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CA: New California law to make it easier for former inmate firefighters to turn pro

Gov. Gavin Newsom signed a new bill Friday that will accelerate the process for expunging the felony records of formerly incarcerated volunteer firefighters.

The new law is designed to make it far easier for them to earn an emergency medical technician certification, the first step in becoming a professional firefighter in most cities and counties. Full Article

From AB 2147:

1203.4b. (a) (1) If a defendant successfully participated in the California Conservation Camp program as an incarcerated individual hand crew member, as determined by the Secretary of the Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation, or successfully participated as a member of a county incarcerated individual hand crew, as determined by the appropriate county authority, and has been released from custody, the defendant is eligible for relief pursuant to this section, except that incarcerated individuals who have been convicted of any of the following crimes are automatically ineligible for relief pursuant to this section: …

(A) Murder.
(B) Kidnapping.
(C) Rape as defined in paragraph (2) or (6) of subdivision (a) of Section 261 or paragraph (1) or (4) of subdivision (a) of Section 262.
(D) Lewd acts on a child under 14 years of age, as defined in Section 288.
(E) Any felony punishable by death or imprisonment in the state prison for life.
(F) Any sex offense requiring registration pursuant to Section 290.
(G) Escape from a secure perimeter within the previous 10 years.
(H) Arson.

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Why include parts C and D when they already fall under F?

@SR, Exactly. Why include the C and D only to encompass it with the registry just reveals the blanket enforcement of the registry. There are some charges where some convictions get probation because it’s a misdemeanor or a wobbler. So if you’re able to get your wobbler reduced to a misdemeanor or earn a 1203.4, then you’re ability to reintegrate into society is scarred with being omitted from all these laws to help convicts reintegrate into society better. Are misdemeanors more dangerous than other misdemeanors? 1203.4 should give one the same equal benefits, but omitting a set of convicts who… Read more »

“… but omitting a set of convicts who earned the 1203.4 or had a misdemeanor is unconstitutional.”

I’ve often wondered if it isn’t an equal protection violation to let several felonies be expunged but not certain misdemeanors. I think it’s a major equal protection violation in my opinion.

I take it the mentality of lawmakers is, ” Look folks can be raped while their house is on fire, so people forced into slavery need to be excluded.” Seriously there needs to be a competency test for lawmakers.

(H) Arson.

Well, duh?

Yeah, don’t want to let the chief into the kitchen.

Wouldn’t it be easier to just say, “ No one is allowed to hire a Registrant for ANY job, no matter their qualifications or offense”. In fact let’s go a step further. Let’s make ANY described sex offense a capital crime and be done with it. That’s really what they want to do, but their “compassion” won’t allow them to publicly say it.
On a side note, why post these things on the site when all it does is re enforce the fact that we aren’t wanted or considered valuable to the community.

Interesting about this fire fighter issue. I have a little confession to make with much of this going on this. I had never been around a firefighter until I started my business. Course all thats over as I gave it up many years even before I being involved in this issue, and yes I was around kids. Matter of fact I use to entertain kids. Yes I had write ups in the newspaper, took penelogy and learned a bit about government along the way which we all should understand plus a bit of constitutional issues. Even much of this internet… Read more »

Saddles, I appreciate your musings. They give cause to stop, think and consider an assortment of scenarios. It’s important to remember that battling the Registry and all connected stipulations isn’t just about overcoming legislation, it involves defeating a pervading mindset that is rooted in baseless hysteria. While I was on parole in Connecticut, a probation officer at one of my SO treatment sessions said, “Remember, if you have a minor stipulation and walk by a house that is on fire, you should make no attempt to rescue anyone. Since you don’t know if there is a minor inside, you should… Read more »

They allow them to be firefighters for $2 a day but won’t hire them as firefighters for a livable wage. This won’t make any difference. First they won’t want sex offenders as firefighters, then they won’t want anyone with a drug conviction, then they won’t want anyone with a theft conviction, then they won’t want…

This is a “feel good law” that will do absolutely nothing. When positions for a professional firefighter career open up anywhere in California-Stan, thousands of qualified, competent men and women apply; every single time. There is absolutely no chance that any department, anywhere, would hire a person with any kind of criminal record when there are literally thousands of choices to pick from that don’t have a criminal record. The professional liars know this. They are doing it to say that they “are doing something” about criminal justice reform, even though they know for a fact that not a single… Read more »

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