Restricted Group Speaks Up, Saying Sex Crime Measures Go Too Far

NY Times … A few weeks ago, more than 100 people — sex offenders, almost all of them men, along with wives, girlfriends and mothers — came from around the country to “Justice for All: A Conference to Reform Sexual Offense Laws.”

They and others have formed associations and are holding conferences like this one to argue that a wave of legal penalties and restrictions washing across the country has gone too far. They hope to convince judges, lawmakers and the public that indiscriminate laws aimed at all sex offenders are unconstitutional and ineffective. Full Article

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Susan Kang Schroeder *****. Didn’t her husband get busted last year for a DUI on Halloween? I think her husband should not be allowed to drive on Halloween. Even if it’s only “one percent” of drunks who get a dui again isn’t THAT too much? *** No name calling, please. Moderator. ***

you would think more than 100 people would come, come on folks strenth in numbers.Thank to you the 100 that did go. thank you greg scott 290 ca.

Tv appearances helps….even if its a comment to a news report
on tv or segment Ms Bellucci was on the ‘Doctors’ puts issues
to the public on fundamental rights as human beings…great publicity
on that HomeRun over orange ….Ms Bellucci crossed homeplate
doing the ‘moonwalk’….;)

Susan Kang Schroeder said she doesn’t see one percent as acceptable. Here’s one for you, when evaluated by a very reputable forensic psychologist for my case, the psychologist saaid the results of all the testing he did showed that 94% of the general public were more likely to commit a sex offense than I was. How does Ms. Schroeder intend to deal with those kind of odds?

Ms. Salerno states that “somebody was assaulted.” She ignores the fact that many registrants didn’t assault anyone! I wish people who are responsible for these articles would not allow these exaggerated, untrue remarks to be published.

We are caught in a catch 22 situation. I would love to speak out but when you have people who make it a point to torture us if possible it is really just self preservation to keep as low key as possible.

I have been honest when answering about my past when filling out apartment rental applications. I have checked the box and then in the space allocated to the “explanation” I have clearly stated the facts: happened over 15 years ago, no problems (not even a traffic ticket) since, there was no time spent in jail, there was no “victim”, etc.

All they see is the term “SEX OFFENDER” when they run the background / credit check. Rejected application. Period.

I can see those who do not have to work or who live with parents or similar situations speaking out and being vocal but for most of us speaking out only makes the situation potential worse – hence, the catch 22!

That orange crooked county has to explain to taxpayers why one percent is not
accepted and yet leave them exposed to the ninety nine percent who are the next
crime coming from……explain that occ …….if not being involved with Halloween by
your crap is right (its wrong)….then you would have every person ..every house to be
Not involved with Halloween …….close down that occ shop ….there’s NO justice there.

The registry is one big catch 22. I feel saner saying that and hearing other people saying similarly. Getting a job, developing healthy family ties, being honest with yourself and others, contributing to the welfare of others, these are acts that help us lead a good life and protect us from harm and doing harm. These are the things the registry inhibits or outright makes impossible. The healthiest thing would be to ignore it and in ignoring it, risk going to jail. Go camping in the great outdoors. Enjoy your son’s part in the school play. All without fear that you are doing wrong. Well, the options are limited, but not exhausted, although harder to find.
I think if the registry was left as it was, where someone had to go to the police dept, and have a good reason to get the information, and if anything happened to you the police would know who had the information, if you could live anywhere and do almost anything anyone else could legally do, then I wouldn’t like registering, but I wouldn’t hate it.
But the registry, drawing strength mainly on emotion and absolutism, not logic and due process, was bound to become more and more extreme — and therefore lies its demise. At some point, and it is probably different for each individual, the risk of opposing the evil will seem less than the pain of complying with it. From what I know of history, often that threshold is reached by a lot of people and all at once.

If even 1 American citizen is harmed by having their information placed on a public list that is 1 too many!

This list is used as a “hit list” by a number of wackos and / or hate groups to target and harass those placed on it. In some cases we have been physically assaulted and even killed!

If even 1% of the citizens placed on this list are put in harms way by their government then the government is in the wrong and MUST be stopped!

The families involved already effected by the registry to loss of life…need to hire a lawyer to sue big time…..the
registry incites violence, harassment, discrimination, and
further incites restrictions……sue BIG.

I think the Registry may be the most complex and difficult conundrum the people of this Country are having to face right now, and most don’t even realize it.
The removal of any basic civil rights due to a conviction creates a second class citizen. A whole new race to hate. Folks are very impatient here in the good ol’ U.S., so they’ve gotten an instant gratification policy. It’s what was sold to them by all those very influential lobbyists/Lawmakers. The real answer, which I believe does exist,(can we say PREVENTION people?), is clouded by the immediate remedy, which is punishment, and includes unspoken justified vigilantism. (I was found on the registry and attacked in my own back yard.)
No American should ever stop another American Citizen, regardless of their wrongdoings, in questioning the validity of a policy. Once that right is removed from one Citizen, it can, and most assuredly will, be removed from all. This Registry has created a second class American, which conflicts directly with our “All Men Are Created Equal” doctrine. To take away a citizens’ right for their “Pursuit of Happiness”, well,I think that decision is pretty far above the pay grade of anyone representing the people here.