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CA RSOL Meeting – May 9 in Los Angeles

The monthly meeting for May will take place on May 9 in Los Angeles at the usual location in Los Angeles, at the ACLU Building at 1313 W. 8th Street, Los Angeles, CA 90017. Start time is 10 am.

The main focus of discussion will center on the recent California Supreme Court decisions about residence restrictions.

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We need answers NOW. Not later, but now. Too many of us who I’ve talked with are at a complete loss as to what we’re supposed to do. Do we stay in our homes, or do we leave?

I am seriously disappointing in lack of information on this website because i turn to this site as my official source of information relating to the California side of things. There must be a darn good reason why it’s so quite here relating to the rulings.

Nicholas you need to remember the people that run this website do this out of the goodness of their hearts. If you want legal info go out and pay for a lawyer.

If you are not on probation or parole live where you want. If you want legal information, call a lawyer or e-mail Janice for specific answers. This website enables RCs and their family and friends to voice their opinions and see how the rulings are around the country. I can honestly say that reading all the comments and articles on this site have shown me that the laws are changing and so is opinions. I can honestly say that I see the registries being ruled unconstitutional. When? I do not know, but after 16 years of being on a registry… Read more »

You are assuming i’m just kicking back, complaining without having done anything or gone to any meetings? You’d be wrong: I purposely chose San Diego as my first choice when moved, so i can attend my first CA RSOL conference. Mind you, this was a 2 day drive from where i used to live. Think about that. Also, I’ve been writing software and automation for years now, building the tools to launch a massive network to give registrants and their family members realtime information like a newswire service. I’ve also been working to connect up with various individuals to coordinate… Read more »

Seems to me that CARSOL needs to have a full time legal staff that is always active in the courts. I myself are looking at legal advice, but I cannot afford to retain. I have always believed that a class action lawsuit that names all interested RCs, filed in a federal court for the constitutional violations of the registry. When Megans law was passed, no studies were done. Studies have shown that have been done since, showing how the law is useless and draconian. If a class action is sought, I will be first in line. If it doesn’t cost… Read more »

Resources are limited. Sure, it would be nice to have a staff a top lawyers dedicated to nothing by reviewing court decisions and filing a cases. But that takes big time money and resources, and what is spent on that cannot be available for other things. IN another thread, I’ll bet someone will complain CA RSOL isn’t do more to lobby, but that takes resources too. Frankly, I would think something called the American Civil Liberties Union should have been all over this crap since it was first pushed through by Bill Clinton — after all, this is the biggest… Read more »

The chicken or the egg?

The courts or the legislature?

In my experience, the legislatures around the country are NOT stepping up to the plate, and in fact have strong, powerful incentives to PROMOTE non-constitutional laws. That leaves us with one option: the courts. And specifically, the FEDERAL courts.

Only the courts can administer the necessary spankings that the childish legislators need in order to stay in line with their duties. I truly wish that we could sway public opinion, but like original civil rights, the real legal battles must first start through the court system.

Nicholas M- We understand your frustration on the residency decisions – or rather lack of a decision. First off, Supreme court decisions are not official for 30 days, which can be extended to 90 days for review. Then the Mosley decision basically threw it back to local jurisdictions to decide restrictions and/or come up with an ordinance. We are interacting with LA DA and a few other key agencies to see what their official positions will be. I say “will be” because it has not been determined. You are right to be concerned. Many here post and believe registration restrictions… Read more »

@ Nicholas: You’re entitled to your own feelings of disappointment. But, you need to keep one thing in mind: Janice, Frank, Chance and the rest with CA-RSOL are ALL YOU’VE GOT! You need to be thankful for the work that these folks are doing as well as the “bullets” they are taking for the rest of us as they march on the front lines. If you feel you have something more to offer, then by all means STEP UP!

I DID Stand Up.. I’ve stepped up and i’ve taken many hits for others too. I’ve given up a tonne of my life for others in this fight. I just sent in my resignation for one network and i’m turning back the dials and shutting down all the work i’ve done that all of you would have been benefiting from more directly in the form of real time networked information that has been increasingly difficult to obtain without manually looking for it yourselves. It seems that lately, people have forgotten who I am or what i’ve done for this movement,… Read more »

Nicholas,

The reason it seems quiet regarding the Taylor case is that the CA.Supreme Court ruling basically didn’t change much.

The only change (currently) is that parole cannot put a blanket residency restriction on those in San Diego County. Although…that doesn’t mean that registrants in San Diego can’t have any residency restrictions, they just have to be more narrowly tailored.

Everyone is completely frustrated by this, even the lawyers…

Nicholas, Frankly, I’m at a loss as to your request. I’ve been involved in one way or another since the original Smith v. Doe decision. I really don’t know what you want, other than to magically have politicians, judges, and sheeple to simultaneously recant their irrational behavior with regard to creating the most suppressive regime of unconstitutional laws this country has put out since reconstruction. That’s not going to happen. Janice, Chance, and Frank have performed more selflessly, and frankly, more successfully than any other entity has in the entire country with regard to fighting sex offender laws. They’ve done… Read more »

M&T said “It’s not unlike the US Supreme court’s positive ruling on gay marriage in California in June 2103, which people “assumed” meant you can’t enforce a ban elsewhere. But nearly two years later Alabama is doing just that. Until a clear decision is “ripe” on Jessica’s Law by the Cal Supreme court, it will be uncertain and murky for registrants. And I’m suspect that’s just the way law enforcement and the courts want it.” I agree it is a positive ruling to let a lower courts decision stand, which is what the SCOTUS did in June, 2013 regarding gay… Read more »

Anonymously- Yes, the current SCOTUS progress on gay marriage is encouraging, as is the initial progress on Residency Restrictions. You state: “Blanket residency restrictions for California registrants were declared unconstitutional by the California Supreme Court.” This is not quite correct. The initial concept is broadly beneficial, but the scope and application is narrow. I do not want to speak or infer on Janice’s behalf, so let me quote from her “Janice’s Journal” posting: “In re Taylor, the Court appears to hand registrants a solid victory by boldly and correctly declaring that residency restrictions violate the Constitution. The Court bases this… Read more »

The only reason i should be hiring a lawyer is to seek seriously and disturbingly large amounts of cash as compensation for the entire 5 years my rights were violated. After all, the ruling is pretty clear of that. We shouldn’t each be forced to pay for a lawyer to tell us if we can stay in our homes or not. And we shouldn’t be forced to hire a lawyer to fight back or block enforcement while we try and get the same ruling applied to us in each county. Janice is the only lawyer i’ve trusted, ever. I don’t… Read more »

We all have to deal on with this bs injustices. We need to stick together to fight and win this battle. Not cry and give up when things dont go our way.

I am so grateful for Janice and her team. I felt so alone before I found this website. I feel that it has been NOTHING but helpful. Every time I attend my therapy mandated by Parole, I feel that it is a win for our side if I can educate just ONE person on this noble cause of RSOL and it’s website. Which I do a lot Janice! I know right now it seems tough. I am currently a student studying to be a paralegal. The other day I had to read about the California Supreme Court related to citing… Read more »

I’m so glad you’re almost off parole. I’ve been through community based therapy. It’s just the same mind raping that they use on drug offenders to make us so miserable that we will NEVER commit a crime again. The counselors I had were so angry at us and even more perverted than we were. One counselor asked me if I fantasized about the little p—y of a little girl in a CP movie I saw. Those were his words. From what I heard he got dismissed over allegations that he sexually abused boys while working as a YA counselor. No… Read more »

“…even more perverted than we were…” The counselor we had would tells us “that he and his wife would allow their kids run around the house all day long naked”. About a year after I graduated I saw him in store, he wanted me to come to his house to do some work. I told him ‘no’, and he ask why? I told him ‘because his naked kids.’

September is just around the corner. Hang in there. I completed my probation last September. It was actually parole because I did a year in state prison but because of AB 109 I was given probation. I also completed my court required treatment last October. I started the program a month after I was released but decided to continue the program because of two reasons. One the therapist was a genuinely good guy, and two he is the husband of one of my former professors from the university I attended. Small world. Your idea for a support group is awesome.… Read more »

M&T, Jessica’s Law was about local cities being able to enact this insanity. I personally, speaking only for myself, think the California Supreme Court ruling would HAVE to be applicable to ALL rso’s. To carve out a special pocket for San Diego parolees only seems ridiculous to me. The justices considered many things that show difficulty in rso’s to get housing that apply to all rso’s. They mentioned landlords not wanting to rent to parolee rso’s which applies to all rso’s. They mentioned parolees mostly only able to afford low cost apartments. Also applies to all rso’s. The case was… Read more »

Last week they sent a parole agent to check to see if my registration was compliant. I am not on parole, never have been, and my probation ended 10 years ago. San Diego County law enforcement apparently does not make the distiction whether we are on parole or not when it cones to monitoring us. We are all considered in the same boat. How is that for case by case consideration. Maybe next time they’ll send a traffic cop. Really.

Hi timmr I hope all you said was “yes, I live here” because there is no law that says “compliance checks have to be done. The domestic terrorist where I live seem to all suffer from rectal cranial inversion and like to play the intimidation game, counting on their victims ignorance as they look for anything they can use to maqke an arrest. This year I’ve decided to be nice to the f-tards and say “yes, I live here.” Anything beyond that I’ll just hand them Janice’s or Chances card and tell them that they will answer all questions they… Read more »

San Diego is ridiculous. In the 18 years I’ve been registering I’ve never had one compliance check. La county, SFV area.

Timmr, that’s very interesting that they sent a Parole Officer. In doing so, it suggests that Registration IS continuing punishment as they clearly consider Registration to entail continuing CDCR supervision BEYOND your original sentence!
Continuing supervision BEYOND the original punishment would be Ex Post Facto punishment, wouldn’t it?

I am surprise that any, “over worked”, parole officer would accept this duty, as the parole officer is an employee of the State doing job the city. Someting fishy here.

Yes; something does smell rather funny. Why would a state employee be doing a job that is the responsibility of the local jurisdiction that timmr lives in? That is unless the guy moonlights for the LE in the neighborhood timmr lives in.

Yes, this was strange, there was this big “Parole” label on his shirt and I pointed that out. He said he was helping the sheriffs as part of the SAFE (?) program in SD County. I though that only involved county personnel. Odd that the overworked parole agents blamed for not preventing the King/Dubois murders now can waste time monitoring people who are compliant and the responsibility of the local officials. Can’t recall exactly, but I remember in the past being visited by FBI. What the heck? Is this a Kafka novel turned real?

The next time these same thing happens, get names, badge numbers and relay this to their agency headships and to elected reps in Sacramento in a form of a question and demand an answer.

I’m asking the questions anyway, because I want to know who runs this SAFE task force and how they decide who gets checked and how often, and who gets chosen to do the checking. It’s not enough to question the foot soldiers. You know, if enough of us get answers, this site could publish the information on how these programs are run, by jurisdiction.

It is my understanding that the SAFE Program is a regional enforcement team comprised of investigators from five different participating agencies with jurisdiction in the San Diego area. There are also at least a dozen “member” (me too! me too!!) agencies- http://sdsafe.org/

I looked at that sight. I find it interesting that what we are calling compliance checks, the site calls 290 compliance investigations. Who decides who will be investigated ? If the investigations are random, do the not look arbitrary and only exist because we are on the registry?

I don’t understand by what authority the US marshalls operate under this program, which is a department of the SD Sheriffs department?

Operation Safe? Oh pa-lease. A more appropriate name would be “Operation waste taxpayers money to look like we’re actually doing something constructive for once.” People are really dumbed down because they get their information from the propaganda ministry (any lame stream media outlet; including Hollywood.)

It would seem that even the state parole agents want to cash in on the “sex offender” cash cow as much as possible.

Timmr, they probably use “compliance investigation” instead of “compliance check” because it sounds more serious and time-consuming (thereby allowing for more billable hours/overtime.)

Where were you? I was in Sacramento with Janice and Frank to lobby the Legislature. There were four of us on the registry that participated. I took a day off without pay to be there and the expense of flying up there. Where were you? There are 80,000 of us on the registry, hundreds attend the RSOL meetings across the state. Where were you? We complain about a lack of action. We ask Janice, Chase and Frank to be the bearer of our cross. We want action. But where are we? Janice has been saying for years, “Show up, Stand… Read more »

Thank you, Mark, for joining us in Sacramento! You were a real asset in our meetings with elected officials and their staff. We need more people like you to join us in Sacramento, to write letters and to make phone calls. I called all of the legislative offices on Thursday and it only took 15 minutes. Most offices only want to know your first name and your zip code. Please call on Monday if you can.

ok all you guys can chill im here now iv been liveing this nightmare for 17 years now i waz very young when i got put on memegans law im a dad now and my kids have lived a crazy life becus of this now im not bout to go into everything iv been thrue becus i know you all know all ready but im here to change theez laws i think this happen to me for a reason i will fight and change theez law till the death of me

Janice, an L.A. meeting request: If possible, can you update us about how Los Angeles County prosecutors and/or sheriffs will be handling “residency restrictions” in light of the recent CA Supreme Court’s decision? Thanks in advance for any info. See y’all Saturday!

Good meeting. Got all my questions answered. Valuable information was shared. Good opportunities to learn from fellow RCs and supporters how to navigate the 290 minefield. Helps you feel less isolated and abandoned.

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