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WI: People living near violent sex offenders push for changes to state’s Chapter 980 law

Kristine Knickmeier, Kelly Kopecky and Tom Hergert did not know each other before last summer, but are now united in a fight to make changes to how violent sex offenders are placed under the state’s Chapter 980 law.

Knickmeier lives in Stoughton. She can see one home housing violent sex offenders out her front door. There’s another down the road.

“It does affect people and you never know the next time there’s a for sale sign, who’s moving in,” she said.  Full Article

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  1. Agamemnon

    So this person just wants all registrants put on civil commitment just because the only housing one could find is half a mile away from her? GTFO

  2. Dustin

    This makes me think that the extreme paranoia of these neighbors should make them candidates for the civil commitment they support.

  3. Worried in Wisconsin

    This has been an ongoing issue here in Wisconsin. They created the civil commitment process (Chapter 980) which allowed for eventual release, but absolutely no plans were made as to how to make that work. Once people were eligible for release everyone started running around claiming it was a crisis. After a few releases took place, the rules have become progressively more restrictive and made release more and more difficult for those for whom confinement was no longer deemed necessary.

    This doesn’t technically affect the vast majority on (non 980) sex offenders in Wisconsin, but the politicians and media are keen to lump everyone together.

  4. M C

    So do they want to commit more people for longer? Sounds expensive. Maybe bill that cost directly to the people who really want this so bad. If they have to pay for it maybe they might have a different opinion on what is and isn’t acceptable risk to the community.

  5. Tim in WI

    While a some minuscule level reasonable concern exists, most of ” this problem” falls in the minds of complainers. The national anthem ends: “……and the home of the brave.”

    On the collateral note, this all being a natural outcome from ” crying wolf” via database in the first place. Wisconsin used to know better and had law prohibiting most of it. Unauthorized department disclosure carried a fine and jail time. Network privacy molded in AT&T cases had to be overcome by the data brokers for the surveillance economy to flurish! The Doe cases03 IMO were about ” rent seeking” carving out broad jurisdictional limits with respect to gov use of private data collected naturally by the infrastructure underpinned by interconnected databases.

  6. Bill

    Here’s a radical idea:

    Instead doing all this law research, rallying the community, and pester lawmakers to make expensive frivolous policies, why not just talk to the Registrant, get to know him as a human being, and realize it’s unneccessary?

    I know, I know, that’s asking too much…

    • w

      Society is inhumane, inconsiderate, and inconsequential. The society of the green lawns and lily white approns dictates that any “disturbance” in their perfect world is a sudden and immediate danger.

      Then they’d complain that society is stiffling. HOA’s, community meetings, nextdoor, social media, Netflix. It’s all about the constant assault on how you think. Submit to their thinking, and forfeit your independent thought.

    • Facts should matter

      “why not just talk to the Registrant, get to know him as a human being, and realize it’s unneccessary?”

      Because WE should NOT have to PROVE ourselves to ANYONE.

      When you have to explain yourself, you inadvertently normalize the entire mission statement of the registry.

      • Will Allen

        I’m not sure that’s exactly what @Bill was fully meaning, but I agree with you completely.

        Most people have no right or need to know about my past, including all of my neighbors. It’s none of their business. So I’m not going to worry about discussing it with anyone. I never “disclose” it to anyone. None of their business. I will disclose to a person that I respect or care about if I think it might ultimately have some kind of impact on them in the future. Other than that, I don’t care what happens to any Registry Supporter/Terrorist (RS/T).

        I’ll talk about it with people who hate big government. I certainly would never worry about placating anyone’s “fears” or concerns about me. I hope they are worried. I hope they live in fear. RS/Ts deserve that and more.

        Don’t legitimize the Registries by doing anything that makes them appear to be legitimate. I’ve had plenty of people, including law enforcement criminals, ask me, “Are you a $EX offender?” I usually just say, “Nope, are you?”

        Message to RS/Ts: Sic semper tyrannis. Here’s a famous quote for you – “You think you can be ruthless? Let’s see how you like it when the fighting is brought to you.”

      • Bill

        @Facts Should Matter

        The meaning behind my statement was philosophically addressed to the people blinded by their fear of the unknown. Kinda like the plot of the movie, “The Sandlot,” where the boys in the story act around “the Beast” that lives in the local junkyard.

        In the movie the boys come up with all kinds of scary stories about this Beast which results with them getting into all kinds of ridiculous hijinks only to realize that their fears were unfounded. They realize this Beast was just a Mastiff that they got to know and the owner of that dog was a former baseball player who turned out to a be a decent human being not some terrible villain.

        One of the lessons in this movie deals with fear of the unknown and that confronting that fear by getting to know these “monsters” they realize that the fear was unfounded.

        What I’m trying to say is how great it would be for people to confront their own unfounded fears instead of running around like headless chickens saying the sky is falling…

        By no means did I say that we should explain ourselves to anybody or to anyone because that is OUR business. But it helps at this stage to have some dialogue in order for these politicians to realize that what they are doing is for nothing….

        And in order to do that we have to speak for ourselves and not let others do it for us.

  7. NorthEastPENN

    A close friend of mine lives in the next town over. I am on the Penn registry and he is not. He lives in public housing. A few months ago he told me that he heard some talking outside his front door so he opened it. There he found a cop handling out flyers to the residents of a SVP who will be moving in a block over (not in the housing project). He was getting the residents all fired up by telling them that this “pervert” is very dangerous and he is on the Penn Megan’s “Pedophile” List (yes, he actually used the word pedophile). He told the neighbors that this guy is a very dangerous sexual predator and that they should call and demand that he not be aloud to live near them.

    So when you have law enforcement spreading junk like this how do you expect the citizens of the community to believe anything else but what a police officer tells them – I mean really, don’t you know that the police NEVER lie!!??

    • Bill

      @NorthEastPENN

      Not only has police lied to the public but have secretly harbored their own perversions as well! News are also filled with cops caught in the act!

      As the saying goes, “Takes one to know one”….

  8. Facts should matter

    Karens are the biggest NIMBY whiners!

    “They can look in my yard.”

    So what? Get a f’ing life!

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