ACSOL’s Conference Calls

Conference Call Recordings Online
Dial-in number: 1-712-770-8055, Conference Code: 983459

Monthly Meetings: Nov 21, Dec 19 – Details / Recordings

Emotional Support Group Meetings 2020 (Phone only)


IL: Little-known registry lists murderers in your town, but is it a good thing?

… But a few strategic keystrokes will lead anyone with internet access to information about _____’s murder conviction, his current address and a recent photo. His is among more than 3,600 names on the Illinois State Police Murderer and Violent Offender Against Youth Registry, a tool established in 2012 by state lawmakers at the urging of families of victims. …

“I’ve had comments on that already, where people think you’re a sex offender,” _____ said. “I’m not a registered sex offender.” But because of the similarity between the two registries, “it’s like I’m being treated like one.” Full Article

Join the discussion

  1. Bill Arthur

    Headline from the Chicago Tribune:
    Little-known registry lists murderers in your town, but is it a good thing?

    There’s an online registry in Illinois which lists murderers and there are these amazing things to consider in the story:
    1. The IML doesn’t apply to those convicted of murder.

    2. The murderer in this story (who served his time) complains that neighbors are confused and mistake him for a registered sex offender — he’d rather they realize he’s only a murderer.

    3. A professor comes out against this registry (would he also argue against the sex offender registry): Arthur Lurigio, a professor of psychology and criminal justice at Loyola University in Chicago noted those on the [murderer’s] registry were already punished. “It’s a perpetual punishment,” Lurigio said. “It’s a continuation of the punishment along different lines, a social punishment in which you’re locked in a category.”

    The professor also said: “Murderers have low recidivism rates. I’m not talking about serial killers, I’m talking about more run-of-the-mill,” one-time offenders, Lurigio said.

    Sex offenders are more likely to offend again because sex crimes are highly compulsive, Lurigio said.

    “We’re registering people because we believe they are at an enhanced, specific risk of reoffending, although that kind of (psychological) assessment is never done,” Lurigio said. “We don’t predict really well who’s going to reoffend (or know) what kinds of triggers” might cause them to do so, he said. Older people, for example, “are less likely to reoffend in any criminal category than younger people.”

    “We put people in this one category, and we think they’re monolithic … and that is absolutely not true,” he said.

    Here’s the link to the entire story:

    • Punished for Life

      I wonder how many vigilantes would harass a murderer. What happens if you really piss him off. He might just go postal on you. In fact a murderer just might get upset and take out the Judge who sent him up the river. He might take out anyone involved with
      creating the murderers registry.

      No one fears the RSO. As a vigilante, you might really make a RSO so mad he just might flash you.

      The psychologist doesn’t want a murderer after him. But that same psychologist can pick on the SO and what’s the worst that might happen in retaliation?

      I hate to tell Bremly this, but as far as I know most sex offenders don’t kill anyone.
      Once a person is murdered, there is absolutely nothing that dead person can do to have even a bad life.

      Let’s get everyone on a registry for something, and just break the system financially.

      I’m not sure I’d want a psychologist living next door to me.


    • Erwin

      These types of stories are nice to bring up but this particular one is not a very good comparison with the plight of adult sex offenders. The person in this story was a minor when he committed a homicide. In some states, even individuals who committed a sex offense as a minor don’t have to register. And in most of the states that do require registration, their names aren’t made public. So I don’t see murderers getting a better break than RSOs. Now if this man committed a homicide as an adult, that would be a worthy comparison. But then again, most adult murderers either stay behind bars or get the needle. I’m sure the man in this story believes he made a dumb naive mistake (a rather big mistake) in his youth. So he wants to be left alone
      ….but it is interesting he rather be considered a murderer than a sex offender

    • Doc Martin

      “Printouts from both the murderer and sex offender registries, showing a criminal’s photograph and vital information, are sometimes posted in the lobbies of local police departments”putt

      If the LAPD did this, they would have to have one huge lobby to post all those mugshots on the wall.

    • Doc Martin

      “He said he wants his neighbors to know they have nothing to fear from him”

      “I’ve had comments on that already, where people think you’re a sex offender,” Brumley said. “I’m not a registered sex offender.” But because of the similarity between the two registries, “it’s like I’m being treated like one.”

      Well gee dude. Your neighbors should have nothing to fear about you riding along with some thugs who went out to kidnap & murder someone. As long as you’re not some sex offender caught downloading some underage porn, your neighbors will be cool about your background

    • New Person

      So this professor psychology and criminal justice knows the low recidivism rates of murderers, but is absolutely oblivious about the recidivism rates of registrants?

      I find it comical where he denotes a difference between serial and one time killers, but bunched registrants as one.


  2. Chris F

    Any public list or requirements after probation have ended for any crime should be a violation of due process. If I have not specifically been determined to be a current threat to society in a fair hearing where both sides present evidence, then I should be treated like anyone else that has paid their debt to society.

  3. Timmr

    I was on the receiving end of unwanted, although non-violent sexual advance. I was still able to experience some wonderful things in my life. I’ll take that over being killed, period. If putting people on a list prevents crime, which it doesn’t, I’ll put the latter crime on that list before the former.

    • Erwin

      I’ve been thru the same thing in my childhood, Timmr
      But it didn’t mess me up for life. People have to learn to move on and not let things weigh them down. Anything is better than being the dead victim of a kidnapping/murder by some thugs and a young teenager who just decided to do a ride along

      • Timmr

        There are a lot of dangers and disappointments in life, but there is much to be thankful for.
        Of course, I hate to say that sometimes, because someone somewhere will think you are not suffering enough and try to make a law to correct that.
        I give a big middle finger to that.

Leave a Reply

We welcome a lively discussion with all view points - keeping in mind...  
  • Your submission will be reviewed by one of our volunteer moderators. Moderating decisions may be subjective.
  • Please keep the tone of your comment civil and courteous. This is a public forum.
  • Please stay on topic - both in terms of the organization in general and this post in particular.
  • Please refrain from general political statements in (dis)favor of one of the major parties or their representatives.
  • Please take personal conversations off this forum.
  • We will not publish any comments advocating for violent or any illegal action.
  • We cannot connect participants privately - feel free to leave your contact info here. You may want to create a new / free, readily available email address.
  • Please refrain from copying and pasting repetitive and lengthy amounts of text.
  • Please do not post in all Caps.
  • If you wish to link to a serious and relevant media article, legitimate advocacy group or other pertinent web site / document, please provide the full link. No abbreviated / obfuscated links.
  • We suggest to compose lengthy comments in a desktop text editor and copy and paste them into the comment form
  • We will not publish any posts containing any names not mentioned in the original article.
  • Please choose a user name that does not contain links to other web sites
  • Please send any input regarding moderation or other website issues to moderator [at] all4consolaws [dot] org
ACSOL, including but not limited to its board members and agents, does not provide legal advice on this website.  In addition, ACSOL warns that those who provide comments on this website may or may not be legal professionals on whose advice one can reasonably rely.  

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *