International Travel 2023

This post is intended as a place for discussions about International Travel ONLY.

For more information and previous discussions on the topic, please see International Travel 2022, International Travel 2021, International Travel 2020 and International Travel 2019.

In this International Travel 2023 post, the information is identical to the International Travel 2022 post. We added a new post for 2023 in order to keep the discussion manageable. Please help us by sticking to the topic of International Travel only.

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From 2020: We have updated our main International Travel section. It features:

  1. List of Schengen Nations (allowing entry to registrants);
  2. Resources (including a CA DOJ Travel Notification Form); and
  3. User Submitted Travel Reports.

This post is linked from the Main Menu at the top of the site.

1. The 26 Schengen Nations (which allow registrants to visit)

As an agreement, Schengen was signed among the five out of ten countries of the European Union members back then, on the 14th June 1985. Under the Schengen agreement, travelling from one Schengen country to another is done without any passport and immigration controls or any other formalities previously required.

Austria
Belgium
Czech republic
Denmark
Estonia
Finland
France
Germany
Greece
Hungary
Iceland
Italy
Latvia
Liechtenstein
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Malta
Netherlands
Norway
Poland
Portugal
Slovakia
Slovenia
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland

Note: US Citizens are visa exempt when visiting the Schengen area for up to 90 days in a 180 day period (List of Countries, Section B or map).  The European Commission is proposing activation of the European Travel Information and Authorisation System (ETIAS) for such travelers, beginning sometime in 2023 – which may or may not take criminal convictions into account. ETIAS Fact Sheet April 2018July 2018

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I’ll try to post this about visiting the UK again. Didn’t work last time.

“U.S. citizens will soon have to apply for permission before their United Kingdom trips and pay a small fee to enter as part of the country’s upcoming Electronic Travel Authorization scheme.
The travel fee is meant to secure the U.K.’s borders by giving them more accurate data on who is passing through, according to a U.K. official for the British Consulate General. The move is part of the U.K.’s plan to fully digitize its borders by 2025. 
“The scheme will give the U.K. more control of our borders, allowing us to block threats from entering the U.K., whilst also providing individuals, and carriers, with more assurance at an earlier point in time about their ability to travel to the U.K.,” according to the U.K. government website.”

This seems like a plus if we know ahead of time that we are going to be rejected. Does anyone else look at it this way?

(note: this isn’t ETIAS)

Just curious what the situation would be if you went out on private boat from a harbor with no particular destination on an extended trip?

😳 😲 It has to be said: you are literally willing to go to the ends of the Earth to try to escape the registries!!! 😬
We must abolish them the registries! Please donate to ACSOL (or any other anti-registry organization).
We all want our freedom!
Let’s fight this nightmare together!

Denied entry into Thailand story. Follow and subscribe to my YouTube page for more content.

I just returned from Aruba. Beautiful country. No problems entering or exiting. Leaving this afternoon for sunny L.A. I can’t get enough sun

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Hello Good People,

I have another new country to report. Since my visa free period was nearly up, I left South Africa today and took a two hour flight to the nation of Namibia. My only problem at customs was forgetting to fill out my arrival form. After the girl joked about it, she sent me to a table to fill out a form. Then I ended up in line with a real real serious sister. All she wanted was a stateside contact number, and to know if I’m staying the full 3 months on holiday. I said yes, She stamped my passport and said enjoy Namibia. I met with my shuttle contact who took me 30 miles to the clean developed capital city of Windhoek. This evening I had a latte on Independence Avenue and a beer at a pub on Fidel Castro Street. Life is good.

Hi Everybody,

I haven’t posted here in a few years, but I pop in for information and such. I was hoping this group might be able to provide some insight in to my current situation.

Here is the background. I was convicted of possession of CP in 1998 on the Federal Level, and had a concurrent sentence state sentence in NJ that involved a minor. I got out of prison in July of 1999, and served 3 years of Probation on the Federal level. I had to register in NJ, I then moved to California in the mid 2000’s and had to register there. I moved to Michigan in 2021, where I do not have to register. I also do not have to register on the Federal Level. I also have never been listed on any Megan’s Law Websites.

Prior to 2017, I had traveled to Taiwan, HK, Thailand, Korea and Japan with no issues. In 2018, I was prevented from boarding a flight to Taiwan based upon my history. In January of 2020, my husband and I went to Spain. We were detained briefly on the jetway by immigration officers but allowed to enter.

I also renewed my Passport last year and did not receive that special notification on the back.

We did not travel internationally over the past few years for obvious reasons. In November we booked a trip to the UK. (I had totally forgotten that the UK has stringent regulations). We went to the UK in January and I am happy to share that I got into the UK with no issues and no secondary screening or extra questions upon arrival. Upon returning to the USA, I also was not subjected to the normal secondary screening that I had come to expect.

Last weekend we drove to Canada and I got in with no issues.

I am not exactly sure how to read this recent spate of good news. Does this mean I am now able to travel to Asia, particularly Taiwan? I would assume my Passport number and other identifying markers are still present for me? Or does the renewal of the passport and the fact that I do not have to register in Michigan, reset the playing field?

Any insight would be helpful.

Thanks,

ATC

I have travelled extensively as has a good friend of mine who is also on the Registry. Its very simple any flight from the USA the Airlines will provide a PNR Locator the U.S. law requires air carriers operating flights to, from, or through the United States to provide the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), with certain passenger reservation information, called Passenger Name Record (PNR) data. This information is transmitted to CBP prior to departure and used primarily for purposes of preventing, detecting, investigating, and prosecuting terrorist offenses and related crimes and certain other crimes that are transnational in nature. Do not fly to any country you cannot afford to be turned around. Once for example in Europe say Germany who has very strict data laws then and only then book a seperate ticket. You are out of the USA have no obligation to report. Now also be aware even if you dont do the 21 day notice like the recent person here who was denied in Thailand any info from the PNR will get Transmitted to the authorities and depending on how busy they are they will put a notice out. Also 2 Different laws allow for different notifcations. The under age charge catagory is specifically handled from what I have seen as a priority and falls under what some people here refer to as a green notice. The standard Travel notice for non underage charges seems to be at the discretion of the agency. Its a simple EMAIL that says Travel Notice and has your charges. I have seen these with FOIA requests. They in my experience are generated by the 21 day notice and info you are providing. Many are hesitant to say more as I am to avoid doors getting shut. Dont give up work within the law but utilize every crack in the system and the typical Red Tape that slows this stuff down. Use your head! I was told one time by a agent who met me if I would have come on a sunday he wasnt going to be working and they would not even had a person greet me! I still got in the Country with the usual “You know its the USA who is the reason we are here” I have come to learn NO country is 100% off limits to us it just depends how you travel and how the notices are handled.

Im located in MA I just received my new passort and it doesnt have the the identifier thing on the back I was expecting it to be there. There was no questions I can remember on the application thats asked anything about my record. I am still registered in the state, but im not on the federal site. In this state if youre a “level 2” or under and were convicted before a certain date you dont show up on the state or federal site. But still must register yearly. I do plan on taking a cruise this summer with NCL, and plan on giving the 21 day notice. I can still just use a license and birth certificate if its a closed loop cruise, but I paid over $100 for a passport I dont know if its even valid. I dont really want any issues at the terminal, maybe I should call the Feds and see what to do??? I dont want to wait until the last minute.

Did I read that there had been some problem with getting through customs in Barcelona Spain? My wife and I are traveling there this summer to take a Windstar cruise and I could fly nonstop from Chicago or I can fly to Amsterdam, Paris, Lisbon etc and then take a connecting flight from there to Barcelona. Marked passport but no 21 day notice required in Illinois.

Welp just renewed my visa. I’m good for another two years here. Need to renew my other visa in a couple weeks.

Should hopefully not be an issue since the local intelligence agency did their 3 month investigation the first time. I checked in with immigration and they said it should only take 4 days to renew.

Then next year I get to apply for Permanent Residency. Which they told me the processing would take about a month due to the long list of applications.

So far no one has even asked for an FBI background check as I haven’t lived in the US for close to 7 years now. They do ask for a local one but that hasn’t been an issue and comes back clean. (They ask for a report from the country you’ve stayed the last 5 consecutive years, if not consecutive they ask for country of nationality)

I’ve given enough hints over the years as to where I am but I would still rather not openly say it. It is one of the Muslim majority country in SEA who didn’t used to be friendly with the US but is growing more friendly with them.

OK, for anyone here who doubts Steven Whitsett’s accounts of his life or even, I say Steven is in Germany and has been for years. Yes, his case was fought and he is still there. Do the same and quit bitching you are stuck in the US. Go to Germany and talk with Steven and then shut up.

I would like to travel to Central America (El Salvador). I am registrant in Tier 3 designation and I live in California. What steps I need to take in order to travel outside the U.S. and cover all the bases so I will not have problems with the federal government or other local PD office where I live. Thank you for your time.

I have been many times but never direct and would suggest Guatemala as myself and others have had no issues although I have heard of a select few with underage charges but seems to be rare. The city and people are Wonderful and once in technically you are allowed to visit El Salvador, Honduras and Nicaragua also as part of the CA.-4 agreement. Just a note Honduras and Nicaragua last year had pre authorizations for entry due to covid. Its not that difficult I have been told and I am aware of people having no issues. El Salvador is actually dam nice and the cheapest country I think I have ever been with the exception of Nicaragua and Manila. Its Modern area is like a Miami Coconut Grove with great places to eat. Uber is very cheap like a couple bucks to go all over. Not a huge fan of Managua but do like Grenada and Leon. If you are brave you can take a bus very cheap all over these places down to the Border of Costa Rica or Into Costa. Then Its Panama and onwards. Have not been to Panama Recently but don’t expect land issues per last info. I would however caution you on giving Notifications. All these places will most likely BAN you so I suggest if you must notify I would suggest Guatemala and then make plans to go other places if you feel. Guatamla CIty is off the chain with Zona Viva (The Fun Zone) and Antigua the old town.El Salvador is so close its a quick bus ride and you will enjoy. I did many days over the years and have yet to even see a “Gang” member or guy with a Tatoo on his head. Its modern and cheap its like a little USA to me. The CA4 Stamp in my opinion is a auto entry without getting a ban directly. Guatamla doesnt seem to be as stupid as some of the other places. DO NOT FLY INTO NICARAGUA especially with a underage charge you will be banned. Also most places dont care if charge is over 10 years. Just my thoughts

I wish you the best but after what I have had to deal with in the past I would not fly direct. A half day of Travel is way worth not getting banned. Also just so you know technically if you get refused entry they can cancel you for any visits to the 4A Countries. I have not seen it actually happen but its in the law. Maybe each country has a issue with another telling them what to do because I avoided it however it sucks to be turned back. Also do not pay a dime if they deny entry. Under a Worldwide flight policy and refusal of entry is on the AIRLINE to return you back to the departing Country. This is also why I recommend Guatemala. You would have other options once in Guatamala and no big deal to be turned around. Mexico,Belize,Honduras,Costa Rica all easily by Bus. Just my opinion its no fun to be detained turned back or have to sleep on a Immigration detention room waiting for the next flight back home. I am sending you this from South America by the way 🙂

Good evening:

Looking at making travel plans to enter the Schengen through Denmark than on to Italy. Anyone have any recent experiences with any of the two countries? Thanks for your help.

It’s happened to me multiple times I have NEVER been forced to pay for a return Airline ticket when I have been denied entry. It was explained to me each time it’s standard policy for any airline to be responsible for its passengers to be returned to the originating country if entry is refused. This has happened to me on both US based Airlines and foreign ones. I will look further to see if I can locate
some specific regulation. It’s also happened to me before I learned some of the maneuvers by land travel and that also was paid by the company providing travel when I was denied.

I am no longer required to register and I just got my new passport without the mark and a passport card. My process was fill out a DS-11 form for a new passport, turned over my old marked passport, wrote a couple of sentences explaining I’m no longer required to register and am not covered by IML and included a copy of the letter I got from CA doj confirming I’m no longer required to register. Very simple. I know my Mike G only filled out the DS-11 and you can probably do that also as it worked for him.

Hello All. Good discussions on here. I am a US citizen living outside the US. Not on probation for a very long time but am listed as a lifetime registrant in the US. No issues since the conviction.
A few questions for folks to provide any feedback (is appreciated).

  1. If I avoid using US airlines, can I travel with my current country ID and US Passport without getting flagged by Angel Watch or whomever? I ask because although the country ID is valid I still must use the US Passport for now.
  2. Should I wait to become a citizen of the new country first before I travel abroad since that passport should have no connection to my US passport?
  3. Will my new passport have any connection to the US passport? I do not want to have any reason for the country ID to ever be cross-referenced with my US passport.

Hello again. I really appreciate all of the thoughtful discussion that happens here and unfortunately some of the best information is a result of negative experiences that people have. We are all here trying to learn and avoid those negative experiences. The post from Official Accountability was particularly depressing because it shows that you can have success somewhere once and then be turned away the next time you go. The Feds seem to monitor passport use everywhere and I have a few general questions as I start to consider travel possibilities again. I am dating someone in another country and at the moment she can’t come to the US and she will have to go somewhere else soon because of several factors so I will plan to try and go where she is, but she hasn’t decided on her best option yet. This is why I am making general inquiries. Please don’t suggest specific countries because other factors will determine where she will be so I won’t be able to choose. She knows about my history but doesn’t completely understand the complications that we have to deal with when traveling. For example, her sister lives in Japan and her best friend is in the Philippines and I have to keep reminding her that I can’t go there. It’s so frustrating.
Some countries require a tourist visa to enter, which requires a stamp in the passport and many of these countries require that you obtain the visa from the embassy in the US before leaving. Even if first going to Europe after giving the appropriate 21 day notice and then deciding to continue traveling to the other country from France or Germany, if I obtained the visa for (some country) before leaving the US, will the Satan Watch people be aware of this because my passport was used to obtain the visa? For example, I get a visa to country X, but I purchase an airline ticket to Germany and fly there. Then I spontaneously decide that my travels should continue to country X so I purchase an airline ticket for country X or one of it’s neighbors. Some countries require that you show a round trip ticket from the US as one of the many requirements for a visa, but I wouldn’t fly directly from the US. If I purchased a refundable ticket, then applied for and let’s assume that I got the visa, then cancelled the flight, would the Feds know about that flight and notify the destination country anyway.
It seems like if there is a country that I really want to go to then maybe I shouldn’t fly there at all because if I am refused entry due to a dreaded notice, I probably can’t ever enter that country again. The best approach may be to fly to a less desirable neighboring country from Europe and then take a bus or train into my final destination country. That way, if I was rejected I would just go back to the adjacent country. It also seems best to take regional airlines (that don’t fly to the US) from Europe to my final destination so if I am rejected the airline can’t take me back to the US. The details provided by Official Accountability regarding the Japan Airlines official who insisted that he return to the US on Japan Airlines shows that if I fly in on a small regional airline, they can only take me so far, but not back home.
Ultimately though, if I go to any country, even by bus, train, car, the Feds are probably aware of it because my passport is scanned so the next time I go there could be problems.
Oh, my conviction name is different than my current legal name and I am registered in a state, but I do not appear on any public state registries or the national registry. Also, any Google searches on my name reveal nothing. I believe that all of these factors work in my favor and may partly be responsible for my success so far. I also have an unmarked passport.
This is becoming much more stressful than I previously imagined. So many swirling thoughts, but I’ll leave it here for now. Any thoughts and insights are appreciated

Anyone have any experience flying directly from the US to Rome? I know they’re part of Schengen but I don’t always trust new places.

David. Received my marked passport back, the few sentence letter I wrote and the Ca DOJ letter. All going into the fire tonight.

Hey Everyone. So I am in my 7th year of 10 years on paper due to a case in Georgia, but live in CT. My 2 daughters live in Estonia, and are American and Estonian. Since 2017 they have been here 3x and I have been there (during probation) 5x. I have flown through Geneva, Berlin, Finland, Poland. I have also been to St John USVI and gone through US customs there. I have the stamp in my passport and have never had a problem at any of those checkpoints, I always notify SORNA and get a court order which they no longer make me appear for, they did that only once. I’m lucky that way. In 2024 ESTA goes into effect in EU so we will see how that goes, I have family there so that helps and my case is like 9 years old, and I only served 6 months in prison, the police investigator is in for life without parole, and the prosecutor is facing 6 years, so Karma can be a bitxx. (See Ahmaud Aubery Case, Glynn County Georgia, and Jackie Johnson DA. Anyway. I will say though, as many do, that while never grilled or stopped in other Schengen countries, Coming back to the US anywhere is demeaning, time consuming, and one more civil commitment, over reaching, US rule that is another example of the entire problem with the registry. But the only way I can ever see if I will get into a pace or not is to go there. I am sure one of these days I will get blocked but Ihope anyone needing to travel, can.