few times and works like normal… so in and out about 30minutes. The two detectives were professional ( I am assuming they are detectives because of… Read more »

Can anyone help me clarify something> I have an 1987 conviction (adult victim), paroled in 94 and released from parole in ’97. Apart from annual registration, I have had no contact with LE. While I know that I am not subject to Jessica’s Law residency restrictions, I am a little hazy in another areas: What are the rules regarding my presence on school property and, what defines a “school?” Can I take my kid to gymnastics classes at a dedicated gymnastics (karate, ballet, etc.) and wait with the other parents? If my church has a school on its grounds, can… Read more »

I’m not a lawyer, but this is my understanding of it. No registrant can enter the property of a public school without prior permission. That means the guy who has to register because he was drunk and nailed for indecent exposure when he was caught urinating in an alley is still not allowed on public school property. From what I understand, it does not apply to private schools, including church run schools. Again, I’m not a lawyer, but that is my understanding of it. As far as waiting with other parents at the gymnastics class, as long as it’s not… Read more »

Thank you! 🙂

626.81. (a) A person who is required to register as a sex offender pursuant to Section 290, who comes into any school building or upon any school ground without lawful business thereon and written permission indicating the date or dates and times for which permission has been granted from the chief administrative official of that school, is guilty of a misdemeanor. 626. (a) As used in this chapter, the following definitions apply: (4) “School” means any public or private elementary school, junior high school, four-year high school, senior high school, adult school or any branch thereof, opportunity school, continuation high… Read more »

any public right-of-way situated immediately adjacent to school property
sounds like the sidewalk or street in front of the school where students and pupils must drive or walk to get int the campus.

Maybe it is wishful thinking but am trying to rationalize that this does not apply to a private martial arts academy that does not have the word school in the title or signage, or Church that has a school on the same grounds.

Under 626.(a); I’m trying to figure the rationale of prohibiting registrants from ‘Adult School’. Certainly there must be many registrants whose crimes were committed when they were minors and became unable to complete high school due to social taboos and harassment. I think it would be in society’s best interest if they were able to at least get a GED and maybe go on to higher education. I hope there are stipulations around this peculiar policy as ‘Adult Schools’ are self explanatory. I was a minor (17yrs.) my first year of college, registrants aren’t restricted from college.

That looks like and quacks like a duck…its a duck……parole conditions have an end date usually of three years…….NOT alifetime ….injustice must be challenged that extends parole//////////punishment.

I was doing a little reminiscing tonight of these loony presence restrictions and looked up the Lake Forest Battle between Mayor Kathryn McCullough VS. Tony Rackauckas. That was when the Mayor was asking Tony to indemnify the city against a pending Federal Lawsuit. Eric Knight posted a transcript of the heated debate here back on Dec. 5, 2012. and Janice had this little premonition: ———————————————————————————- Janice Bellucci December 5, 2012 at 5:50 pm You are very welcome! I was proud to stand with 7 others in support of the city’s repeal of this ordinance. It is indeed a night to… Read more »

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