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Sex Offender Board Calls For Registry Overhaul

California is one of four states that require lifetime registration of all sex offenders. The current registry holds close to 100,000, a number the California Sex Offender Management Board says is too large to handle. The board is recommending an overhaul of the system that would change the criteria for lifetime registration, taking into account the severity of the crime and the likely risk posed by the offender. Radio Program

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Another “common sense” article. We are supposed to be so advanced, so why is it taking so long to catch up and realize how unconstitutional and wrong the SO registry is. Like many comments on this article mentioned, if they need registries, there should be registries for car jackers, burglars, domestic violence offender, etc etc. That would really make a huge mess and will most likely not happen. There should be justice for all, and no registry or a registry for all. Innocent family members are stripped of their constitutional rights since they can’t live with their loved ones the… Read more »

Someone mentioned that there was a possibility that politicians were waiting for the board to act since their positions are not threatened by voter backlash. If those in Sacramento had pushed this forward, it could mean losing the next election. As we all know politicians work for their own careers; not for the will of the people. My private therapist, who also works in sex offender treatment programs, is very optimistic that the state will be moving toward a tiered registry before the end of the decade. Reading these recent articles and the radio program above is giving me a… Read more »

Someone who cares: I think one of the biggest hindrances to a tiered registry ever going anywhere is the fact that the public is allowed access to offender information and in many cases people like Marc Klaas are viewed as experts on the issue; which they are not. I was hit head on by a drunk driver and almost killed, and I was offended, upset and a host of other emotions, but that doesn’t make me an expert on drunk drivers and the people that drink too much and commit these crimes. Until these sensationalist victim’s group advocates and self… Read more »

As long as people like Marc Klaas are allowed to have a say on this issue and be treated as some sort of an expert, an unbiased dialog can never happen, be it on the radio or in the halls of power. I think Marc Klaas and his supporters, like the caller La Donna would do well to read the constitution and the bill of rights, and then read it again. The caller from Placerville hit the nail on the head when she called Megan’s law a lie and stated that it did nothing to protect her child from the… Read more »

I would LOVE the opportunity to debate Mark Klaas. I’d like to ask him: what if his daughter’s perpetrator was on the public registry? Then what? What would it have done? Nothing! This guy was a predator who could only be stopped by bars and barbed wire! Just like with Jessica Lunsford…her perpetrator was on the public registry. It did nothing! I’ll tell you what the over-bloated registry did do for Jaycee Dugard…it facilitated her torture and abuse for years because authorities were too swamped keeping track of teenage lovers and party streakers to invest the time needed to thoroughly… Read more »

20 million. Maybe it should have been more. Just what is the incentive to prevent the most horrendous crimes? No one wants to see such horrible crimes happen, but after they do I wonder why law enforcement isn’t saying what you say: hey let’s stop applying our resources on those we hate and start applying it on those who we have reason to fear. Instead, after the high profile crime, the laws become more expansive and more money expended on what doesn’t work. It’s a vicious cycle that may grow the police force, but does it extend public safety? I… Read more »

Tim: I think $20 million was way too much because it never should have happened in the first place. Each and every time a registrant gets arrested for committing a new sex crime is another documented case that proves the registry is nothing more than trash legislation. Worthless, ineffective and a waste of time and money. And the numbers prove that the vast majority of registrants are law abiding citizens that made a mistake. Who among those that hate us is perfect and without blemish? I think the ones the public should fear are those that believe the lie and… Read more »

G4Change: I’d love to see you debate Marc Klaas too. I’ll bet after you asked him what the registry would have done to save his daughter if the perpetrator was a registrant he would probably say if the perpetrator was a registrant his daughter wouldn’t have been killed. At which point you would bring up Jaycee Dugard and point out how much and for how long the registry utterly failed her in every way, shape and form imaginable; not to mention the $20 million that went down the toilet at the taxpayers expense along with the rest of the $$$$… Read more »

Hell what about mark gardner another one who slipped thru the cracks because they are watching the wrong people.

steve:

I looked for information on that case and I found nothing. What I did find was allot of people named mark gardner on various state registries; all by some outfit called homefacts. They probably need to be sued now some precedents have been set in the offendex/soar archives case.

Hey. Wasn’t he on parole and wearing a GPS? How long did it take to connect the dots?Time enough for him to make it a double murder.

Tim:

BINGO!!! It was the mention of GPS that did the trick. This guy was from your neck of the woods and did his deeds in that area too. According to this article this case played a part in getting Megan’s law passed. He was on GPS until 2 weeks prior to the murders.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Albert_Gardner

Yo9u mean Chelsea’s Law…

In the public perception, these murders loom grossly large on the landscape, and understandably so for the survivors who are suffering through the loss. Nonethelees, the flip side of that reality is that there has been thousands if not millions of acts of kindness, love and lifesaving that has gone on in the same time frame. One good thing to have been in a group therapy is to have witnessed the redemption of many fellow ex offenders.

Steve:

Uhhhh; Chelsea’s law. There’s so friggin many of them it’s hard to keep track. I stand corrected.

The guys name was John Gardner III, just looked it up.

Get all the streakers, public urinators , kids who have sex with their girl friends off the registry now. I don’t believe these acts should even be crimes. Only shows how prudish this so called modern culture has become.Then we can discuss what is truly a crime and who truly needs reparations and who truly needs punishment, therapy, what program is appropriate to deal with it, without having all this frack taking up valuable time.

Tim:

I think if we got rid of the morality police it would go far in solving many of this society’s problems.

Poway has its share of sick murders. This, the earlier Westerfield murder of the 5 year old, and back in the 70’s the cop who pulled over and murdered Karen Knott. All within a few miles. I suppose you can pick any area of the country and find they have had their share of sickos.

Tim:

Wow! San Diego County paid Westerfield’s attorneys $304,500 to defend him.
http://legacy.utsandiego.com/news/metro/danielle/

The cop’s tab was $756,000!!!!!
http://legacy.utsandiego.com/news/metro/danielle/20030222-9999_2m22wester.html

I thought the registry and all the other laws was supposed to make cases like this easier and cost effective. Oh!, that’s right! He wasn’t a registrant!

Craig Peyer of the CHP murdered Cara Knott in 1986, was convicted and sentenced to 25 ti life. He has been denied parole in 2004, 2008 and 2012. he won’t be eligible for parole again until 2027, and I’ll bet he wont have to register as a sex offender if he ever get’s out.

The registry should be publicly accessed only through a local sheriff’s department by the requester giving their ID information. The only time someone is on the registry is while they are on probation or parole. Why is there probation and parole? To ensure for a period of time (usually 3 to 5 years) that the ex-convict is safe for society and abides by strict requirements of accountability and therapy. After such time they should be reconstituted back into society. To do otherwise is simply wrong. As it stands with the sex offender registry these people can never be truly reconstituted… Read more »

Hmm. Punishment for a specified amount of time based on the crime and evidence surrounding it, reasonable restitution, then a transition period so that the ex offender can reintegrate into society, and regain citizenship, that sounds like the Bill of Rights.

There is an unintended consequence to having an extremely punitive sex offender registry and that is most offenses are committed by family members and those know to the victim. By the registry being punitive against families and not just to individuals doesn’t it seem logical that victims will not report abuses in order to protect their family as a whole? So, the punitive nature of the registry by default becomes it’s own worst enemy.

Under these particular conditions and with the law’s disregard for specific sentencing guidelines which mitigate risk and articulate specific guidelines for family reintegration, the family needlessly and repeatedly gets punished as a whole while still trying to heal from the initial damage. The victim can easily be identified by this information as well, which is an unintended circumstance of the law. Purveyors of these laws and others vigilante groups have implicitly denied the constitutional rights of innocent family members while misusing this information. The family must manage the incursion of this law and the disdain and negative effects they encounter… Read more »

Well said ‘j’!

Hey as long as this is being discussed it’s a very good sign.

Steve:

I’ll bet we in this thread are talking about it more than any lawmakers ever will.

Hey everyone this Guy was Burned in court By a Judge on a property issue but He is ON this Judge Like Glue Check This OUT!!!http://beforeitsnews.com/blogging-citizen-journalism/2014/04/facebook-this-are-rape-case-trials-totally-rigged-the-conspiracy-missed-by-anonymous-2452770.html?currentSplittedPage=0

Bruce:

If it is indeed true, I’m not surprised at all. Just look at the supreme court; Sh**T does run downhill, after all.

Someone commented in the full article. “It was a myth that people the pee in public are not likely put on the list unless a child saw them. I was. Two adults saw me. I have been labeled Sex Offender for life. In my county 2 counts of sexual offences is needed to prosecute and place on the list. They got two nearby adults to come forward and agree they saw me. Based on that they had me write apology letters. I felt really bad and embarrassed so I did it. Then, I was told later they would be submitted… Read more »

California registered sex offender is a joke. They take individuals whom have never been in trouble or even committed a sex offense and throw them on there. My husband of 20 years had a very jealous ex-wife that went above and beyond to destroy our lives. This was roughly 20 years ago. We have not been able to rent in some places, he has lost jobs, communities look at us like we are sick people. I hate our system for this. He had terrible representation and was not aware of what he was signing in fine print. We took all… Read more »

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