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California passes ‘yes-means-yes’ campus sexual assault bill

Californian lawmakers passed a law on Thursday requiring universities to adopt “affirmative consent” language in their definitions of consensual sex, part of a nationwide drive to curb sexual assault on U.S. campuses. Full Article

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  1. Eric Knight

    I wonder if this is retroactive. How many cases can be brought forth for “incidents” in the past 10 years or so?

    And keep in mind, such cases would be considered crimes of force, which would automatically qualify for registrable offenses that trigger Internet inclusion.

    Theoretically, we can see 20,000 new registrants added to the Internet shortly.

    • j

      The situation that ultimately triggered this action is typical of the state of the law and its chaotic and arbitrary definitions and implementations – and in this case gross and nefarious deficiencies.

      One one hand you are beating the bushes to flush out and expose law abiding former offenders whose cases were closed decades ago, meanwhile ignoring serious crimes with real victims that were seemingly enabled under the safety and impunity of an administrative disciplinary panel.

      This travesty represents the most egregious interpretation of “slipped through the cracks”. This eight hundred pound gorilla thrived for decades under the protection of frat hazing traditions and social bullying protocol, as hundreds – if not thousands – of victims were served up with impunity for perpetrators within this “system.”

      What is equally disturbing is the state campuses are policed by officers who are equal in authority to any sworn peace officer agency in the state. Why in hell didn’t they follow state law when it comes to justice for these victims? That should be one of many questions asked in any inquest or investigation of this matter.

      In all this time this issue was never about the campus police seeking justice or to protect victims from the persons most likely to violate them – and get away with it. Had any single le officer (ever – since the beginning of time), went public with this or set a precedent for turning it over to the state police or AG, this could have been avoided or stopped decades ago. And to add extreme insult to injury – this practice goes back as far back as anyone can seem to remember under the auspices and protections of this nearly surreal situation.

      For the victims, it sounds like a nightmare they could never hope of waking up from.

      The statement made to the public, and to the thousands of victims of abuse enabled by such a gross absence of justice, is how arbitrary and inefficient the current system is in recognizing and preventing real crimes as actually occur. A double standard if there ever was one.

      Thank goodness for the victims that they are now rescued from this bureaucratic blunder and oversight – twenty years after the current law was widened and effected to “prevent” abuse.

      The victims are owed a serious apology from any and every college employee who never called an outside CA le agency to obtain justice for them. They are due many dollars in compensation. The citizens of the state are also owed an apology. The victims are also owed due process and counseling. Maybe a class action lawsuit by the victims to the very wealthy CA board of regents would send an appropriate message.

      If there was a very good reason to take back some of those horrendous sums of money personally hoarded by the board of regents making millions of dollars off the backs of taxpayers – this is one. Sue them all personally and hold them accountable.

      You can bet that when any reforms are made to fix their error, they will figure out a way to blame all registrants. This will include retroactive punishment for victims of the registry that had nothing in the world to do with this mockery of law and failure to provide protection of students.

      With any hope, student indoctrination should state that this policy is a result of real crimes that will be acknowledged as such and treated according to the law – not a slap on the wrist and a notch on the bedpost.

      Respect for other should start with the example set by the administration. Too bad the administration did not respect the victims all these years – they might have been able to say they led by example – but they lost that chance it seems…

  2. Q

    Every day I think I’m going to wake up to the sane world I was born into; and this Alice in ya gotta wonder about some people land nightmare will be over and things will be normal again. I’m still waiting.

  3. td777

    This is one of the most ridiculous bills I’ve ever seen get passed! Do they really think college students will, in the heat of the moment, take the time to get a verbal yes before proceeding?

    Yet another example of the state of California overreaching to exploit this group for political gain.

    • j

      The best thing for everyone is a reality check to make sure a strong message is sent that “date rape” is criminal sexual assault. If dialogue doesn’t start somewhere, it will always be put off to a later date or rely on inferences that may create victims in the absence of ground rules. We need to affirm the tenets of CARSOL that no amount of sexual abuse is tolerable.

      We must never lose site of victims as we fight to restore the constitutional rights of the victims of the registry and their families.

      The best thing that we can teach our children is that life is a game of self control.

      • td777

        While I agree that rape of any kind is unacceptable, THIS particular piece of legislation opens the door to making it far too easy to falsely accuse someone of “date rape.” That is why I said it is ridiculous!

  4. R

    If neither party states yes to sex, who gets prosecuted? Both parties? With this law, students better have an attorney write a release form that can be ready at the bedside if sex is planned. Just get it signed before the mood is over.

  5. Brubaker

    Stupid…now breach of agreement /contract to ‘yes’ can become a jackpot as a person can change their ‘yes’ as very well but the agreement /contract was ‘yes’…that breach has what do they call it collateral consequences to a very good financial settlement $$$$$$amount. …..they better have a college course on that.

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