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CA: Judge Delays Decision on Sexually Violent Predator’s Release Into East County

A judge has delayed a decision to release a man convicted of sexually assaulting several children in the 1980s back into the San Diego community during a hearing Friday morning. Full Article

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  1. AERO1

    Daam!! seven children I don’t blame the community and he’s been locked up for 30 years so you know hes probably institutionalize and being labeled a sexually violent Predator he’s not going to be able to get a job he’s not going to be able to find housing once the realization and frustration sets in that there’s no place for him in society he’ll probably rather go back to prison where its was less stressful less worries less harassment less shaming and then he’ll end up re-offending or become non-compliant and in some sick and twisted way that’s his revenge on society its sad but to true..

    • James

      I don’t want to judge this person for his past mistakes even though I’m very tempted to because what if the victims were one of my family or friends? Society is scared of him and rightly so, so I hope the judge comes up with a solution heavily focusing on accountability and treatment, in collaboration with all community stakeholders including parole, treatment providers, police, faith-based organizations, employment and housing, etc. that addresses the community’s concerns, and yet upholds the Constitution. It won’t be easy. I sincerely hope he thinks he has a problem and that he needs help so that there isn’t another victim.

      • Notorious D.I.K. / Kennerly

        This is a guy who served the entirety of his prison sentence having been convicted back in the 1980s. Since his release from prison, he has been a “civilly committed” “sexually violent predator” (do we realize/remember what that means?) using an Orwellian process to lock people up after they served their sentence. Now, those who hate him argue against his release from this program onto another program that will allow him outside of the razorwire enveloped hosprison where he has been languishing but which will continue to exquisitely monitor him and tightly regulate his life which will, even so, still not be much of a life. All of this beyond his prison sentence is said to be “regulatory” and not punishment yet those who hate him somehow are considered to be rightly influential in this process making it appear to be more of a presentencing victim impact statement than a clinical evaluation of risk made by professional clinicians.

        James, none of what you described as a reasonable advancement through the system is congruent with the Constitution; that was shattered the moment he was civilly committed and now you are arguing that this draconian process be continued outside of CSH.

        • Bill

          We are here with people who are not helping the cause… destroy the registry..well, there are people who want to bring up all the negatives on issues with civil commitment and it is wrong, he did his time and I’m his friend and will be my bothers keeper not these sqaaawkers on here that present themselves as up right and concerned !!
          Just get lost from this site if that’s all you have to add !!!
          You are portraying yourselves as one of the good guys and you are against these men !!! GO AWAY !!!
          SO WE THE REAL BROTHERLY LOVE CAN CHANGE LIVES AND HEARTS, YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT HE CAN ACCOMPLISH AND YOU DON’T SUPPORT HIM !!! I DO, so stop pretending to be right minded and leave him alone and let others help him and give him his life back!
          GOOOOD BYEE !!

        • RegistrantNotAnOffender

          My state has civil commitment and while I don’t love the idea there are offenders who admittedly cannot control their urge to reoffend. For that reason I see some value in civil commitment. My therapist theory is the public doesn’t need to fear sex offenders, the people who would hurt them are civilly committed..

          The civil commitment system has its issues. They don’t let people out for trivial reasons and I find that problematic.

          On the one hand this guy may or may not be my brother. You all are my brothers and sisters because you offended, don’t do it anymore and just want a normal life.

          People who do time then reoffend feed the narrative we don’t change and are a risk to reoffend. This is coming with someone with two victims on separate cause numbers. But once I was convicted I stopped because I owe it not only to myself and family but every other offender out there.

  2. Bill

    THE ISSUE IS NOT WHETHER HE WILL DO IT AGAIN, BUT WHY AND IF HE DOES BAD THEN WE PUNISH AND ALL THE OTHER EXTRA…LIKE REGISTRY…CIVIL COMMITMENT…IS ILLEGAL WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT!
    AND THESE GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATIONS ARE DOING MORE HARM….SO STOP BEING AN IDIOT AND SUPPORTING THEM AND STOP THE, MIGHT, COULD, OR SKEWED STATISTICS SAY THIS O THAT CRAP…ETC…HELLO !! IS THIS MAKING YOU FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE…WELL GOOD !!! YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO HURT OTHERS UBDER THE PRETENSE …WHAT IF AND WHEN DO YOU THINK AND LOOK WHAT HE DID BACK THEN !!! HELLO !!!

  3. Bob

    So, he offended in the community and was sent to prision. What do victims have left to say about it… this is why cases of criminal law are person vs state not person vs victim…. In addition, what were the svps violated for? Did commit another crime or fall prey to the regulatory scheme…

  4. mike r

    These MF%#$%#%^ man,
    “James is currently in a state prison hospital, but the judge said he has met the conditions for release. James’ release will now be decided after hearing testimony from victims and members of the community, according to the Judge.”
    F%$$# the victims and the community members. I am so fed up with this shit I do not even care if the dude rapes a million kids and women or men or dogs or pigs or wtfever.
    “James is currently in a state prison hospital, but the judge said he has met the conditions for release.”
    END OF STORY….
    You know I now have a grand daughter and if it happened to her I understand I may see things differently, but as of right now, he did his time and met the requirements for release.
    This trial by communities and victims is BS BS BS….

  5. James

    @RegistrantNotAnOffender

    Well said. The others who have a problem with my comment, you are more than entitled to your opinions but your comments are really off-putting and insulting. I’ve read your past posts and you know what I do? I just gloss over them. You should do so with mine as it’s an utter waste of my time to read yours.

    I served my time, repented from my sinful ways and then reinvented myself by the grace of God, got married, found a career, and even started my own business despite this ignoble label that I carry. Do I regret being on the SOR? Everyday. Do I want to get off the SOR? Everyday. Do I have time to be bitter about being on the SOR and lashing out on others who try to understand both sides of the SOR argument? No. I do what I can to help Janice and team fight for us like monthly donations, responding to calls for action, e.g., calling and writing letters to state reps, etc. So please reserve your judgment on others until you actually know what you’re talking about you hypocrites. Thanks.

    • Notorious D.I.K.

      James, both you and @RegistrantNotAnOffender seem to be under the impression that civil commitment is being fairly and correctly imposed upon the “worst-of-the-worst.” This is far from the case. While the state will always set forth examples of such individuals as a means to legitimize their extra-legal mechanism to lock people up past their prison release dates, there are many more who pose no more risk than you or me.

      So, go ahead and congratulate yourselves that you have achieved a balanced and pragmatic view. This is precisely the means by which we are divided and serves more to assure some in our community that they are above others. This appetite for social advancement cannot be overestimated.

      Will Allen, for all of your bravado you manage to take a deeply illiberal position that is inimical to the Constitution.

      • RegistrantNotAnOffender

        @notorious.

        I specifically mentioned in my post that civil commitment has its issues. But it has it’s value in society. Again there are sex offenders who admittedly will commit offenses again and again. No I don’t want these people in society.

        A registrant commits a crime and moves on with their life. A sex offender continues to reoffend even after being adjudicated.

        If you are going to act on your impulses again you are doing a huge disservice to the people fighting this injustice. You are feeding the narrative of being a predator. Im not going to enable or encourage anyone who decides to reoffend.

        • Bo

          If they commit a crime again, then they get locked up again. No civil commitment needed. How is that so hard to understand?

    • AJ

      @James:
      “I’ve read your past posts and you know what I do? I just gloss over them. You should do so with mine as it’s an utter waste of my time to read yours.”
      —–
      Though not applicable to me for this particular person, I’m so glad I’m not alone in this method. Once sufficiently winnowed, I find it makes for a more enjoyable visit.

  6. Dustin

    Since there’s no way to do it by law, the judge needs a way to do it by politics. Guessing it’s an election year.

    Bill is absolutely right – the man did his time (well over, depending on whether or not he was given due process prior to being civilly committed), he should be released. Most states have a procedure to involuntarily commit someone. Was it followed here? Or was he committed solely because of his original offense?

    And why should victims and communities have a say in whether or not the man gets released? Are all of them mental health professionals? Guessing not.

    Victims had their say in court and get their pound of flesh upon conviction. No one deserves to be a victim of ANY crime, sexual or otherwise. But one’s victimhood does NOT entitle them to a lifetime of coddling. Yes, some victims are scarred for life, but life is all about getting scars and learning to get past them (and the overwhelming majority of them do, despite popular opinion). There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING therapeutic about encouraging and catering to a victim’s whims regarding their abusers.

    For all others, they don’t have a right to confront, stalk, or harass those that make them uncomfortable. If you think your neighborhood is unsafe when certain people move in, then move yourselves. No one should be denied a place to reside merely because people would rather exercise a made-up right to know everyone’s business than their right to relocate.

    • Will Allen

      I think civil commitment is legitimate but I’m also confident that it is completly abused by the criminal regimes. They obviously can’t be trusted. I don’t know how that can be solved.

      Having said that, the “community” already has plenty of people living around them that are just like this guy. Of course they have no right to know anything about this guy. Unless I have a right to know about all the gang bangers being released around me. It is easy to protect your children from the typical grooming child molester. Not so much from violent people.

  7. R M

    Here’s the bottom line… what is in his sentence and what is in the law is what MUST be done. Otherwise the guy has legal action… and yeah, people (victims, opponents, etc) or the judge (under re-election pressure) hava a say so but it NOT in accordance with the law.

    Break a law, serve the punishment. Break the law again, serve the punishment….. there is no deviation without consequences (lawsuits on the people, victims, courts, town, etc.).

  8. mike r

    Yeah letting the MOB determine who gets released, or basically what punishments the MOB wants is BS. We have seen what the MOB has done to people in the past. How about chocking him up in town square and stone and burn him, or parade him up to the hanging noose while the entire community throws a party in celebration and all gather around with their families and children to watch and cheer it on. Hell burn him at the stake, off with his head, into the dungeons of hell with him.
    The MOB having anything to say about it or the fact that he is even having a hearing or platform for the MOB to spew their evil wrath is BS. The entire deal is BS.
    And yes, law suits are the only thing any of these people understand. Money and hate is the MOB.

  9. steve

    I’d like to know how many of these svp’a released into the east county have committed a new crime? Zero.

    • bob

      Ill BET ZERO because next to no one lives in jacumba boulevard desert hot springs etc….

      Dianne jacobs=ignoramus ! Lets see place the guy in a city in which the population is maybe 100 or 200 (guess) or place him in San diego proper… then what ? Maybe Dianne would like to pay for a flight to the moon and place him there ? would that make her happy ?… prolly not

  10. RegistrantNotAnOffender

    @Bo the problem with releasing people who can’t control their urges is it feeds the reoffense narrative. Civil commitment is not exclusive to sex offenders it is also used for the mentally ill. If people aren’t well or feel they will reoffend it’s okay to put them in a rehabilitative environment with the hope they can one day rejoin society. Do some places abuse that? Yes but that should be fought separately.

    Our state has a successful model where level 3 offenders can live without restrictions because if they were a true threat they would be in CC

    • Bo

      “Releasing people who cant control their urges”, presumed guilty of a future un committed crime. Which is unconstitutional, let them commit it, then life in prison. Problem solved.

    • Notorious D.I.K. / Kennerly

      “Civil commitment is not exclusive to sex offenders it is also used for the mentally ill. ”

      Sounds good but that’s not how it works. They are two completely different systems. Sex offenders can be committed extremely easily and, in California, for life, without any recourse or future opportunities to regain their freedom whereas the dangerously mentally ill – often literally bouncing off of the walls and unless serving a not guilty by reason of insanity commitment – have many more opportunities, and are far more likely, to get out. Knowing whether or not someone will “re-offend” has proven to be quite impossible. It’s time we should acknowledge that and stop pretending that the process of sex offender civil commitment is not a massive travesty.

      • FairLaws

        As someone who was civilly committed for a time. There is value for some. I was with people who had three or four separate offenses. Often not serious enough for life in prison but usually admitted pedophiles who would do odd things for access to victims. Some of them didnt believe they could not reoffend. I see the public safety aspect but it is frustrating to be there when you are not a real threat. I think civil commitment is better than life in prison for someone who doesnt feel they can live in th community.

        • mike r

          Yeah I seem to recall someone on here stating that if not for the registry they would have re-offended…. Hmmm, who was that???? Those are the people that CC was meant for, so we would not need a registry if everything was proper, but we all not nothing in this has logic anymore, at least the only logic is for $$$$ in the politician’s and their family’s and friend’s hands in some way.

        • Jun

          Civil commitment is a pseudoscience on the brink of being affirmatively unconstitutional. Regardless of public opinion. The fact remains: Pedophilia is illegal. Rape is illegal. Sex crimes have legal repercussions. But to have government overreach is not acceptable, regardless of any seemingly noble excuse. It’s what makes America unique to have second chances. To allow this blatant overreach under pseudoscientific means is dishonest (“fake news”). An ex-offender, ex-convict is just that. Now, for any ex-convict that reoffends, well, there are repercussions for that in place already. Any form of trying to maximize penalties have gone over the boundaries of civil rights of EX-offenders. They needed to have sentenced a potentially dangerous person for life. Too late. Civil commitment is the systems’s error. Can’t go back and try to fix an old sentence without being in violation of the American Constitution.

      • RegistrantNotAnOffender

        That’s not true. They can’t civilly commit someone just because they are a sex offender. When Scotus affirmed civil commitment there did so with the requirement said offender needed a diagnosed mental abnormality.

        • Bo

          Well… I encourage people to read the writings or speak to a person civilly committed.

          Often determinations are made with an hour long interview with items from the DSM applied incorrectly. To offer testimony capable of being included in a proceeding one would need to hire their own psyd and evaluations for many thousands of dollars. Likely not possible for those having been incarcerated for decades.

          Know for someone not a sex offender, I have personally seen people steam rolled by the system. Information in a police report held more sway than testimony from people familiar with the person. Not to mention this person could clearly take care of themselves with an IQ of over 130. But the person pushing the case, a family member who was financially supporting this person, removed all support and then pushed civil commitment.

        • Notorious D.I.K. / Kennerly

          That’s what the state evaluators get paid for, to swear that there is a mental disorder on the basis of nothing more than a conviction. This is where having some deep knowledge of the system comes in handy when rejecting the specious claims of the state.

  11. mike r

    Yeah it is BS. Someone does the crime and does the time be done with it. CC is for mentally ill, if they consider anyone that is likely to re-offend then that means the habitual car-jacker, bank robber, jay walker, should all be in CC hearings. CC was meant for those that are in imminent danger from themselves or are an imminent danger to the public, or mentally disabled to the point they cannot take care of themselves in their basic needs. That used to be the standard. Here is a good article on it.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3392176/

  12. RegistrantNotAnOffender

    Pedophilia is not illegal, acting out on it is. It is not an action but a mental disorder. Most of us here including those with offenses against minors are not pedophiles.

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