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Join RTAG’s conference call about possible changes to Angel Watch and Guardian Angel

[registranttag.org – 2/28/20]

ALL are invited to hear Update to RTAG’s and Matt Ameika’s Mexican law firm efforts to effect the Angel Watch notification system and Mexico’s parallel Guardian Angel program. We have the acquired 5 Amparo (Remedy) cases to hopefully make changes to immigration procedures. Furthermore, the Mexican courts have recently established that the Mexican constitution and legal rights take priority over international agreements. We have also begun a process of engaging Mexican judges and government officials. Finally, we will discuss plans going forward. Paul Rigney and Matt will discuss for 30 mins then open for questions.

03/05/2020 9 PM ET
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Does anyone know if this will be recorded?

Allow me to summarize the phone conference. DHS the US Marshall’s and the FBI are sending notices to other Countries about impending travel to their country by RSO’s. These RSO’s are often times turned away and have suffered consequences and other damages because they were sent back to the United States and could not arrive at their destination. “We have the required 5 Amparo (Remedy) cases to hopefully make changes to immigration procedures. Furthermore, the Mexican courts have recently established that the Mexican constitution and legal rights take priority over international agreements. And we will discuss plans going forward.” The… Read more »

Three agencies/offices sending notices? That is overkill which also seems to be bit in contrast to the process we understand here from comments, e.g. notification to local LE, LE to DOJ/USMS/Angel Watch, then to Interpol, then overseas? If DHS, FBI, and USMS are sending notifications, then they would be sending them to their respective counterparts and Interpol? Something is amiss here about the process stated (or not if actually that way).

@TS, our government is less than forthcoming about their processes and procedures regarding the information bring sent and even if you are no longer registered under what conditions and criteria they are using to determine whether or not they will send notices on an ex-registrant and what they are actually saying about registrants and ex registrants. This is intentional. The more they disclose, the more clear it would be that the intent is to prevent travel entirely and be so obviously ex post facto. So far it’s more difficult to make that argument because at least outwardly they say they… Read more »

@TS ” That is overkill which also seems to be bit in contrast to the process we understand here from comments”

Have you been reading the comments here for the past 6 years? I have.

And yes if the notices that they send to other countries won’t get you, then Interpol can and will stop you.

Joint reply to @PK and @M C @PK – Yes, I have been reading comments here for a number of years. The biggest one is the Interpol line as described and in the law. I may have read here about the FBI contacting their counterparts, sorta rings a bell, but don’t recall DHS doing that. Not saying they don’t but I don’t recall it right now. It begs to be asked then to ask each of the agencies/offices for their procedures to see how they reply, if they reply, with details on it. I believe @Janice here said use Privacy… Read more »

The audio with the attorney was horrible. I plan a followup conf call with just
myself commenting where we are at and opening up for discussion

brasil has retiree visas, but i cannot go to my home there because of angel watch, they are evil vindictive interlopers. they will probably harrass those who are dropped from california registry in a few months.

If you really wanted to get to Brazil, you could figure out a way.

It was I will post on our blog

I wonder what the feds are saying on these notices being sent out to foreign countries, after a registrant has complied and told law enforcement their detailed travel plans which they’re required to do?

I wonder as well. They had the Polizei waiting for me when I arrived in Germany. They said they wanted to do a interview to determine if I would be allowed in the country. During the interview, having disclosed my conviction is 20 years old, I’ve been out for 13 years crime free, and am married with children, they determined they would allow me to enter the country and even questioned how the American government is able to get away with doing that to people. They actually said to me “the past is the past, you should be allowed to… Read more »

@Gralphr

When did this happen? Just recently?

I have flown into Germany several times, the last time 5 weeks ago.

If our Gov buddies have escalated the noticing, that is very disturbing.

I have travel planned to Germany and Spain, but it doesn’t look like that will happen any time soon, for obvious reasons.

Hello,

Yes, it happened a couple of weeks ago. Theres nothing to fear though, the German police still allowed me in and questioned why the Us would harass me over a 20 year old conviction.

@Gralphr Thanks for the response. I’m glad you were able to get in okay. And I probably would also, since my conviction was 25 years ago, involved no prison time, and I usually travel with my wife of 42 years (kids are all grown up). Still, this seems to be an escalation. In my many flights in and out of Europe, I have never been treated any different than other travelers. What if you missed a connecting flight? What if you had been traveling with friends, or kids, or friends of your kids, or business associates, or others who were… Read more »

Gralphr and Mike G, that IS concerning about Germany pulling you aside. That’s the first I’ve heard of that. I was pulled aside in Spain a couple years ago after transiting Germany, but after a “routine” passport secondary check (no interview or discussion that indicated they knew WHY they were pulling me aside) I was sent on my way with a smile…

Excuse me for getting involved in this topic but all of you are right and I’m sure we are just as confused as being classified as a sex offender. Much of this whole ordeal is about sex issues in many ways. Sure any country wants to hold their head high and help another country with justice. Even some of the particulars about who’s arriving at gate 1 or whatever the case may be. While we are talking about sex offenders or should we all go back to high school or jr. high and review the epic poem Dante’s Infernio. A… Read more »

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