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Orange Joins Cities Changing Sex Offender Bans

The city of Orange is set to join a growing list of cities revising bans on registered sex offenders in parks in the wake of recent state appeals court rulings. … Orange has already been served with a lawsuit, Lindsay v. City of Orange, challenging its laws banning sex offenders in parks. The suit alleges the entire ordinance must be repealed, but the city attorney is recommending only one section pertaining to parks be removed. Full Article

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Jesus H Christ!?!?! If anyone doesn’t understand why Janice referred to the city of Orange as “not too bright” at the 2014 RSOL conference in Texas just watch the video of Janice’s presentation and then read the article. I sincerely hope this lawsuit moves forward because this town still thinks the constitution doesn’t apply to them; or only the parts they choose. And now they want to remove only one part of their illegal laws pertaining to parks? I agree; they aren’t very bright at all! These Hitler wannabees don’t even wan’t registrants to be able to decorate their homes… Read more »

Well, I have to say, I register there, and I put right on my form that I go to various parks. HOWEVER, I am there for some legitimate reason or another and not standing around staring at kids. Which is what I assume they mean by “loitering” In 10 years I’ve never been bothered by OPD.

Michale:

That’s good you haven’t been bothered by the OPD. But that doesn’t change the fact that their laws are illegal and a threat to any registrant they decide to use them against.

Well, in my case, it was just a case of credit where credit was due. Orange has always treated me with courtesy as an registrant. I only had a problems with one detective in the 10years Ive registered there She would interview me over my registration form like mine was an active investigation. But that stopped when i complained to her Sargent. Otherwise, since there were no complaints or evidence to the contrary, everyone else before and after has treated me with courtesy and like that had enough work to do already without trying to conjure some more out of… Read more »

If any “prohibitions” are unconstitutional then they should not exist. The RSO that approaches little kids in a park rest room you speak of is more the exception rather the rule, and would be a rarity at that. Aside from parole or probation, presence/proximity restrictions should not exist and I, for one, am glad Janice is going after them just like she did with the Halloween signs registrants were forced to place on their residence in Orange and Simi Valley. I was borne in the city of Orange at St Josephs hospital. I went to elementary school there at Killifer… Read more »

Sorry, the registry started like that: put the really bad ones on notice and have everyone know where they are and keep an eye on them. Then it expanded and included more and more. In fact it never really included just repeat offenders. It is doomed to fail that way. You can’t give legislative bodies the power to put people back on parole. They can never, even if they were operating on pure reason, rather than hype, have all the correct information to tell just who is going to re-offend and who isn’t. Instead they are always going to lump… Read more »

“…and checking into motels where other sex offenders are staying. Violations result in a $1,000 fine and possible jail time.” And how exactly does Orange expect registered citizens to comply this unconstitutional law? Require us to ask the desk person if there are any registrants already checked in? Require motels to hang a “Vacancy for Registrants” sign, indicating that it’s a “compliant” motel? These laws are so beyond the point of being insane, it’s nearly impossible to imagine that the people who thought them up, have ANY intelligence whatsoever! How do these clowns get elected? Oh yea! By proposing these… Read more »

Paul: The only way to avoid a fine and arrest or jail time would mean any registrant wanting to check into a hotel in Orange would be compelled to ask if there was anyone staying at the hotel who is a registered sex offender. This violates the first amendment to the US constitution, which is about free speech. If the government forces you to say something; that’s not free speech. After asking the forced question the hotel probably won’t rent the registrant a room because of being a registrant. Who’s to say some cop won’t drive around the parking lot… Read more »

Remember orange county is nixon county…they don’t honor a fair trial..they can erase evidence from record..nixon tactics are par for that county..back hallway removing evidence cheats crooks.

I’ve never been arrested stopping at a motel or checking into a campground, althought there is a good chance I unwittingly violated some ordinance or other somewhere with serious consequences. I will say this: whenever I travel some where, it’s always a worrisome business pulling over to stay the night (or even to rest in the day) somewhere. These ordinances and shaming laws have done nothing but make the world a much more dangerous place for my family and me.

The Orange City Council will meet tonight starting at 6 p.m. During the meeting, the Council will consider whether to significantly revise the city’s sex offender ordinance by eliminating all presence restrictions and placing a stay of enforcement on all residency restrictions. The agenda item is 9.2. The meeting can be viewed live online tonight.

we’ll see if they are still dumbstruck or if they’ve wised up any.

Hi Janice,

First and foremost thank you for all your support and hard work. I’m currently living in South Lake Tahoe and was wondering where things stand. I found the assistant attorney’s recommendation (below)addressed to the council however, I have not seen anything official yet. Thank you again GRR

http://slt.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=6&clip_id=686&meta_id=64028

The City Council of the City of Orange voted 4 to 1 on August 12 in favor of removing all presence restrictions as well as placing a stay of enforcement on all residency restrictions. There will soon be an article added to the website which provides more details about this vote.

Wise decision!

There was a follow-up article, but now I don’t see it. what happen?

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